Wikis are now THE “trust rank” building backlink type to get, according to all the Special Offers I’ve been pointed to by readers. Most people are offering services that include wiki links and social links as part of their overall guaranteed rankings increases packages.
However, what makes wikis so special now is because they’re an under-utilized link type, meaning that you probably don’t have this type of link type yet, therefore are lacking in some link diversity. Nowadays, it cannot hurt to have links like this to your sit, and I have seen some rankings improvements after adding this type of link to your inbound links portfolio.
I’m love automation, so this automated wiki links service is what I bought recently because it comes from a guy I trust and respect and I’m happy to say that it works (already).
I wish I could give you a longer review with case studies and what-not but I just haven’t had time , or rather…WE haven’t had enough time to let the dust settle from all the recent algo updates, to then do proper testing for 3 months on a whole slew of urls… so you are just going to have to trust me on this one.
Who is this NOT for?
This is not for the person who can only afford one service, and decides that automated wiki links are the ONLY type he/she is going to get instead of just only automated article links, or just only social links…
Link Diversity is a big key to ranking well nowadays, some of it has to do with link types, and link sources.
Wiki links aren’t magic pills, but their a trust link type and you’ll need to creates lots of them manually to have a lot of them “stick” or you can have a have lot created for you automatically and have some stick.
Who should get this?
Someone like me who says, “yea I never bought into that whole wiki and edu trusted links stuff but since nowadays everything I read says that I NEED all sorts of link diversity, so maybe I should get on board with adding wikis”. Maybe you wouldn’t have said it exactly like that, but wikis are somewhat of a trusted source for backlinks, they get deleted often by admins, a lot have to be created in order for some to stick, and it would take you forever to find and build your own wiki links source lists.
Recent Algo updates have put the fear of G into people and they’re running scared. SEOs are out looking for jobs because they were too heavily reliant on one method of ranking. I know what’s working right now, and it’s almost too easy to do, but in the meantime adding this automation to your arsenal will work, almost just as well as the time consuming brain-bending whitehat stuff that’s working well now, too.
That’s exactly the reason why I got this service, and why I’m adding to my automation, not decreasing it, and it’s helping me rank stuff when added to other link types I’m already getting (bolded, underlined and italicized for a reason!
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Dan,
Is there any chance of an article with some advice about the recent Google update? I can’t work out what has changed and it seems nobody else is sure. At the minute I am just waiting to someone whose opinion I respect can give me some answers.
You are top of that list. I know you have always preached link diversity and quality, but even that seems in doubt now. I was interested in your thoughts and advice on this.
FYI: The site I added a link to seems to have been really slapped, whilst others we have not and I can’t work out why.
Cheers,
Chris
My brain is stuck on this part. What’s “almost too easy”?
Point me to the MR interview that tells me this.
Hi, as you can tell MR is a mess. Im really struggling with the CMS . 3 interviews aren’t posted yet, having issues with video and sound quality etc…
I emailed you the response to this, please don’t share it too much or it will be the next overused, fad thing if it isn’t already… No interview about it, not one that I recorded. I’m thinking it’d be easier if I just picked peoples brains and tested stuff and stopped trying to do interviews, and it’s holding me/us back.
Apologies for complaining, you’re a customer so… I emailed you the quick and dirty how-to on what’s working…
Hey Dan,
You don’t have to publicly post this but I’m a member of MR and I’m wondering if you could email me this interview/tactic as well. I appreciate your time and your work on this site over the years.
Take care,
Sammt
It’s half written and needs more explaining, sorry to be so cryptic. You might not even like it, but it works, and that’s all I can do really, is point the way.
Ahhh now you got us all curious! Would be great if you could email me too or post it in MR
I read some great stuff in the interviews btw, I was pleasantly surprised. I was sure it would be mostly of the “same old same old” ideas that I am very familiar with since I’ve been doing SEO for a few years but there was some great tips to help spark my new strategy for SEO in 2012. Penguin killed a lot of my sites
THERE IS NO SPOON
MR members, log in and look for Hybrid Strategy in SEO STUFF folder, and Part 2 and 3 subfolders
Apologies for site being such a low-end looking mess
No apologies for the content though
Never is in a supermarket salad mate.
The trick is – don’t cover it with dressing, and you can eat it with your fingers without getting into a terrible mess,
I’m sure that’s a great metaphor…for something or other.
Thank you. MR is good. I personally just need things summarized and emphasis put on the most important parts of each interview.
I was doing very well in my niche for a long time, but my tactics (link buying on High PR sites) went out of favor with Google over time and now I can’t get past the 2nd page for most of my profitable keywords.
dan, this “almost too easy” is too cryptic for me … was never any good at solving hidden puzzles …
Also wondering if you have any idea (roughly) what percentage of wiki links stick? I guess I’m asking this to assess whether it’s better to spend a bit more on links that could be considered more permanent, though I do absolutely get what you’re saying about diversity.
I tried a wiki service about six months ago, and I reckon maximum 20% of those links have “stuck” – probably be more like about 10% – though maybe this differs between services? (or maybe not?)
I sometimes use a plugin which sends links to wikis whenever I post an article to my blog, and these seem to be more sticky – maybe max about 30% retention.
How “spammy” is posting to wikis? I mean, the idea of blasting out spun crap to people’s wikis doesn’t sit too comfortably with me, it’s just as scummy as comment spam. I can sort of live with it in a limited sense if these are long-dead wikis no-one ever looks at any more, but otherwise this smacks of both a deeply unethical approach, and (if that is not a concern) the next thing that will get devalued if not slapped in the next update…
It depends on how it’s done.
If you submit an article on pay day loans to a wiki site strictly made for programming or software related wiki’s then that would be pretty spammy.
However, if your content is relevant to site being submitted to and follows their established posting guidelines then there is nothing wrong.
I don’t necessarily know what this site does quite yet.
Good point Briggsy. Spamming is a form of offence, and offence is purely in the eye of the offended.
I’m also a member of MR and I’m in the same boat as briggstown, been hit HARD by this update even though I diversified my links like crazy. Having trouble finding links that actually help my sites. I don’t mind a little hard work, just wanna know whats effective.
I’ve got no idea what this “almost too easy” thing is, so I’d be hugely appreciative if I could get a copy too. I don’t talk to anybody but my dad about my business and he doesn’t even know how to use a computer – so no risk of me “spilling the beans” to anyone, lol.
I’ll be looking into this wiki service, same guys that made backlink bonzai, so it’s gotta be worth looking into.
It would be great if you include a forum in the MR membership. Good content, keep it coming. Thanks
Marketers Relief definitely needs a forum. I remember trying the hybrid strategy myself back in the day. Failed miserably at it and decided to outsource it instead. Found 1 guy who did it, but he decided to get shady and secretly started using a monthly “linking-service”.
He got his $5 per link and then went to a monthly rental service that only charged $2 per link. So he made a profit of $3 per link and at the end of the month his customers lost all their links.
I’ve recently signed up with Wiki Whirlwind to try and dilute my anchor text and diversify my backlink profile for a site that got hit hard.
The links I’ve seen so far are just spun content with the links at the bottom of the page on their own not surrounded by any text which is a shame. Would’ve been nice to see the links in the text of the article or surrounded by some generic text like “To find out more click here now”.
Although maybe Google doesn’t care where the links are on a page?
You are probably sick of people asking you about the “I know what’s working right now, and it’s almost too easy to do” bit but if you aren’t feel free to send me an email!
Thanks.
No one has really told me what’s so special about this service versus all the other wiki posting services/programs that have recently come out.
Does this service have a better stick rate? If so why?
Any update from anyone on the Wiki service? Any positive results?
I have a site that has been hit by Penguin but not by Panda so I am presuming its a lack of anchor text diversity.
I am thinking about building 1000 per month from this Wiki program and 1000 a month through Banzai – all with very diverse anchor to see if that dilutes things and aids recovery.
Not just anchor text diversity. Many sites were hit because they didn’t have platform diversity for their links. I personally had way too many links from Wordpress based sites and the only links I found for BB were Wordpress based Q/A or article directory sites.
That’s why I’m thinking about switching over to WikiWhirlWind instead.
you might be having lot of over optimized anchors due to which you got hit briggstown despite of wordpress platforms etc.
Not a knock on Wordpress for your main site. It’s just that every blog network I’ve used over the past 3 years was mostly made up of Wordpress blogs. Linx Boss, Backlink Solutions, AMA, Seolinkvine, BMR etc. etc.
I started doing generic linking terms over two years ago, but most of those links are de-indexed.
I just changed a signature in a forum where I have over 1000 posts. All with keyword anchor text – changed it to http://website-name.com
Will see what difference that makes
Also took down a wordpress.com blog with around 200 posts all with a keyword anchor link at the bottom….
In the meantime Banzai is chucking around 400 links a month at my site with random anchors and a few keywords and synonyms
I did that too Andy – changed the blog roll links to naked url.
I haven’t seen any impact from using Wiki Whirlwind to water down my exact match anchor text.
Problem is I have about 600 links pointing at my site using the exact match keyword which is about 80%
How can I possibly reduce that percentage so it 20% unless I build another 5000 links to the site using another keyword!
I will be working on similar numbers
So maybe link velocity will come into play when trying to water down the anchors which means there is no way to immediately recover by adding links but you may get a result by taking them away.
I am tempted to go for this wiki service but I surmise that google wants everything in moderation and has an algorithm which checks how closely a sites backlink profile matches the average backlink profile of either sites in your niche or the entire internet as indexed by them.
So having 10% of your links from wikis may also raise a flag?
Just noticed Google have now changed the whole places listing thing and all my reviews are gone! Geez I am having a bad friggin month with my main money site – hit three times in quick succession by google updates… Penguin, then dupe content issue and now my maps/places someone over there doesnt like me!
My authority site is now friggin dust! I am so glad I managed to build up a half decent client list – I would be toast otherwise. Thats going to buy me some time to try and turn this around.
That doesn’t sound good Andy!
My sites are smallish niche sites to not too much work lost. Must be a pain to lose an authority site.
I’m starting an authority site but am going to try and do it as white hat as possible (with in reason)!
I would go for these, but I can’t see how they are not totally spammy looking. My understanding is if they create 1000 of these only a few will stick, so it sounds more like the link spam shell game that isn’t working that much anymore. Thoughts?
Pretty accurate Jen… 10% of these links will stick…
What’s the difference between this and Backlink Bonzai?
I subscribed to this service, but Backlink Bonzai is recommended. I am confused.