Part of the reason why I didn’t completely recommend Article Ranks in the past is that:
#1- I didn’t understand it’s system
#2- I wanted to test it for 2-3 months
#3- I wanted to see how many links are sticking
#4- I wanted to talk to Musa, the owner of AR first, to clear up my questions
And I usually try to talk to the program owners on Skype or voice call before I write about something, so here’s some information about Article Ranks that might help you (and me) understand their service better. A lot of the following information is base don the hour or so conversation I had with him on Skype.
AR is a credits-based system, where having credits allows you to do certain things, like post articles, or post articles to more than one category at a time for wider distribution. This whole credits thing is the part that confused me the most, so here’s the FAQs that AR should have on their site:
If I pay for monthly submissions membership, do I have to pay to submit articles after I join?
No, monthly members get unlimited submissions, meaning that they can submit as much as they want, but if you want to get more out of it by submitting your articles to more than one category, like a broader category that is susceptible to getting wider syndication…then you’ll have to use up some credits to do so. So, a paid monthly member who wants more of a boost and wider syndication with their article ranks submission should order some credits, but there’s no need to always pay for credits when you can earn them by adding a site to their system.
What if I don’t want unlimited submissions, and just want to earn credits in order to post a few articles and get a few links
If you don’t need to blast the internet, or AR’s network with dozens of articles for massive link building then you can:
- pay as you go and pay for submissions,or…
- earn credits by adding a site to their system (if you add a site with PR you get more credits, the higher the Page Rank of the site the more credits or crediT you get).
- earn credits for adding some social site logins to their system,too
Suffice to say, this could be a real economical way for people who don’t need a lot of backlinks to basically pay a one-time fee (buy a domain with Page Rank), then add it to the system to earn credits).
What are the Article Ranks Page Rank and network size numbers?
Mostly Pr1-3 sites, smattering of higher PR sites,obviously less sites with higher Page Rank, and many of these sites will get their PR boosted with next PR updates anyway, so even adding a PR 0 site would have some long term value some day.
The AR network is over 3k sites, not sure about the IPs diversity but the network is still growing a quite a good clip. The vast majority of the sites in the network are “donor sites”, which caused me some concern because SEO LV, My Article Network, and1waylinks are all donor-site run networks and they’re all on my not recommended list. But with Article Ranks, the donor sites are either sites with Page Rank or sites about to get Page Rank, therefore of some quality, and more importantly, most importantly in fact… members who add donor sites to the system can specify how many submissions they’d like to receive and/or post daily.
This sort of puts the onus on the owners of the donor sites… to ensure their sites don’t become outbound link farms,to maintain their sites’ PR so to continue getting free submissions credits based on the Article Rank’s algorithm for PR value of donor site equaling their submissions credits potential.
What’s the whole article submissions process like, how many links can be expected,and what’s the indexing rate like?
Now that you know how the whole pricing system and credits earnings system works,is AR effective and what kind of damage can you do with it?
The Best Spinner has an export function (from what I’m told) that is compatible with Article Ranks submissions area but AR has its own spinner too. However, your submission acceptance rates and syndication levels (how many sites will accept this content?) is still dependent on the quality of your article, spun or not, manually spun articles get accepted more often,and how many backlinks you get via syndication is still based on the number of categories/sites where your article has a good chance of getting “hosted-and-posted”.
So if you write good spun articles in the technology, internet, health, and cars niches, then you’ll definitely get a good number of backlinks, like 125 per article written.
Indexing: Musa told me that their network gets about 50-70% indexing rate on articles submitted within first few weeks, with these numbers improving over time. Also, its good to note that they’ve added a feature that should increase indexing rates to an even higher level with their social boosting program, which works like this:
Give them your login information for X# of social accounts you have and they’ll do the posting and bookmarking for you. Not sure if they use all members’ profiles and accounts to social boost just your own articles or entire paid members base’s articles (that’d be best to avoid obvious self-promotion bans) but either way, it will still add even more value and indexing power to their service, that’s for sure.
Do you really get 100+ backlinks per article?
One of the URLS I tested in Article Ranks has 410 backlinks to it according to 3 different backlinks checkers, and I wrote 4 well-spun articles for linking to this site, which is page 2 for a somewhat competitive program name term. I can only suppose that another 4 articles would have me in top 5 for this term.
Is Article Ranks recommended?
Yes, it’s low enough priced, gets stuff indexed, network grows constantly and can move a site up in the rankings.
Disclosure: I managed to finagle a discount for you, 5 free credits to try out their system. It’s a coupon code tied into my affiliate link. So click the affiliate link here, then enter in the following code to get the discount. That’s 500 free backlinks… You’re welcome !:)
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I have to admit I read your piece, I visited the site – and they wanted my info prior to telling me how much it costs. I had to back off before I fully understand the details & you are very explicit in your communication.
I’m looking at this one and EZArticleLink.
Thanks TJ. I did my best trying to explain this via writing. Spent 1 hour skype-ing with Musa and one hour writing that post, and yet it’s still kinda confusing!
Not much else I can do there, maybe they’ll link to this post for clarification purposes…
Is the submission process complicated?
In SEO Linkvine you just post the article choose categories and hit the submit button. Is it the same case with Article Ranks?
Did you get 100 links over the period of 1 or 2 months? I’m very intrigued here. I was seriously thinking about hiring an seo company for backlinking but all i need is your blog.
Not gonna talk about SEO LV since its not recommended at all..
410 links from Article Ranks in about 1 1/2 – 2 months time.
Thanks for stopping by Zoul and for the feedback,
Dan
Cool review.
I’m a big fan of AR myself, since the syndication is just awesome (I get 100-150 publishes per article). It’s great that they’ve implemented something of a link-boosting feature, although I wonder how it’s actually operated, in the background.
If anyone’s in doubt about the service, just sign up and post two articles (the free credits will be enough for two, I think) and see what happenes.
Yea Shane this final part of review was long overdue, due to my confusion about how it worked and testing for a few months, too
BTW, the coupon I got there is good for 5 credits, so free 500 or so backlinks. Should do some damage (in good way)
Dan/Shane/et al –
I like what I read. I think.
What does the service cost? How much are the credits?
Dan, can you add color to adding a pr site to the program. I take a pr3 site of mine, add it to the program, and I receive free credits as articles are accepted onto my site?
These guys need to articulate their business model so Joe6 knows what’s going on without “assuming” and “I believe this is what it means” on prospective customers’ part.
Yup, add a PR3 site you own already or bought, and add it to the system to get free links credits.
If I were you, I’d rent links on that PR site for 10/month and use that income for your article writer, to use up your submissions credits
Hi Dan,
Where do you link to with the three backlinks you have for each article?
Related sites to first link, for second link a hub supporting the money site (first link), and a third to something else that’s also linking back in towards money site.
Or just 3 related money sites, reason being that some people who accept your articles on their sites will for some reason dislike linking out to non-super-relevant sites in their outbound links, so you’ll get better approval ratings if you keep it tight.
Is there any way to determine what this will cost after the credits are used?
From what I gathered on other sites, around $2.00 an article.
Thanks, I will research it further.
As I said in another post, I purchased Article Marketing Robot, and will be using it as well. I don not see a review on AMR here, but I am new to following your posts, so I will look further.
I am learning as much as I can about SEO, which there is much to learn.
Now that I have a product, the next challenge to just learn where when and how to put in the links. And what to link to.
Spin or not to spin, etc. I also see many of my questions have probably already been answered somewhere on this site.
Kevin, I’ll try to get a look at that, was more interested in article video robot though. Basically 90% of tools don’t do as good a job as a service does though.
Where does AMR submit to, does it do auto account creations, does it tell you the URLs of your submitted articles, do they get and remain indexed?
It’d help if you could answer those questions for me
Let me answer your questions on AMR.
AMR shows the page rank of all the article directories so you can choose which sites you want to submit to.
It does have an automatic account creation.
It does tell you the urls of the submitted articles.
Vince the creator is really easy to talk to on Skype and is willing to make suggested changes to the service that makes it better.
You can put all the articles into spintext and put the spintext into AMR and it will spin it as it submits the articles for you. They have there own spinner, but I still suggest using best spinner.
Some of the Article Directories include:
ezinearticles.com
articlebase.com
goarticles.com
medarch.net
isnare.com
articledashboard.com
carolinaarticles.com
activeauthor.com
articlesjust4you.com
adowp.com
articlealley.com
AMR is constantly updated their program, to get rid of useless article directories. They currently have about 1312 article directories in their service.
The negatives are these. There is a point when you can’t register for any more of the article websites. Also, I have found that once you have submitted a spun article to a website, even if you try and submit a totally uniqune new spun article the site wont let you.
You can also use your decaptcha accounts with this program which makes the program that much more effective.
There are some strategies that you can do using AMR to ensure you articles are indexed. Daniel has some great ideas on this site that I use. Also, you can use the spintext put it into AR or UAW and then link back to the original articles.
The great thing is that AMR will build you reports of all articles published with urls so you can link back to them. I think Vince also has some things he is doing to do it as well.
Thanks Dan,
I am just now getting back to learning the AMR. I have one article almost ready to go, I did this one using the AMR spinner. I have Rapid Rewriter, which I will use next time.
From what I understand of article directories, most will allow me to put 2 links in the resource box, which I am working on now.
When you say “I have found that once you have submitted a spun article to a website, even if you try and submit a totally uniqune new spun article the site wont let you” I am assuming that means I need to create a new email and author account for every article I submit?
If that is correct, is it better to not spin and submit? If I submit an original article, do I receive the same benefit from Google by having that same article on hundreds of directories? If I submit an original article will the sites let me submit more?
Ugh, so much to understand, it gets pretty confusing fast.
I really need to keep moving with this and learn, so maybe I should just shove this one out the door and start on another article and deal with whatever happens?
Thank you for checking out AMR
How does this service differ from UAW? Is it worth using both?
They’re close to being the same. IMO, Article Ranks is capable of doing less, but costs less, and you might get a higher percentage of indexed links.
All right Dan, I’m in. I believe in your insights. I am very enthusiastic about this item. I have 3-articles submitted tonight. The technology is fantastic compared to some of the other platforms.
I spin the anchor text, or create an article without a link {1|2|} – so the format is smooth.
One issue I would like to see improved – and I watched the video and messed with it a bit so I’m not an expert, and maybe missed how to do this – is to preview a spun version of the article. I noticed my apostraphes from uaw script were pasted in the wrong format on the html (%27 it should be; in html, if memory serves).
I really like the look, and feel. Thanks Dan. I don’t know if I would have looked as hard as I did into this product if it weren’t for you. Great job.
URL #1 in case study moved up again today, #13
Hey Daniel, Thanks for building this website
…i have a question about Articleranks, suppose i purchased a monthly subscription and my Category is “relationship” and then i wanna submit to “Internet Marketing” category, i have to buy some credits ? how much does it cost ?
after i read your review, i think it’s easy to use since we can use Spun article here (like SeoLinkVine, AMA etc)…so for this kind of link building service, do you think ArticleRanks is the best so far ? (Build my rank is kinda difficult for non-english people like me as i need to write one unique article per submission)
Thanks,
I tried the service, but wasn’t aware that I could post three backlinks in the article. Oh well, I do like the fact that you can add your own blogs for extra credits. Best Spinner does in fact export in that system, but in actuality you can get best spinner to export in any system on earth as it is easy to customize.
Overall Article Ranks is very similar to the freetrafficsystem and so will see how it goes after a month or two.
Thanks for the info, otherwise I wouldn’t have even looked at this site.
Hi Dan, I already signed up to AR through your links above. Where can I get the bonus 500 backlinks?
Thank you.
Well, if you put the code in that was given then you should have five free credits in your account… and thus 500 free backlinks.
What I don’t get is that I put a blog in the system, they are posting garbage articles on it and I am not getting any extra credits…
Thanks for explaining that Tom. Maybe Musa can explain the delay in your credits assignation
Hi Tom
Sites only get credits if they have PR.. Does your site have PR?
If you have seen any bad articles, please do report them to us and we will deal with the abuser appropriately, as sometimes some slip through
can you tell me how long it takes for an article to be fully syndicated to the network? one month? two months? I published an article in the health: alternative medicine category and after two weeks I only have 17 articles published. Is this normal or did I do something wrong?
I’ll ask Musa to respond to this
We were briefly upgrading the publishing engine.. Publishing should pick up now
You can always check article stats by putting your mouse over the article title and it will show you how many articles are waiting to be published
I admit that I wasn’t seeing a lot of articles going out either. I submitted an article and 3-submissions after 4-days.
I just wanted to let everyone know that the $39 monthly fee will be increasing on October 31st. I’m still debating whether to just buy a bunch of credits now or subscribe.
Question: Upthread you mentioned UAW and ArticleRanks is similar. With that in mind, do you recommend we use both? ArticleRanks’ system is confusing (to me) am wondering if it’s worth the trouble to invest time in the system when I’m currently using UAW.
On a side note, how do I subscribe to comments on a thread I didn’t post on? There are many posts I’d like to subscribe to so I can receive new comments via email. Thanks!
Elle, use one or the other and if you’re not getting results you want, then add more in, or add in other types of links.
Looking at a tweak to the Thesis theme here to allows users to follow conversations without commenting, easiest thing to do is add in a useful comment or question though.
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks for your feedback, Dan. Much appreciated. I truly do enjoy your site, and I’ll participate whenever I’m able.
I’d like you to review My Article Tools. I will be happy to give you a free membership as well as a walkthrough on Skype.
I have been reading your reviews on UAW and found the comment about getting 15 unique URL’s spun in an article interesting.
Using My Article Tools, you can spin hundreds of URL’s inside the resource box making one article as diverse as you could ever want.
Please Advise!
Nice Site by the way.
Robert
Replied to your comment with my Skype ID. BTW this was my 5th attempt to contact you, I guess you don’t reply back to those SPAM emails sent out…
which is how I first heard of this
Hi Daniel,
I like your reviews. Thank you for your honesty. Just wondering about cost of service. You didn’t mention it and it doesn’t mention it on their site. Why don’t businesses state the fees upfront unless it’s a very high-end personal service like legal fees which I understand?
I clicked on your affiliate link and it didn’t mention about 5 credits that were to be awarded. Do we still get credit from signing up via your affiliate link or has this been deprecated?
God bless<,
Victor
What is the difference between being a monthly member and submitting your articles by purchasing credits?
Hi Daniel,
I have a question. You said you submited 4 articles for a url/keyword and
Got 400 backlinks and google page 2 rank. And would like to add 4 more to get google top 5.
If you submit 4-8 articles to ar targeting only 1 keyword/url, aren’t they get mostly the same blogs linking to your url? I mean duplicate blogs linking to your site which will devalue the links.
Please help, confuse with this when using blog network linking
Thanks
No, they’re usually different blogs
Signed up, still confused. How many credits do I get for submitting let’s say a PR3 site?
Also, how many credits are required to add a category during submission? I’m about to try my free credits and maybe sign up for a monthly thing, but the lack of transparency regarding pricing is quite annoying.
Hi Dan and Guys,
Do you know how to track those accepted articles in AR? Anyone knows how to do this? Please share…
Thanks
There is no such feature in AR you can tracked submitted article. There is one thing you can do is.. include a “weird author name” in the contents and they search for it in Google in quote after days of submission. Or you can set Google alert to keep track it.
Can anyone tell me how many publishes they have of their articles? I have one golf article that was submitted on april 4, 2011 and it has only been published 29 times. It is spun more than 100%. Are the number of articles that are published so far normal?
@Eric,
I’ve submitted more than 5 categories to the system includes GOLF, LOAN, HOME and FAMILY, DRINKS and TRAVEL. So far not of the them past 35 times including rejected.
I came here to comment on the lousy submission rates with Article Ranks.
In February, every article I submitted reached 100 mark. But then, it plummeted to 50 per article and now is around 30 published articles per submission. That’s quite low and I’m not sure why would the owners do this in purpose. My only guess is that they have too many customers and too few domains, so they don’t want to overcrowd the blogs and leave people’s articles unindexed.
It is/It was a great service and lowering the number of published articles would be the worse way to ruin the service.
I’m in full agreement with James here. I seem to get articles stalling in the 21-25 range. On the other hand, as articles I write are handwritten and hand-spun, I’ve had very few rejections by site owners.
On the other hand, I will say that I have rejected A LOT of stuff on the site I used to build credits with. There is an INCREDIBLE amount of junk articles here, which strikes me as a lot of “automated” attempts that are just looking for results while doing zero work.
This service has potential, but ONLY that. Fortunately, it’s basically free once you accept a crap-ton of articles (in some cases, you have to accept 20 articles to publish one!).
Ask yourself this: is it worth paying $2 or whatever to submit your article 20 times? To pages that WILL be buried?
I guess my experience here is that Dan needs to work on finding a better “4th rated service”. This one seems to be pretty weak.
(BTW: love this site. I consider it a MUST-read! Thanks, Dan, for your frankness and honesty.)
Hey to both Maureen and James
I have read your comments and understand the situation. Do you have a monthly account, we now give much more benefits and priority publishes to monthly members
Please note everything with ArticleRanks is algothirm based, we actually have more sites in the system now then we ever have.
But what we are doing that no over system does is limit publishes to sites so sites do not get oversaturated as you said.
Can I ask a question as well..
You say Dan needs to review our service because we only published your article 20 times, however other services publish your article only one – linkvana, BMR and the rest.
We have some changes happening to AR over the next coming week
I actually probably know what the issue is you guys are having! I take it before we made a change to the category structure you used to be able to add your article to ALL category – This is what a ton of users were doing and because it got abused we removed it. But this made you gain access to more sites, I take it now you are just adding your article to 1 niche sub category, so that combined with not being a monthly member will leave your published numbers low
You can still submit to multiple top level categories although there is a little credit charge in place.
I know that articleranks is more powerful then it has ever been if you use the system correctly – Build your reputation on the whitelist, make sure articles are spun over 200%, make sure your article is suitable for multiple categories.
I am quite upset that some of you feel the need to post things without submitting tickets to us allowing us to give you guidance on how to increase your numbers. Its all very well jumping to conclusions about a system, but if you read our blog you will see how many changes have been made.
On top of this we are the lowest priced service and I personally use all other services and believe we are the strongest the links our system generates stands the test of time.
I would MUCH rather have 20 links that stick, rather than 200 links that drop off after a few weeks.
I just wanted to follow up on some of the comments that have been posted above.
I have actually been using the system since it was in Beta stage and to be frank (haha
frank not steven!) I’m still getting a constant publish rate – I have not seen
publishing number dwindle like others have reported on this blog.
The only difference now is that it admittedly costs me slightly more as I now have to
pay for credits to publish the article to additional categories. A good tip is to
basically craft the article so that it fits into multiple categories without being
spammy.
I actually did do a test month the other month, only submitting an article to only one
sub category I only got 28 publishes, but what do you expect when submitting an article
to such a niche category?
Articleranks clearly removed the “Entire category” feature because it was getting
abused as Musa mentioned above, and to be honest, what difference does spending a little extra on the occasional credit make when AR is priced so much more economically than all other major players?
Just a thought.
Steve.
My beef is with the credit system for paying members, something which is making me seriously consider canceling. I’m already paying, I should not have to buy credits.
I understand if you’re NOT a paying member, but if you pay a monthly fee, there shouldn’t be a “need” to use credits — and yes, I say the word “need” because submitting under a article under just one category is pretty pointless.
I’m already paying a monthly fee for membership, yet I have to pay MORE if I want decent syndication of the articles. Monthly membership should come with 2-3 category choices, not only 1. I have dozens & dozens of articles that need to be submitted — asking me to pay for credits when I’m already paying for a $40 membership is a slap in the face.
That’s my opinion at least.
Hi Sean
The problem was that it was the monthly members that were the WORST culprits of multiple category spam. They used to get their membership submit into tons of categories and abuse the system
Anyhow we are working on a algo tweak which should see a few changes filter through
A quick update. It seems that syndication stops at around 25-28 approvals. I’ve submitted over 3 dozen articles over the past few weeks and they all stop at about that range. Some fewer, some more, but that’s the average.
Now 28 links isn’t particularly bad, but for the price I’m paying — $40 each month — I expect better than that to be honest.
The earliest article I submitted, which was MONTHS ago maxed out at about 75.
My request would be to allow 2 categories: 1 General Topic, and 1 Subtopic. For Instances, an article about anti aging could go under: Main Topic: Health or Beauty, and then the Sub Topic: Anti Aging
Something like that. Just spit-balling ideas, that’s all.
-Sean
Have to agree with you here Sean.
Just signed up, paid the $40, and find i need to pay more (W.T.F.) to pick more then one category!
MUSA – Read This!
Your Policies to reduce spam are hurting your paying members. You MUST rethink how you go about doing this. As a new customer, having just paid $40, i’m less then impressed.
Get a rating system in for authors, and show it to the publishers. I just rejected 86% of about 20 articles, because they were either 1) Copies (Hello, there’s a sign we need more categories!) or 2) Complete Garbage.
The three i accepted were written properly, and read well. I wasn’t fussy.
But i only got .10 of a credit for a single article posted on my PR3 Site?
HUH?!?
This is wrong. I’m working to get credits, AFTER HAVING PAID FOR MEMBERSHIP!
Seriously, Musa, you need to rethink this strategy. At this stage i have no desire to continue past the first month.
Anthony
Anthony we have already replied to your ticket
As mentioned you have your spin cap set really low, increase that to 300% please.
We do not manually review articles, we allow the webmaster to review the content, you can block authors and remove them from your whitelist, an author who is getting blocked or junked regularly will have their account suspended.
We try to create the algo to detect spam the best, but its also down to the user to build up their own whitelist, by blocking users and over time only receiving articles from authors YOU trust you can read more about that here http://www.articleranks.com/blog/post/block-author-function-now-live
People have different standards and where we or someone else may see an article as ok, you may see it as terrible, so we filter out the really bad stuff and give the power to the user in the end.
Sean: I completely agree with your “beef”. The monthly fee makes zero sense. It is a premium fee with no benefits. All you have to do to get credits is set up a Wordpress on a website, and start auto accepting articles.
Ok, now look at my last statement. I’m no genius, but it took me about 10 seconds to realize credits are easily earned in this manner. So the question is, what kind of quality are these “article acceptance sites”? I can tell you that mine is pretty low. It’s brand new, as well, so it’s PR0. This is what I fear the network mostly includes: people that take this approach to earn credits. And why wouldn’t this be the case?
Anyway. I don’t pay, so I can’t complain too much. My only worry is that using the system (with its odd spin-text system) is wasting more of my time than it should.
I will admit this, though. If I was 300% spinning articles (which basically involves a 3x rewrite, plus individual word spinning, a process that can take hours), paying $40 a month, AND only getting 28 PR0 posts, I’d be pretty angry.
Hi Maureen
There is no possible way you can earn credits with a PR0 site, so I really do not know where you got this idea from. We have PR0 sites set to earning nothing. So I think they may of been a little white lie you told, I dont know why you would say that lie, We can supply screenshots of our settings to show that PR0 is set to 0 credits earning.
You can hardly earn good credits with a PR1 sites
We allow high PR sites to earn credits and thats why we have many more PR sites then our competitors
We already supplied Daniel with a breakdown of the PR of sites so he can verify this, and it WAS months ago he made this post, the PR of our sites is a lot better now.
The $39 fee is to give people unlimited submissions – This can be to any category, its just you cant add one article to multiple categories, this is well worth the money! There is no WAY we will open up $39 for unlimited categories, as people will abuse the system.
We already allow unlimited subcategories under the same top level
As mentioned before the KEY to good published on the high PR sites is to simply spin them very well and make sure they are good quality. A lot of the high PR sites are set to reject anything below 300% spun.
So if a low quality article is produced thats only spun 100% then it will probably end up going on the lower quality sites.
We actually don’t have many complaints and people that use the system have funds to use it so they dont mind as they know what they are getting back.
We are not going to offer everything free simply because the system will turn to sour grapes, like many other systems have in the past
Musa. Ok, so you’ve called me a liar. Not the best idea for someone with a customer-oriented business, but not a concern of mine, either.
I guess to clarify better, what I should have said is that if you set up a Wordpress directory off of a PR5 site (much like I did), it’s basically a PR0 site. There are NO external links pointing to this Wordpress directory. Thus, it is PR0.
My point was only that if I have a PR6 site called goofywidgets dot org, and set up an orphaned directory called goofywidgetsorphan to accept your articles, I can easily earn credits. The chance that hundreds if not thousands of your customers are applying this technique is pretty high, I’d think.
Of course, I guess all people have to worry about is the 21-28 sites their article ends up on.
Maureen we did not call you a liar simply the statement you said was a lie
Actually we dont check root domain power, we check the directory as you mentioned
So if someone adds example.com/blog we check the PR of the blog directory and not the root domain.
We have tons of satisfied customers that have been with us for a long time and they would not continue their subsriptions if the service did not work. We also use the system for our clients on a regular basis.
I do not why you are only getting 28 published if you have added a PR5 site and getting so many credits, are you still only submitting to one category
Please can you kindly supply me your URL so I can check the credits you are receiving? As you should not be getting credits if the directory level is PR0 and if this is the case we will need to apply a patch fix.
What can I say? I’m just a formerly satisfied paying client that’s now a relatively unsatisfied non-paying client that is watching the quality of this service slowly degrade.
Having used the service for some time (almost a year), I can definitely say things used to be a lot better.
Uh, and can I supply you my URL so you can target me and get rid of my credits, which took 6 months to build? Uh, don’t think so.
I actually think I located your account and you added one PR3 and one PR4 if its you (which are both homepages, no internal pages), I cannot locate your PR5 you are talking about
Things used to be a lot better in terms of publish numbers not network quality.. We are making an algo change over the next 7 days so stay tuned!
We wouldnt of deleted your credits, its a shame you cannot backup your complaints though, if you are making accusations I would at least like you to be able to back them up, so if there is an issue we could resolve it together
Don’t worry about trying to figure out who this person is, or isn’t. If your in business you realize your gonna get complaints. Just the way it is!
Maureen isn’t even a paying member, so worry about those that are, and your future members.
True, but we like to make all customers happy
This is one of the only complaints there is online really about us in the 2 years we have nearly been around.
If there is complaints we like to resolve the issue and put fixes in place not for the short term but for the longer term.
I.E. If we think a category has a low amount of good sites in it, we will invest a few thousand to buy some great old PR domains and build up the authority and then plug them into AR we do this regularly
Here is the thing, Dan won’t put his neck out for anyone, and he won’t suggest a service unless he knows it works.
The reality is this, not all services will work for all types of Niches.
In fact, some really bad services work for certain niches and nothing else.
Dan has Article Ranks because in General it works and is sound. He also is constantly testing things out. When a service that once was effective becomes not effective or even less effective he will tell us.
For everyone who complains that you don’t get a lot of links from the articles you submit, because they only get published 28 times, stop getting mad. It is far better to get 28 NICHE/Keyword appropriate sites/categories/tags than 1,000 articles on 1,000 different (non-related) sites/categories/tags.
Those who understand PANDA and understand what is going on, realize that Links ARE important, but Quality links is far more important.
-All the “spam links” still work, but only if they are niche/keyword related.
-Profile Links still work if you have an account of niche appropriate forums.
-Forum & Blog comments work if they are in done in forum/Blog appropriate places, and are relevant comments.
-Articles still work if they are in appropriate categories (and are new and unique)
-Guest Blog posts work if they are published in niche appropriate blogs
- Blog Roll links work if they are on niche appropriate sites
I have a suggestion for Musa/Article Ranks, but I am not going to since, they are kinda a competitor. But where I agree with your customers is there is a way to fix the issue, so more articles are being published in more places.
Thanks man
Some people just don’t understand what we are trying to do with AR especially after the panda update and future updates Google will launch throughout the year.
What people are not understanding as well is they can still submit to multiple sub categories in the top level, but people are just choosing only 1 sub category, which is way to niche.
They can submit to upto 20 subcategories if they wish and if their article is suitable for them all.
We actually have some BIG changes going live in the next 7 days.. It may upset quite a few of the “Free floaters”, but its a decision we made to build up the authority of the network and make it the best. I know a lot of people want THOUSANDS of links but quality of quantity is especially true now and in the future more.
We are not going to turn into another low quality network like others have.
Also I do not know if a lot of people know on here but we actually own one of the largest C Class hosting networks now, and supply IPs to a lot of the big networks that are around, so we even plug our own huge private network into AR
I do agree and if Dan sees the system is suffering he would announce it, but Dan knows how to build links and how to craft articles for maximum exposure
Good luck with your network
There are some out there who say having separate c-class ip-addresses simply doesn’t matter. BUT IT DOES MATTER!
So the fact your sites are already that way, means a lot.
Other things to consider is DNS, etc.
One thing I disagree with you on is the Page Rank of a site mattering.
Google can look at a site overall, but really they look at each page of a site. They rank each page separately for page rank. So though you don’t give credit to those with Page Rank 0 because you may feel they have no value, they do. Which was the concept behind what we are doing.
Having said that, your service has it’s place, and taking time use it properly is well worth it!
And thanks!
I agree some PR0′s can be powerful
But the easiest way on a mass scale to award credits was to check PR and domain age, in the future we may check incoming links as well and change the system to award credits via that way
That makes sense.
Wow. Looks like I pulled the discussion genie from the bottle
Good points, all. I was just relaying my experience, one that isn’t all sugarplums and lollipops.
Still, I remain a user. Perhaps that says something. I certainly look forward to any upcoming advances in the service. Sounds like a great way to transform a formerly paying customer into a currently paying customer
If I can point out a hilarity here, it’s that ArticleRanks is looking like the best deal in the history of the Internet compared to what’s I’m seeing from the poster named “seocontentnetwork.com”! That, my friends, is a hilarious offer.
Now that I’ve been given a great example of what some people are trying to pawn off on newbies, I can only give AR a double thumbs-up!
Maureen, sadly I doubt I am going to convince you of the power of seocontentnetwork.com, but I can’t sit back and allow our product to be attacked by someone who has never used it and has no idea its power! I love SEO and I came here to defend AR because I know it has its appropriate use in SEO.
AR and seocontentnetwork.com are different products that have different goals. Both should be used and one shouldn’t be ignored for the other!
The point of seocontentnetwork.com is to make sure each blog posts gets a page rank of 2 or better. The goal of seocontentnetwork.com isn’t about “links” it’s about getting your content and its customer’s guest blogs in front of as many people as possible, so that our customers can get their products in front of more people.
You were complaining not getting your articles published enough with AR. Even though seocontentnetwork.com isn’t about “links”, it does get its clients a high quantity of high quality “links” daily, monthly, and yearly.
In seocontentnetwork.com you get 30,000 guest blog posts published each month. (Daily you can get 1,000 guest blog posts published.)
Each of your guest blog posts will be published in Niche and Keyword appropriate categories and sites!
Again seocontentnetwork.com isn’t about “links” but let’s go over some of the basic “links” that are associated with seocontentnetwork.com
Daily you get 1,000 guest blog posts and each of the 1,000 blog posts will get the following:
-Submitted to 15 Web 2.0 sites linking to each guest blog post.
-Submitted to 50 Social Bookmarks Submitted linking to each blog post.
-Submitted to 3,000+ Article Directory Articles Linking to each guest blog post
Each guest blog post gets the following daily submitted links 15 + 50 + 3,000 = 3,065
Since each guest blog post gets 3,065 x 1000 = 3,065,000 (possible back links submitted to each customers daily guest blog posts).
Our process ensures that all of the articles get indexed, get a good page rank, and that people actually read the blog posts.
On top of that we put all our customers’ guest blog posts in Niche/Keyword appropriate RSS Feeds. We also ping all RSS feeds daily, and we ping all new published articles.
Seocontentnetwork.com isn’t for noobs, it is for experienced online marketers who want traffic from their guest blog posts in the content network, while at the same time getting high quality back links (but again the point isn’t the back links, just a natural consequence of doing guest blog posts) that will help their keyword rankings in the search engine.
Maureen, like I said in the first paragraph, I doubt I am going to change your mind, but your comments show that you don’t understand the power and strength of our unique content network.
Surely this discussion isn’t for advertising the strengths or weaknesses of any service. Unless Dan is fairly compensated for advertising a product, I don’t see how this fits with the thread here.
Maureen, you attacked my service, I had to defend it against your comments. I had no intention of advertising my product, I was defending it against your baseless/unwarranted/sudden/out of the blue attack on my service. Your attack on my service also didn’t fit this thread. I find it interesting, that you are the who attacked my service, and when I defend my service, you come back and act like I had no place to defend it…..
After my previous comment, i have to say this service is gone to the Dog House.
The network is full of spam – i added a few sites on there that i had available, just PR blogs… and the amount of spam i get is around 85%. I manually approve and it’s basically a task of sitting there rejecting spam / autogen article after article.
I submitted a single article, after signing up for the monthly plan @ $39, and find only a single category can be chosen. The article was about iPods and Satellite Radios (Double / triple categories), and i have to pay $6 to choose the extra categories.
Now, they want to up the price to $89 per month for anyone who submits more then 10 – 20 domains. They weren’t specific about it, in any way. Why? Because others are making money offering it as a service!
In other words, other people are making money, so they want to charge more (& make more themselves)
Overall, this entire experience has just put me off. I wrote support an email, and they just stated there was ‘no way’ they were going to change the way it works.
Musa, the owner, doesn’t take criticism very well either. A few users were complaining on the blog, putting their case well, and Musa just shot them down without concern for their points.
This is no way to run a business. Article Ranks is going down the tubes, all because the owners want to ‘curb’ spam by charging more money. Yep, that’s their best strategy.
Going by the amount of spam being submitted to my test sites, it’s a tactic that simply isn’t working.
Congratulations Article Ranks, you win my ‘PISS POOR’ service of the month. I’m off to cancel my paypal subscription.
Anthony we have written to you time after time asking you to make changes so the spam level lowers on your site, if you put the effort into actually applying our fixes rather then running around crying wolf then maybe we would get somewhere. I will reiterate it again
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As mentioned you have your spin cap set really low, increase that to 300% please.
We do not manually review articles, we allow the webmaster to review the content, you can block authors and remove them from your whitelist, an author who is getting blocked or junked regularly will have their account suspended.
We try to create the algo to detect spam the best, but its also down to the user to build up their own whitelist, by blocking users and over time only receiving articles from authors YOU trust you can read more about that here http://www.articleranks.com/blog/post/block-author-function-now-live
People have different standards and where we or someone else may see an article as ok, you may see it as terrible, so we filter out the really bad stuff and give the power to the user in the end.
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If we were going to shoot people down on our site we WOULD just delete the comments, but we leave them OPEN so everyone can see them, as there are genuine reasons that can be resolved. And the person you believe we SHOT down on the blog – contact him and ask him we had a nice conversation via he ticket system.
And yes we ARE charging $89 and also adding new features to that plan including Twitter and FB integration.
If people are making money from a service we create and maintain, then obviously the price will follow. This is NOT a charity and we do not work for free. This is a business. You would not go into a shop and get a can of pepsi and complain because they increased their price.
When the new features launch and we have invested heavily in adding more sites into the system, AR is worth way more than $89 month.
If people cannot afford the $39 we REALLY do not want customers like that its a simple solution if you think another service is better or does you justice, then use them. (We know we offer quality and when this new update releases we have also been building 500 new high PR sites to add into the system, which other service does this?). This may sound a bit rude to some people, but we really do not want curb kickers using the system. Do you know most systems have a VERY high drop out rate of monthly subscribers! We have had customers for over a year!
Our rules are in place for a REASON, a reason that has been justified by the lower levels of spam
The problem is we have thousands of customers, and you are pin pointing 1 complaint? Do you not think out of thousands of customers if the service was SO bad they would not complain?
Anyhow please open a ticket and provide us with your Paypal transaction ID we will refund your money for the month.
In the end a business dictates the price not the users, we know our service is quality and we know how many high PR quality sites we have in the system, we always have the free version that people can use to test the waters
Dan if you are reading this please kindly do another review on AR, you will see just how much better your rankings increase from the first time you did the review!
Wow Anthony, you have some strong feelings there.
I am sorry it didn’t work out well with AR for you.
Keep looking and I know you will find what will work well for you and your style of doing “back linking”.
I’m seeing somewhat decent results using AR but at times I question whether the high cost of the AR membership is worth it. One thing to understand too is that a lot of us are still newbies in IM so being able to only promote 5 domains at $39 a month is quite pricey and limiting.
I can understand your reasoning for wanting to charge more since others are selling it as a service but what about those who aren’t? What about one man shows such as myself who pretty much cannot afford to get this stuff outsourced?
Creating a 300% spun article literally takes hours which means that I can only submit so articles per month. With so many SEO changes going on, getting high rankings can take a long time.
Anyway, just wanted to voice my opinion here of the “little guy” who is still trying to build a full time income online.
“This is a business. You would not go into a shop and get a can of pepsi and complain because they increased their price.”
What planet do you live on? That’s ALL people do. And if pepsi goes and doubles their price to $2 for a bottle of soda instead of $1 — people won’t only complain, they’re stop drinking pepsi and move to a different product.
“When the new features launch and we have invested heavily in adding more sites into the system, AR is worth way more than $89 month.”
Put this to the test if you truly believe it. Raise the price to $150 or $200 per month and see how many people stick around. I’d love to see what happens and I’d likely bet money on the results. You may set the price, but it’s us who pays it.
Am I canceling? Not yet, but it’s a possibility if these new features don’t pan out. 3 Top level categories is a nice change indeed, but it’s hard to stomach at 2.5 times the cost.
Perhaps the new features (and more importantly, better syndication) will be worth it, but it’s going to be one hell of a bar to reach at more than double the price.
If I had one suggestion — one that I hope you take seriously — it would be to let previous articles (with only one category) have more category choices. I really don’t want to re-submit my articles just to get 2 more categories — that’d be a pain. I’d do it, yes — its just that I don’t want to if there’s an easier way.
One thing I have to say here is,
If you did your keyword research and niche research and market research properly, then this price increase is, or should be very minor. And I’m not saying this to defend any particular service, but rather to point out that if your marketing is up to snuff, then you’ve already made your money back with a service in Month 1, or with articles1-4.
Sometimes link building works well, sometimes a service works surprisingly well, but if you work well then it all doesn’t really matter, especiall yif you have multiple websites that you’re earning from.
With all this being said, with the time and effort people are putting into linking services and article spinning, they could be buying up some keyword rich domains with PR and age, and building mini-nets and their own private network, too.
Do link exchanges from your PR-ed domains so you get backlinks to your flagship niche sites, and build an EMD mini net with PR-ed domains all the while….
“With all this being said, with the time and effort people are putting into linking services and article spinning, they could be buying up some keyword rich domains with PR and age, and building mini-nets and their own private network, too.”
I want to do this. As of the moment, I have both the time and the money to do it (outsourcing) — I just don’t know how to do it and be safe, such as with different hosts and buying actual high-PR domains and not “fake PR” domains.
You wouldn’t happen to know of a guide or e-book detailing how to build these mini-nets do you? I’d love to start doing this asap.
There are existing content networks out there, that work very well and don’t have the same challenges as this one. I know one that works like a link wheel, with high quality sites
Having said that, Dan knows a ton about this, and we have spoken about it network of sites, he has some great ideas. I am sure one of his future posts will go more into details on what the best solution would be!
All hubris aside
Read some of the posts on this site in the mini-nets category… Also Google mini-net.
Also, look http://www.solarhome.org/ and see the sites in its mini-net linking to it, and how those mini-nets are set up.
Dominate long tails with mini-net sites, which get constant traffic and eventual PR, and the trust passes on towards the mothership site.
You can do this with brand new, expiring, or auctioned domains and sites, all depending on how quickly you want to ramp things up. At some point the high PR links will be next thing Google devalues, so it’s best to try and corner all your niche traffic via long tail mini net sites, which as standalone entities provide value to the “net, but also which can be used to direct link juice.
I am lagging behind on my sites portfolio, made too many MFAs that aren’t good for testing things out now, so I will probably do a case study where I go “nuts to butts” with a mini-net designed like I wrote above.
Dan I don’t think you have any exxaggerated pride or self confidence. I think your experiences and back ground lead you to be more of teacher of back linking than anything else!
And I highly suggest any readers listen and follow Dan’s advice!
I hear that a new panda update is coming out, have you heard anything, and if so what have you heard?
Wow, the guy ranks #1 for both “Solar Panels” and “Home Wind Turbine” (another domain).
You got any tips on buying old domains? He probably paid about $500-$1000 for each of those sites.
Thanks man that’s a great find. Let us know if you find any other sites with great SEO like that.
Darn, I read and reread this comment and still don’t have a grasp on how to check the mini-net categories on this site or the solar panel site. Please help.
Geez, I put this guys backlinks through Majestic SEO today and I noticed that Google deindexed a lot of his high pagerank domains he was using for his mini-net.
It looks like the poor guy didn’t have private registration for his sites. Thankfully he only fell a couple of spots down to three.
Hi Dan,
Is there any chance you can do a review of Article Ranks Pro subscription (the $89 subscription)?
I’m especially interested in the;
Priority distribution
Twitter & Facebook integration
You see I have around 10 money sites and I’m getting OK distribution rates with their $39 sub. I spin the sentences then most of the words, so the body is normally 400%+ spun and I’m getting around 40-50 per article (and I choose multiple sub categories).
I’m thinking, is the ‘priority distribution’, plus Twitter/FB integration worth an extra $50 a month for me, considering the number of sites I’m promoting.
Or would I be better off adding another blog network system to my SEO arsenal (I’m already using BuildMyRank and Blogging Underground)?
Also, what is your opinion regarding Twitter and Facebook in relation to them directly affecting SEO ranking? I know, in theory they’re nofollow so it shouldn’t matter but I keep seeing posts of people saying it may make a difference.
Thanks.
Hi,
I wanted to ask other members of this website about their latest experiences with Articleranks. Posts here have no date, today it’s oct 31, 2011.
I made 2 account with Articleranks. One 3 weeks ago, the other one 2 weeks ago. With both accounts I posted articles, the articles in the 3 week old account were distributed 50+ times, the articles in the 2 week old account were distributed 40+ times. So together 90+ articles with each 3 links to my websites. That’s 270 links, sounds really nice, and should be enough I think.
The only problem is that there is completely no trace at all of these articles when searching with google. Really completely nothing. The websites I am promoting are new, just searching with google for the domainname should give me something.
Last weeks I also did some linkbuilding to the same sites myself, mainly on linkdirectories. Even though some of these linkdirectories have a PR 0 the links show up when searching for the domainname with google.
I subscribed to Majestic Seo and when using that service I found some links/artciles from Articleranks. But why they were not indexed by google ? I was a little bit surprised to see why. Articles are posted on PR 1 wordpress weblogs with up to 150 articles posted each day, each containing 3 links. It’s not a surprise google doesn’t index this crap, 150 posts with 450 links each day, day after day after day, on a PR 1 weblog.
Did I expect too much from article marketing ?
I am thinking about what to do now. I can ofcourse make some links to the Articlerank articles I found with Majestic Seo, hoping google will index it so I will get some links to my websites. But I am not sure if links from this kind of websites will help me.
I’ve used article ranks on and off for almost a year now and these days I completely stopped as they are now worthless. I’ve done testing and compared to UAW and AMR its not worth wasting your time or breath on them.
The posts barely get indexed and when they do its on spammed sites…. I mean really spammed.
Even if you add a blog to their system, its easy to see how they function. Don’t credit for the posts which you receive, quality control doesn’t exist and customer service sucks.
Article marketing still works somewhat but there are much better options.
TomL
I do not know your bad experience, but i have run tests for the past 2 months and have always seen a ranking increase.. i do not really care about index etc etc all i care about is my rankings increasing
On the other hand i have not seen at all much improvement using AMR which is probly the most spammed service out there
customer service has been rather good whenever i experienced an issue – they respond rather promptly on most occasions
I can get better ranking movement by blowing air on my computer screen… lol… than with Article Ranks and I really did think that it had potential.
TomL
With Tom totally on this one. Consider this: unless you’re on crack you’re probably not paying for this service. And, of course, you get what you pay for.
The only note I have to make is that it just really isn’t worth any time. Keep in mind that the “Article Spinning” method is now 2+ years old. That’s light years in Google time.
Wortless is the right word. I now have over a hundred articles posted by Articleranks. With Majestic seo I found 16 articles, only 3 of them were indexed by Google. I found 1 PR4 weblog, 15 others had PR0 or PR1. I found 1 PR1 weblog with 350 new articles in 1 day (nov 14). 350 articles in 1 day on a PR1 weblog, that is really sad.
What do you think are better options ?
If you have AMR and get some of the additional article directories lists… this can give you some link diversity. Don’t expect too much from article marketing these days…
TomL
Hi
From my guesses I take it that you guys have been using the free/credit membership?
If so that you will probably be tapping into the lowest value blogs/sites in the system as that is how we know work. And if you have been using it as a free member then please express your concerns but dont expect the world as a free member
For example the PRO memberships get priority syndication that means more and faster syndication and syndicated to PR sites first. Starter package is slightly more priority then the free/credits member as well.
Anyhow Dan is currently testing AR and we are also following the increases AR still brings to sites – The results thus only a week or so after the test and things are looking positive.
*There is no free membership. In exchange for posting articles I let Articleranks post articles on my blogs (which are not PR0 en PR1)
*On your website you mention nowhere that there is any difference between membership levels and PR of websites where articles are posted. It does tell something about priority, but nothing about other differences.
*You should understand that people will first try a lower membership level, and if they are happy with the result, will upgrade to a higher level. So making any differences without explaining is also wrong marketing.
*Free or paid; Posting 350 articles with 1050 links a day, day after day, on a PR1 weblog is almost like a crime. You can as well simply delete this articles instead of posting them this way…
Do you know how much time I spent writing these articles, only to see that only 3 of them are indexed by google on worthless weblogs ?
Wait a second – “Not getting results? You may want to pay us more!” – is pretty much the oldest (and most pathetic) marketing trick in the book.
If the Article Ranks bottom end product is so “low quality”, why would you expect people to “upgrade”?
And I would also agree that none of my sites were PR0, either. The links I received through the service? Pretty worthless overall.
Jackson, I’m trying to stay impartial here, if AR didn’t work for you so be it, I respect that.
But free membership are aplenty in this type of service UAW MAN SEOLV, Free Trial with BMR etc, etc…
Yes that is free membership.. You let us post to one site we give you access to dozens
On the plans page it does say higher priority and low priority for free/credits members
I understand that people test it with the free plan and we get a lot of upgrades because of that. But we have tons of customers who remain on the free plan. So the best benefits are given to paying customers
I wouldn’t say its like throwing the article away! Article directories and sites like squidoo, hub pages etc etc all publish thousands of pieces of content per day.
In all honesty if you are looking for a platform who just publishes one article or even 2 articles per day then I would go down the route of guest blogging, speaking to journalists or building a private network (Actually things you SHOULD be doing anyway ontop of link building with AR)
As an example if we run an SEO campaign on a site we do not just limit ourselves we do the following
- Build private network for the site in question
- Use tools such as AR, UAW, AMA, SEOLV, BMR plus many more out there
- Guest blogs
- Press releases
- Traditional article marketing and blog commenting
- Bookmarking
- Plus more
This is what every SEO campaign should be undertaking as you get huge link diversity looking natural with some links high quality and some low. I am not saying you are just using one method but I know a TON of people who just use one method for their SEO campaigns which is very floored. Also just because a page may not get indexed it does not mean Google have not detected the page and count the link. They just may not want to index that piece of content but it doesnt stop the link from flowing PR (Not the PR we see Googles internal PR). There are various pieces of documentation including the trademark on PR you can read. Now obviously an indexed page is going to pass tons more power then a non indexed one but to say its better to throw it away.. comeon
Also another benefit for monthly members we automatically build links into a random selection of published articles so they are not just sitting around gathering dust
Now you probably think I am just trying to stick up for our network. Well yes I am and to be truthful as well we do not run tests on the free plans we only run regular tests on our monthly plans to see if they are still giving SERP increases. And AR on everything test that third parties have done you can read a ton around the internet it still delivers SERP movement.
P.S. We have also been working on a new network that is set to explode when we launch and will be a HUGE benefit to free users so keep your eyes peeled in the next few weeks.
I don’t care about what the public relations team says or what the reviews are saying… once I test the service… truth comes out.
Seeing the job done with this service, I will most likely send any information about any new service where it belongs… the trash can.
There are way too many options out these days to waste time on crappy services.
As they say “you can polish a turd, but it doesn’t change what it is”
Regards,
TomL
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