22 Comments on Brute Force Linking Loophole Review Part 1

David N on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 4:24 pm


I use this software and like it. I also use SENuke so I can automate the email creation and clicking the activation links. I use paid proxies to hide my IP address so that is not an issue for me. Basically, whenever I do a SENuke run I also do a Bruteforce Linking Loophole submission.

I believe it’s important to ping and bookmark the profile urls as well. I usually create an rss feed with the profile urls and submit that to. Because I make an effort to get the search engines to notice the profile pages, many of these links do show up in Yahoo’s backlink checker.

I’m only paying 29 dollars a month. I got it at a discount from a WSO if I remember correctly.

How strong are the links? Honestly I don’t know. I am in a very competitive niche and every link helps. I believe they are stronger than say SB links so are worth my time to get them.

Daniel McGonagle on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 4:57 pm


How much time do you spend to verify account registrations and to do the manual, mandatory, required one-time logins for some of these 100 sites, and how long does it take you to get all sites verified per email address “link run”?

If you don’t know the power of the links but have used it for a while, then you find out what those links are worth before paying yet another 39 dollars or 29 dollars for something that may or may not work well

Split test link sources to see which ones are worth your while, SE Nuke is supposedly the only tool you’ll ever need to compete in heavy niches… or so they say

David N on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 5:24 pm


I use SENuke to verify the email addresses automatically so it takes only a minute or two. I don’t bother with the sites requiring me to log in and change the password or whatever. It’s just not worth my time. I still get about 40 successful submissions. By using SENuke with Bruteforce Linking Loophole everything is automated.

SENuke is great and I love it. Remember though the links gained have no PR so while they do help they are not the end all of link building. I also use some of the services promoted on this blog. Personally I like Unique Article Wizard and Linkvana. I may start using The Link Juicer again once Peter makes the new changes to his service.

I did test it on a site that only had some 350k competing pages and it worked well there moving the site up to number 11 on Google. After that I started using other software to gain links so I just don’t know how strong the links really are.

I really don’t have time to setup another domain to test this software on. That’s kinda why I read this blog

Daniel McGonagle on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 5:43 pm


OK, so I’m not crazy, it took me an hour before I realized that spending another hour or so to set up the logins for the non-automated sites wasn’t worth it.

Which means the hundred or so sites you start with is reduced to less than half that for setting up full profiles and automated logins.
Dave, is the list inside that Copy TEXT file thing that shows up at the end of links runs depicting the number of successful About Me + Links postings?

If so, I’m looking at about 16 sites out of the total 100 getting the blurbs put in automatically.

David N on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 6:16 pm


Yes, at the end of the submissions Bruteforce Linking Loophole gives you a list of URLs to the profile pages. VERY IMPORTANT! Save this list. These URLs need some work on them to make sure they get found. If the search engines don’t find these you have just wasted your time and are not using the software to it’s greatest potential. At the very least, ping these profile URLs (Bookmarking Demon has a pinger or use SENuke). If you don’t have this software use http://pingomatic.com/ or a similar online service. As I said before I also bookmark these URLs (I use bookmarking Demon). You may want to make an rss feed with these URLs as well. I like to use http://www.html2rss.com/ for this and then submit this feed to the rss directories. If the URLs are not promoted then you will almost certainly have poor results from this software.

Dan, 16 successful submissions seems very low to me. I usually get around 40. In a few days they should be adding another 30 or so. Don’t know why that’s so low for you.

Daniel McGonagle on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 6:32 pm


David, it might be because Firefox is my default browser and the automated processes are running in FF, not IE.

Pingler is a decent service to use to ping those profile pages.

I’ll keep playing with this software to see exactly what’s needed to make it works best.

David, I’d be more than happy to pay you to create 6 sets of the BFLAL style profile pages for me (you know… the proprietary file type that BFLAL creates for exporting/important configurations to and from?

Lemme know, it’d be a lot easier for me to test this tool out if you could use SE nuke and BFLAL to create sets of logins for me to import, might be a new cottage industry

David N on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 6:52 pm


Sure no problem and no I don’t want paid. I’ll get at least a couple registered and verified emailed over to you by tomorrow.

I can also dump links for you on my blogs if you could just send over some spin ready blurbs and your links and keywords. I usually post to a few hundred blogs a day so this may be helpful to you.

Daniel McGonagle on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 7:48 pm


OK thanks David, appreciate it , will let you know about the blurbs and snippets. I take it you’re using an LFE style method to post to hundreds of blogs a day?

BTW, I came across this recently

http://www.adhocads.com/node/930

Interesting, not sure how true it is though

If you email me those profile files that’s be greatly appreciated, and I’d converse with you via email about the snippets syndication, might be a good way to finish up/develop my LFE review, if that’s what you’re using.

Dan

Michael Brown on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 10:16 pm


Dan;
This comment will probably be regarded as totally off the wall. Your pop up offers something interesting 3way linking. OK fine, I go and begin your sales letter half way down the page you put in your first example of a generated link. OK but Dan, Not everybody feels the same way about GWB or MM as you do, in fact some might find the example “miserable failures” to be downright insulting. I’m Gone!

Daniel McGonagle on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 11:14 pm


Yeah, that’s a bit off the wall there Michael..

I don’t write the copy and when it converts well I have no issues with my copywriters’ work. Read this post aptly titled, the “The Copywriting Mindset, it doesn’t matter what you think”

It doesn’t matter what I think but it does matter how well a page converts. If you’re that fickle about receiving a lifetime of free unlimited 3 way backlinks then you could always go use other services that charge $47.00/month for the same thing.

Point: Be a business person first when assessing what tools you decide to use, don’t find reasons to NOT do something based on personal preferences.

If you were working for an SEO firm and you told your boss you passed up a great source for FREE automated links because of your personal views, you’d be fired in a heartbeat, as would I if I made that same decision.

Since that graphic is really old, I’ll probably change it since it’s not 100% current or relevant anymore, but by thetime that happens you’ll have to PAY to get the service.

Good luck with your next business decisions,

Dan (the fiscally responsible, pro-life, pro-gun (?) pro-business, pro-small government conservative who despises Michael Moore) McGonagle

Daniel McGonagle on Mon, 9th Nov 2009 12:34 pm


Replying to my own comment here:

My Latest run with Brute Force Linking authority Loophole garnered 21 successful posted blurbs, so it’ s getting closer to the 50% success rate David “enjoys”.

Also took my 15 minutes to go ping all the successfully created profiles-with content, so BFLAL really takes close to an hour and a half of your time for each link run.

I’m kind of surprised there isn’t something in BFLAL that takes your profile list and imports into something that does the pinging of the successfully posted-to profiles for you, seems pretty easy to do for these tech whizzes.

AdhocAds on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 10:41 am


Same story different day.

Look, I’m all for finding new and inventive ways to improve SERPS. And, I’m a programmer, so I love anything that helps me automate my daily routine.

But you guys are doing alot of work for nothing here.

Seriously guy, Angela’s links have been around for over two years by now. That’s a lifetime on the internet. don’t you think that if these PR0 profile pages actually boosted your SERPS that every SPAM king on the planet would have every first page of every SERP on Google completely dominated?

There are programs out there that can generate millions of free profile pages. And if youve ever owned a site that has a registration to it, you can attest to the sheer number of automated sign up there are.

It just doesn’t work. Pagerank is assigned to the PAGE, not the SITE. Just because your link is on a page of a site that has authority doesn’t mean you benefit from it. If the page has a PR0, you get NOTHING.

Just ONE link from a high quality, very relevant site with a PR3 and few outbound links is worth more than ONE THOUSAND low quality, low traffic, not relevant at all profile pages on site thave a a good PR on their homepage.

Dont believe me? Conduct a test for yourself. I’ll give you the PR3 link for FREE to conduct the test, as long as I can assist you in setting up the sterile environment, and as long as you SWEAR to write a blogpost proclaiming your results in at least 3 or 4 places where people will read it.

Daniel McGonagle on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 11:14 am


I agree with everything you said here, fyi.

And despite that I will still use this service for another 20 days or so because the only thing I truly believe is what I did, how I did it and what my results were, not yours.

Although I’m positive you know what you’re talking about I have been surprised before with services that in theory didn’t stand much chance of doing well, but did anyways.

I sent you an email to see if you can do some programming for me,

Dan

Daniel McGonagle on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 11:24 am


Replying to myself again here…

Apparently this does work as my buddy Andy Black says here

http://www.article-writer-pro.com/blog/index.php/08/how-to-get-powerful-backlinks-from-profile-pages/

Thing is, it means you have to build up all of these profiles, add content to them, ping them, get them indexed etc, etc, etc…

Still not the best types of links to get and still not automated

AdhocAds on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 11:44 am


“Thing is, it means you have to build up all of these profiles, add content to them, ping them, get them indexed etc, etc, etc…”

That’s exactly right. If you develop quality backlinks and traffic to each of these backlinks, THEN they can pass value back to your target site. Angela doesn’t tell you that part, though, lol.

It’s very much like a link wheel. Link wheels in and of themselves provide no value whatsoever. The link structure and architecture itself is no value whatsoever. The page on blogspot or squidoo or weebly itself is worthless on it’s own.

But if you promote each spoke of your wheel, developing quality backlinks and traffic to each one, and then link each one to your target site, then you gain some value. Not only do each of the spokes pass linkjuice to your target, but each spoke itself than also may rank well for your targeted keyphrase.

Yes, it’s alot of work, becuase now you have not just your target site to promote, but each of the spokes as well. But the rewards can be tremendous. I’ve seen examples where someone’s link wheel and target site comprised 4 out of the top 10 results for his targeted key phrase! Now that’s what I can dominating the market.

Daniel McGonagle on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 11:48 am


Chris, nice to see a pro SEO confirming what I wrote on this post here on link wheels (2-3 part series).

My issue with doing link wheels is spreading yourself too thin and losing track of your objectives, your business goals by confusing motion with accomplishment, then getting overwhelmed with a ton of writing and web 2.0 and satellite site promotions.

So Angela’s links and Brute Force etc…. would work, just like linkwheels would work if you just spend time doing the manual stuff like building up all those satellites/spokes of the wheels.

AdhocAds on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 11:55 am


Exactly.

I actually do recommend a little link wheeling, but I usually stop promoting the spokes after getting a good 5 or 10 quality backlinks to each.

Also, I don’t recommend linking the spokes together, like most link wheels. Instead, I usually liek to build more of a ’star’ or ’snowflake’ formation. This reduces the change that Google will identify it as a reciprocal formation and discount any SEO benefit it might pass.

And, to be honest, Angela’s links won’t hurt anything, they just won’t help much (or at all) without time and effort. They might help get sites indexed quickly, but not for moving sites up on a SERP.

Daniel McGonagle on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 12:05 pm


Chris, I recommend link wheels of a sort, too.

What I recommend is not making full blown sites, though but rather, getting links form decent authority sites, which usually means article directories.

I’d rather send 5-10 links to an EZA article to boos tit in the SERPS and get it to page 1, (which would take me all of 5 minutes) ratherthan build yet another squidoo lens or hub page to wetpaint etc…

Here’s something I wrote to a subscriber recently:

Guest blogging is def. the best way to get powerful backlinks.

Here’s a way to get something similar to guest posts on good sites:

Write UAW articles, see which sites show up in SERPS with your uaws, contact them and offer a brand new 100% unique article if their site is really good has PR and traffic. I think LFE sites would be good if they got built up to get indexed and PR… like having your own network of sites.

With truly competitive niches like insurance i always tell people to build sites on domains dedicated to the long tail to corral the easier traffic and to use these sites to refer traffic to main sites.

So build out some lenses, hubs, EZAs, and/or long-tail kw-based domains to corral the long tail and send them onwards to the main site. Also set up a twitter link wheel too using twitter profile and twitterfeed.com and have all your mini sites feeds tied into twitter feed to post to twitter profile automatically.

http://twitter.com/ManduraLeader is a PR5 profile here, getting blurbs from 5 diff sites,all autopilot backlinking. Automate your twitter following with twitteradder and contact those followers you added based on kws in profiles and kws in bio then tweet with them and network your way into guest posts or articles with them.

End email:

This was just for getting guest author posts from same-themed, relevant, PageRanked, decent trafficked, top-quality sites.

I also consider usage of RSS aggregators, blog catalog, Twitter etc.. as essential parts for automated link wheels since they’re 100% automated after they’re set up.

AdhocAds on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 12:21 pm


Sounds like you and I are on the same page. I recommend practically the same thing, although you rely on the articles directories and spinner a little heavier than I do. I actually rely a little more on longtail domains.

I’m not a very big believer in LFE, but I do use sites like Tweetlater, etc, extensively, for a constant stream of direct traffic.

Daniel McGonagle on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 1:13 pm


Chris, I recommend long tail domains as well. LFE sites would be good if we could find a way to automated the RSS submissions for each post placed on those sites to auto-promote them, SEO-wise.

I wrote a quick post on some link wheels automated and recommend practices for developing what you probably do for your clients/employer here

I’m sure I left something out there but it basically emphasizes what we do, effective known-to-work methods.

The reason I recommended the UAW method was not just for hordes of backlinks but to get a bit of networking going on to develop an avenue for guest author posts.

AdhocAds on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 1:32 pm


I think automated feeds are great for bookmarking sites, like twitter, Dig, and Reddit (interestingly enough, I get more traffic from Reddit than from all of the other combined), but I don’t consider these sites as part of a wheel, but rather part of my ‘pinging’ system.

For my link wheels, I like to have completely unique content, with each spoke getting a new article about once per week. I guess you could use a UAW here, but in my opinion, they output articles that are difficult to read. I’d rather just pay a content writer $4 per article nad have something well written and unique. After all, If we can’t make up $4 back from a unique article then we’re probably in the wrong game.

David N on Tue, 10th Nov 2009 3:37 pm


I have read the comments and this is basically what I have been saying since the beginning. Without promoting the profile pages these links are worthless. I never claimed Linking Loophole was a magic tool. Like every other link I throw out there, these links require more work to be effective.

The same thing goes for linkwheels as well. Throw those out there and don’t promote them and your time has just been wasted. This is just the way link building works folks. You HAVE to be willing to put the work in or you will not be successful.

As for LFE, I make a serious effort to get these sites indexed and I do submit these site’s rss feeds as well as a number of other things to get these links to stick. Again, put in the work to make these links work for your site.

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