I did another review and test of Build My Rank again, this time I went over what the case study would be with Build My Rank owner, and outsourced everything to BMR’s staff for $2.00/credit, which is tantamount to $2.00/link.
The reason we did things this way is to:
- make sure we’re using writers who know the BMR system inside and out,
- have articles written that will get 100% approvals
- to ensure that the case study is a fair and valid test of the service’s effectiveness
The Build My Rank pure test, Part 2
3 sites, on aged domains at least 1 year old, some were 4 years old.
Site 1- Website is trying to rank for a celebrity name, whilst not having anything to do with that celebrity.
Competition is the movie site IMDB.com, a celebrity fan site, a music download site and some other “authority” sites…
Current ranking pre-BMR: #7/8, Page 1
We’re sending 40 BMR snippets/links to this
Is this a fair test? Yes, we both thought so, since domain we’re working on has KWs in the domain, site is aged, is already page 1, has existing links to it, and momentum.
Also, if BMR links are powerful, then even rising 2 spots up page 1 one with impressive,since it’s a well-known fact that rising up page 1 for SERPs is harder than getting to page 1 in the first place.
After 30 days: please be patient, bookmark this url, and note the day on which this post was made
Site 2- aged domain, currently ranked page 2, #11-14 overall for a 3 word keyphrase
Competition isn’t super-tough, therefore I think that 40 BMR snippets should get this site not just to page 1, but to page 1, #4 or 5 overall.
Is this a fair test? We think so, because competition isn’t that tough, #1 ranking is unattainable with just 40 links, and domain in question here doesn’t have all 3 keywords in the domain, so a good test, we think.
Site 3- I have a 1 1/2 year old domain with very few links to it, whose main url dropped out of the SERPs a few months ago when lots of sites got slapped for whatever reason.
Domain has 4 keywords in it, so we’re generating:
- 10 BMRs for long -tail 4 keyword phrase (ranked # 262 now, I expect 10 links to get it back to top 4)
- 20 for 3 keyword phrase (not ranked)
- 20 for another 3 keyword phrase (not ranked at all, disappeared)
- 50 for 2 keyword phrase (currently ranked #416)
- 90 for tougher 2 keyword phrase (not ranked)
Is this a fair test? Yes, because I had an older, yet similar themed and optimized site which rebounded form nowhere rankings-land to #2 and #4 for same 3 kw phrase being tested here, and the 2, 2 kw phrases are ranked page 3 and page 5 (and rising thanks to LinxBoss).
Both of these similarly themed sites got bounced out of the SERPs a few months ago, and since new backlinks got the “other” site back on top quickly, then this site should do the same, especially with BMR’s allegedly powerful links.
It will take 30 days before I can come back and update this post with the results, so here’s a few more things you should know about Build My Rank in the meantime:
- They don’t accept spun content per se, but very well-spun content that reads well will get accepted, but only IF it’s so well-spun it doesn’t even seem like spun content. BMR Admin is more concerned about the quality of his network and service than he is with pleasing people by delivering 100s of links that devalue his network/service.
- The network is, indeed a high PR network, but your articles won’t gain PR from Page Rank passing down from these domains towards your articles. The network is 750 high Page Rank domains/sites spread out over 250 IP addresses.
- BMR content is achieving close to 100% indexing rate, and they go to some extra effort of the back end of things to ensure that all content gets indexed. as was aforementioned, he cares about his network, and getting every single one of his sites’ urls indexed means its not gonna be like Blog Blueprint, where 15-50 posts get published to a site daily, then get indexed as your post get pushed off the home page.
- The pricing model was seem weird or confusing at first, but suffice to say,you can still get it for 59/month once you’re an existing member, via free trial or whatever. The owner has hinted at future price increases or plan changes; he might raise price to 99/month which I begged him not to do because it will become another LinkVana again, ie. a service that costs a lot time-wise and money-wise to use, but I have no control over that.
- Last, but not least… I am providing an affiliate link below because I’ve heard good things from other knowledgeable marketers about Build My Rank, and since they have a free trial offer, there’s no sacrificing of integrity on my part if I show you an affiliate link whilst still being undecided on how or where I would rank this service (thumbs-up, thumbs-down, top 4? etc…)
Go to Build My Rank Site for free trial (this is an affiliate link, for which I will be compensated if you decide to continue to use the service after the free trial period)
Continued updates… Day 1 or 2 of articles/links going live:
Site 1- Ranked #6 on page 1 (up from 7/8)
Site 2- Ranked #9 on page 1 (up from top of page 2, #12 overall on average)
One week later…
Site 1- same as before
Site 2- #10, did a dance, needs more links and time…to rise up
Site 3-
Amazing results a little over one month later:
Site 1 – Page 1 #6 for competitive term (up against a celbrrity name here)
Site 2- Page 1, #6, and it’s exactly wher eI expected BMR to put this site, rankings-wise
At the risk of boring you to death with site details, I still want to let you know how much went on behind the scenes for this test especially with site #3.
Site #3 is in home business niche, had only 85 backlinks to the home page according to Yahoo Site Explorer before we did the test. I had a similarly themed and optimized website on the same webhosting IP address and some SEO theoreticians say that it can interfere with both sites’ rankings if they vying for rankings for the same competitive terms yet reside in same “location: ie, IP address. So as part of this test I moved one of the sites to a different web host and IP address just to make sure this “theory” didn’t affect the testing we’re doing here.
Site 3, url #3
Page 1, #4 and #5 for TWO medium comp. 3 keyword phrases
Page 1 for long tail keyphrase with 150 million results in Google, but is a long tail phrase in my opinion.
Page 3 for an extremely competitive, generic make money form home kind of term, not bad considering this is almost as hard to rank for as the “make money online” term…
TEST IS OVER… Ranked Page 1 for everything but the most extremely competitive terms
I HIGHLY recommend this service and have rated it the #2 best service to use right now, the links are still coming in from the test, we’re seeing lots of surprising movement in the SERPs for even the harder terms tested, and seeing myself on page 3 for an extremely competitive 2 word term impressed me enough to deem it worthy of a #2 ranking as far as recommended services to use…
Go to Build My Rank Site for free trial (this is an affiliate link, for which I will be compensated if you decide to continue to use the service after the free trial period)
Last update and brief soliloquy: You hear people talking about quality of links versus quantity, well that’s kind of hard to test so all I can say is that these a quality links in effect and source, meaning they’re quality links for the only reason that matters to me: they increase rankings, but they’re also quality links because they’re using 100% unique content and links come from high quality network with good sites.
These test we did was pretty comprehensive, we spent 500 dollars on it, and moving forward I’ll be doing spot-checks of this service form time to time, but will be using it for more business-related reasons soon not just for testing purposes. In other words, I’ll be using this as part of the firepower available to me, and used by me, when I wanna throw everything I got towards ranking a term.
Also, people worry about overly aggressive link building and “sandboxes” but also want to see results quickly, Build My Rank is a way to do the “slow and steady wins the race” thing, however, results and rankings increases won’t be slow just your link build up.
October 5, 2010: Ongoing testing (since this is a service I’ll be relying on more and more in the future)
URL 1- #5, Page 1 for competitive term, no links to it now on active basis – 20 BMRs
URL 2- #19, or bottom of page 2, minimal linking to it now
URL 3 – from previous test, we got a url dancing around on Page 1, between #4 and 8, so we’ll send some more BMRs (10) to shore things up a bit…
Go to Build My Rank Site for free trial (this is an affiliate link, for which I will be compensated if you decide to continue to use the service after the free trial period)
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Hi Daniel,
After how many posts is BMR likely to become ineffective for a single domain? I recall reading somewhere that there are approximately 750 sites in the BMR network. Even after a specific number of posts is it still beneficial to continue writing posts for individual pages of a site?
Aly, all I can say is, cross that bridge if/when you come to it
One of your comments about 1way links service was how long it takes to build links. I wonder why this is not the same for this service. If you pay the 2.00 for their link writing that gets expensive. Time wise its expensive. I recoil from the cost of both in this service.
Paul, it’s a totally different type of service, its total opposite of what the 1waylinks services websites are, junk donor blogs, so it’s an apples and oranges comparison there. And quality links will almost always comes with a price tag of time, or 2 bucks a pop. I’d much rather pay 2 dollars for a quality link than spend 10 minutes writing and submitting an article to get submitting to junk donor blog network which eventually gets everything linking to my site de-indexed.
Hi,
My experience with BMR has not been so good in terms of the posts rejected by them. Out of around 80 submitted so far they have approved less than 20 and have rejected the rest gibing reasons like ” Post make no sense, poor grammar etc. ” Though i have seen their sites. The content on the sites is what i have submitted but i just do not understand why my posts are getting rejected.
Are they trying to push people to use their writers and make up for the price difference. At this rate, it makes sense to go for UAW or Linx Boss.
What are your suggestions?
I’ve been writing my own just to see if it works before I spend a lot of money on it. I’ve written about 50 150word posts and I haven’t had a single one rejected yet. And I HATE writing and I’m not very good at it either. I’ve also outsourced a few and they seem much better quality than what I’m able to produce. So I guess there’s a partial answer to your question.
BMR rejects my posts as well. I believe they want to you to use their paid service. My posts have far better and more useful content than the posts I pay for through them.
That being said, the links I get from them are very useful. Far, better than any UAW links. Perhaps other users are much more successful than I at getting their posts accepted by BMR.
However, I believe they are purposely steering their users into ‘buying’ posts from them.
Bottom line: BMR is kind of inconvenient to use, and it gets a little expenseive, but the results are good.
Right that’s pretty much what I wrote on the main recommended page of this site, it can get costly but is worth it. Also, the more knowledgeable and savvy webmasters and link builders are actually somewhat satisfied and respectful of the fact that BMR is protective of their network and what goes on it.
Think GIGO, garbage in, garbage out….
I think the problem here is that if they are attracting users using low price as a bait then they should not try to push users towards hiring writers from them. This is not a good tactic in the long term. Problem is they are not accepting good content.
However, after my rant here, they accepted most of my posts which were resubmitted. Also, it is a fact that some posts on their sites do not confirm to grammar rules and do not make any sense. To be fair, this is not true of majority of the content on their sites.
Also, i do not think that a link from BMR is worth more than that from other services. What i have seen is that due to popularity of the service, one’s content remains on the front page ( and only the front page has PR ) for only one day. After that, it is as good as a link from a UAW site as it is pushed to a separate post page.
And they do not have any niche specific sites ( as such networks demand ) and their word press sites are more like article directories,which is nothing but UAW sites.
I do believe that their network is worth the money spent but they should not be using such tactics to increase their earnings.
I honestly don’t see what you guys are talking about. I haven’t had 1 post rejected and my posts aren’t that great in quality. They don’t have any spelling or grammar issues but it isn’t some high quality stuff either.
I do want to also say I would rather them be really picky on their content to keep the value of the links in the system high. If the content starts to deteriorate, so will Google’s trust in the site(s) and then the whole system will collapse.
Hey everyone thanks for the feedback on both ends. I spoke to BMR Admin and he gave me some inside scoop on things going on (think serial refunders and serial trial takers). So if aren’t sure if BMR is good or not then take the trial and target a medium or low competition keyword on a url that is properly optimized and see what happens. It’s risk-free that way and 10 posts is good enough of a test for such a scenario.
In meantime, I’m closing down the ability to post comments here because I know how well this service works as do many others. If you need help using it better contact the support desk or just read up on on page optimization factors here
Hi, just wanted to chime in with regards to the rejected posts. There has to be some reason. We have about 200+ posts in the system, all written by myself and 2 others, and not a single one has been rejected. We’ve never purchased any articles or outsourced them. I did do a test where I had 3 articles, partially spun, just to see if they’re paying attention – and all 3 were rejected (I wasn’t counting these into the approved number of posts, because they were spun, which is something they state they won’t allow)
So i don’t think there is any “push” so to speak to use their outsourcing service at all. Just my 2 cents.
As someone who’s benefited greatly from BMR’s quality network, I think I have to lend my voice…
I have over 2280 live posts on BMR and they were all written by me (So it’s NOT really true that they reject posts in order to compel you to buy posts from them. They reject them because they are NOT so good). In over 2300 posts submitted, I’ve had only one post rejected that I considered unfair (But then that could be attributed to some other errors).
If you really take the time to write something worthwhile, your posts will be accepted. That’s my experience. If you are looking for the best links out there, BMR is the way to go. I just hope John maintains the quality of his network for long. I’ve used Linkvana which costs twice more but BMR is far superior.
If you know a bit about competitive niches then you certainly know that the insurance niche is as hard as it gets. So any network that gives serious upward movements with tens of posts in such a niche should be treated with some respect. You should aim at giving them high quality posts. That’s how such this network would last for long. It’s in our collective interest.
Add to this the fact that you are dealing with a guy that doesn’t just with his network. Send a mail on a weekend and see how quickly he responds. I will gladly remain on this service for twice the monthly fee as long as John maintains this quality.
I have read some of the posts they created for me. Starter is right. Some don’t even have great grammar and the content is not valuable information. If what starter says about the value of the links is true, then BMR is not probably not worth the cost compared to UAW. I’m don’t know enough to corroborate his statements. However, I do know that BMR links do get indexed at a very high rate.
Also, I am almost 100% convinced that they steer users into buying their posts in order to be more profitable. It’s just not feasible for most users to spend the time and effort it takes to get posts accepted by BMR, and even if you outsource, most of those will be rejected. Making it a somewhat expensive service any way you look at it. Either in money spent or time and effort spent.
Yes, as far as indexing rate is concerned, it is true that they are able to achieve close to 100% indexing based on the limited posts published by me. Also, what makes their network powerful is their Links 4 links strategy i.e. they book mark each post on their network which in turn boosts the link power. however same can be achieved through either a desktop bookmarking solution or something like viral book marking.
And the links can come from article marketing robot
I don’t get my posts directly from BMR, and at $2.50 a shot now, I say it’s crazy for you to either — that’s just me. I outsource to other writers and do them myself as well. Bigger projects = outsource. Smaller Projects = myself.
Out of the 80+ posts I have ordered from them, not one of them has been rejected, so I second the notion that BMR is NOT trying to force you to outsource posts through them.
To get approved, the post just has to make sense and be grammatically correct. It doesn’t have to provide “value” — it’s 150 words after all and it’s mashed on a page with dozens of different topics and “opinions”. No one is going to use BMR snippets as their main source of information for anything.
Sean, it is quite possible I have approached BMR incorrectly. I think I get it now. The BMR posts are not meant to necessarily contain valuable content. Just to be original and grammatically correct. I’m used to posting articles which I always make sure have very good and useful content.
I’ll follow your suggestions and write some of my own posts again. I now believe my approach to using BMR has been incorrect.
I don’t want to disparage BMR too much. Despite my criticisms, I do find BMR to be quite useful. I am quite confident that their service does help quite a bit in the SERPs and that is the goal, so overall, I still believe they provide a good service. It’s just in this competitive game we are in, we’re always looking for the most effective and cost effective way of reaching our goals.
I get the impression that Starter believes that links from Article Marketing Robot ( which I own and am very impressed with) can be almost as useful as BMR links if you run them through a feed aggregator and book mark them yourself to get them indexed. I am not sure if this is a valid statement or not. Perhaps someone with more knowledge than myself can make an informed comment regarding this.
If his suggestion about using AMR is valid, it would follow that using AMR and getting their live links indexed yourself, would be the most cost effective approach.
My gut instinct, is that BMR links would be considerably more valuable, but I could be mistaken and am open to being corrected on this.
Hi Daniel, I noticed that BMR is closed, you wouldnt happen to know when they will be opening there doors again? Keep up the good work.
He said 2 weeks.
Thanks,
Dan
Sweet, didn’t see it was closed until now. I’m kind of glad they closed it to keep the integrity of the network up. More users = more posts, more saturation, more links, the less value everyone gets out of it.
I’m noticing that my BMR posts get indexed but many of them don’t stay indexed. Has anyone else noticed this?
John, I have not noticed this, however, I haven’t checked. Ask Dan about this. I would be curious as to his response.
I don’t spend time checking this stuff, I just order 10 articles via them, see how rankings improve, if at all, if not I order 10 more and if nothing positive happens after that, then I start wondering about ANY tool/service’s effectiveness. Sorry I can’t be more explicit here John, but I just don’t check this stuff, or would spend countless hours assessing this kind of thing… I just look for results and if there aren’t any then I move on to another service. So far it’s worked pretty well
Dan:
Great site! I tried to click your links for Build My Rank, but it only displays an error page. I’d like to go through your link so you get the fee since it was your site and research that convinced me to try it.
Thanks for the attempt, I guess BMR is/was going through a DNS change, should be fine by now.
Thanks,
Dan
Hi Dan,
Any news on BMR opening there doors?
Thanks again
Yes, the link is working now. Thanks!
Well, it didn’t matter anyway. Site says it is closed to new members…
The key to BMR is definitely outsourcing in my opinion. I can do perhaps 20, 150 word snippets each day if I really push myself, but that means ignoring all the other aspects of SEO and link building.
Paying $2.00 or $2.50 per post, for me anyway, is financial suicide; especially when I need about 15-20 posts per day. That said, I’m working to outsource this kind of thing for around $1 per post, and I have even heard of people getting for .50 per post.
The best part about outsourcing is you can have the posts submitted directly to BMR through a writers account — meaning I don’t have to edit or review it
I’m super picky about writing and would probably reject most cheaply outsourced articles and posts. I NEVER had success with outsourcing articles cause they would never meet my expectations, even at .02 per word. I’d always spend more time editing and reviewing them and I’d wind up rewriting the whole thing.
With BMR though, outsourcers don’t have to get my approval, they have to meet BMR’s approval, which is far more convenient for me. If the outsourcer doesn’t past my test — 5 posts must be approved by BMR — then I’ll simply dump them and move onto someone else.
So, I guess my point is OUTSOURCE this work if you really want to make the best of BMR. That, or just make sure you can write 20+ posts per day.
-Sean
Hello Dan,
I was wondering if it might be possible for you to set up a back door into BMR? Similar to what you did in the past for LinxBoss and BLS.
Maybe your trying that already, nonetheless I’m sure all your blog readers will appreciate that very much, I know I sure would.
Thanks a bunch,
Tony
Tony, I wish I could that… would make me (feel) special, but they should be opening their doors very shortly he said so if you can hang on for a bit longer and get as many crappy links as you can to your sites, then the BMR quality links will give that extra push you may need, much easier and faster when they do open up again.
but I will ask about the backdoor anyway though, to retain what little humility I have left (when he says no, lol)
Thanks Dan. much appreciated
Tony
Is the service still available. Why did it stop?
Hi Dan,
Any news of when they are opening their doors?
I wanted to join before finding this site, but no update from them. I then signed up for Linkvana and found your site. Would you NOT recommend Linkvana whatsoever?
Mid-December. Might wanna look at Article Marketing Robot and Article Ranks in the meantime
I wanted to get in but doors are closed. Please arrange a backdoor entry for few of us. I would appreciate that.
Hi again Dan,
Have you heard anything from BMR? It’s been closed for a while, wondering if it will be re-opening any time soon.
Happy Holidays
Tony
Your comment prompted me to ask him… He said he’s still sorting out some new hosting issues, and trying to apply a permanent fix to it instead of band aids like he’s done in the past. Get Article Marketing robot in the meantime, before price goes up
I’m in charge of SEO work for my employers websites and have been waiting for BMR to open again.
I know its a recurring question, but any further updates? Last I heard was mid december which has since passed.
Eager to get in on this!
I received an email today stating BMR is open for membership again.
Are you still seeing good results with this service? I’ve been using it religiously for about 6 months now – and things were going good until about a month ago. Seems every site I used with this service (about 10 total) has been slapped a bit (lost #1 spot now on page 2-3, or bottom of page 1). Some of the sites have been on page 1 or #1 for several months to over a year too. I thought this was just a temporary movement, but it’s been this way for a few weeks now. Maybe Google is catching on to their network – who knows. Just what I’m experiencing at the moment though.
Hey Adam, I’m having the same problem, but my sites were just hit yesterday. That’s 13 sites that lost there first page rankings, some of them moved to 2nd and 3rd page and the ones that were ranked #2 went to bottom of first page. I’ve also noticed that 10 of my posts that were submitted are now on PR0 sites,(that’s out of 220 posts) which weren’t before. Now mind you I haven’t been a member of BMR for as long as some of you, so I’m not sure if this has anything to do with BMR. Also, there has been a new Google update on Jan 27/11 which targets scraped content sites, that still doesn’t explain what happened to mine yesterday. Maybe it’s just temporary.
Daniel, is it a good idea to keep submitting articles to BMR, when you are faced with something like this?
Thanks and I hope we all recover soon from this madness.
For one of my sites that dropped in rankings (went from #1 to #5), I personally know the site owners of the competitor sites. I asked them if they have done much backlinking to their sites, and they haven’t. For that particular site all I’ve done is the 1-3 posts per day BMR thing for the past few months. It has stayed #1 until a couple weeks ago. I’ve also noticed a lot of the sites in their network are dropping in PR, and I have manually checked the indexation rate of a lot of my posts and some are dropping out of the index.
Maybe it’s a sign of things to come with these blog farm networks, who knows. I think I’ll stick to articles/press releases and maybe profiles in the meantime until the dust settles.
I’ve also noticed the same problem. We were holding top 4 positions for competitive keyword phrases and suddenly they have all dropped to the bottom of the first page or are now on the second. Has BMR been slapped by Google? Is it time to jump ship?
Hey guys, the same thing happened to me! I’ve got hundred of posts on BMR. My keyword rankings dropped as well! Sounds like BMR is messing us up somehow. It really is unfortunate, it took time, and money to put up 300 posts on BMR.
I think you guys are jumping to some pretty big conclusions.
There’s definitely an algo change going on right now effecting all rankings. To say this issue is limited to BMR is a bit of a stretch though.
If Google had slapped BMR wouldn’t you think many of our sites would’ve been de-indexed? We monitor this stuff religiously and our indexing rates are as high as ever. They are virtually 100% month to date. Things are working like a finely oiled machine right now.
And yes about 100 (around 5% of our network size) of our sites lost PR in the last update, but what folks don’t see are the increases. The last two updates we had more sites with an increase in PR then dropped. And there were several sites that moved up as high as PR6. Many went from PR3 to PR4 and some from PR4 to PR5. All in all the “value” of the network increased quite a bit with this last update.
Just an insiders point of view.
Any rankings droppage cant really be attributed to this one service, but rather an overall “sea change” temporary or otherwise that’s going on right now.
Chill for a bit, add more content and/or links, preferably more content.
Give the search engines what they want, good content and solid links, sounds boring and non-exciting I know, but that is always the healing process/solution for anything when algorithms change or other things affect your rankings.
You’re right it is a stretch, and there seem to be some changes going on with the algo on sites that haven’t budged in several months. So something at Google is changing! However, I have seen networks like this get targeted by Google – so it was just an observation and worry of mine.
I do have sites that strictly use different services for testing purposes (strictly linxboss, strictly BMR, stricly articles, etc) – and the ones that strictly use BMR have been affected the most. That doesn’t mean BMR is at fault – perhaps Google is targeting sites that only use that type of link – who knows with the big G. There’s so many factors at play, it’s almost impossible to know what’s really going on.
Didn’t mean to start a big “sky is falling” scare, I’m sure the BMR network is fine – but wanted to see if others were seeing the same changes with their sites. Makes us feel better if we’re not the only ones =)
Adam, no sweat man, this happens all the time in SEO. when a service’s homepage url is inaccessible, people think the whole shebang went down, as happens sometimes with MyLinkclub, Linxboss etc…
I have also seen some of my “strictly BMR, LB, etc..” sites plummet a bit, and it doesn’t have anything to do with age, or amount of content or anything really.
I ONLY use one service for a site to test the service out, but it stands to reason that none of us want to be wholly reliant upon just one service, and one type of link for boosting/supporting/ranking our digital assets, right?
So, a word of caution in general to anyone who reads this comment and many others like it in the future:
Use multiple methods for getting multiple link types before, during, and after your site are ranked… We’re all investing time, money and other resources into our sites, so it also stands to reason that we would want to protect and stabilize our investments by shoring up the kinds of links we have via other link acquisition methods, and types. (NOTE: Seems like I’m reading way too many investment books these days; I look at everything now as a sort of investment and/or asset producing ROI
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Hi Dan,
So do you mean using different types of services all at once?
Like BMR, LinxBoss, article submissions etc? If so, when do you slow down? Is it once the keyword gets to the second page or first page bottom? The way I have been doing it is by using one service to get me to a certain point (usually second page or bottom of first) than a second service to take it to the top, when I get to the point I drop the first service however.
Boy oh Boy… I am a lost lamb!! What are you going to do but laugh.
Hi Tony, not necessarily different services, but different types of links and different styles of link acquisition (automated, manual, rented etc…). What you’ve done really isn’t so bad, since some services are good at rank maintenance, others offer starter links to pad your link volume, others truly do increase your relevancy, some will bring in direct traffic, and so on…
Learn from this, how can you bullet-proof your rankings?
Start slower, get better links, focus more of traffic-driving links (decently ranked article on a directory for example), or maybe (gosh, dare I say it!)…. focus more on the site content and build a truly valuable site to the readers, something the search engines can’t help but love anyways, then give it a boost with backlinks to propel your awesome content to its “rightful place” atop the rankings…
Yes, something is definitely going on with BMR. All the competitive keywords I worked so hard to rank for have suddenly dropped in rank.
What a bummer!
Contacted BMR support. Asked them what was going on. Here’s there reply:
Nothing to our knowledge. Our indexing rates are running very strongly, we haven’t had any sites deindexed, etc.
For my own domains in BMR I’ve had some rising, some holding steady and others dropping.
Furthermore I’m noticing a lot of position swapping among the niches I follow. I think we’re seeing a google dance and algo change.
Best regards,
John
BuildMyRank.com
Hey Adam, I’ve been looking for a good press release software program, do you submit your manually or via software? I’m just curious and maybe you can be of assistance? Do you use AMR for this?
Thanks
I use magic submitter for PR stuff.
Thanks Adam for that, much appreciated
Rankings for my website have dropped too, the only difference is that I don´t use BMR at all. Great reviews Daniel !
Thanks for chiming in and for the feedback Marcos, any commonalities/common denominators with the sites that dropped on you?
Say what you will about BMR but it really does work guys, I recently sold my first “real” effort at a website for $3,000 on flippa.
How did I do this? Solely BMR posts! Keep in mind I had over 400 of them, but just keep chugging away and you WILL see results.
Good luck!
Gentlemen ( and ladies): Looks like we’ve sorted out this BMR controversy. I suppose the conclusion is BMR is ok, Google changed their algo.
I do have a question however, that only partially pertains to BMR.
I use the following to build links to my site:
UAW,AR,BMR,MAN,Linx Boss, Rank Builder for Web 2.0s.
DFB for xrumer crappy links, Nuclear Link Blaster for higher PR profile links, scrape box for blog posts
Also, various indexing tools: BMD,Back Link Booster,Link Licious, Back Link energizer.
I am still getting my butt kicked by my major competitor. According to Majestic SEO I have more links than him, however, the number of domains linking to my root domain ( according to Majestic) is only 1K, whereas he has 2K.
I believe this is causing me to get crushed in the SERPs (maybe not, but that’s what I think).
I end up getting linked to by the same domain repeatedly. What can I do to find more sources for links. Getting links from the same domains over and over does not seem to help.
I’m hoping Dan may see this and have some insight. I list it here because this same dilemma my pertain to others.
my domain: rapidwtloss.net
competitors: shedyourweight.com
Whatever, this competitor is doing, he/she is doing it well. Dominates for their terms of choice.
He’s kicking your butt because his domain is very old and established. I just checked seologs domain age checker and it’s showing your age as 9 months and his as 7yrs 5 months. I’ve done extensive research on this and domain age plays a hhhhuuuuugggeee factor. I do rank higher than older sites, but I have to outlink them by a large margin. Your always going to be at a disadvantage until your site starts to get establish and trust behind it in Google’s eyes. It’s also got quite a bit more content / pages which seems to be playing more of a role lately in getting ranked higher.
Adam, thanks
James he’s right, and we can’t BUY age if we already own the sites, so best best if to work on the on-page SEO and fill in the missing parts here, the age will come the trust will come over time, and getting a more diverse group of root domain backlinks will help, too.
Basically, whatever the differences are between the 2 sites, or yours and your competitors, close the gap however you can. Better on-page SEO is good for a few upticks in the SERPs, pages or spots all depending on where you’re at right now.
Do wonder wheels stuff, re-examine your site structure, look at stuff like keywordlsispy.com kind of tools to see where you could improve your on-page SEO and content. a lot cna be fixed by onsite tweaks, trust me on that one, please.
Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your input. I’ll continue to work on it. When I first created the site, I had absolutely no clue of what would constitute the best on page site structure. I have a much better idea now. However, I am very reluctant to rename and/or destroy pages that I already have thousands of links to, however, I can alter their content.
I should not have chosen such a competitive niche to begin with, again I was totally ignorant. The only benefit to me is that I was forced to learn a lot about SEO to even begin to compete.
This knowledge will be very useful in my next endeavour.
BTW, the funny thing is that just by reading and following the content on this site, I do a lot more than many so-called SEO companies.
It’s kind of sad, but they are supposed to be experts, and they charge clients a fair amount of money, but most of them don’t even implement a fraction of the methods and techniques that are explained on this site.
These companies by and large don’t do multi-tiered linking and they don’t do a whole lot to get the links they do create indexed. This is a crazy field.
Would you say BMR survived the Google algo change? Isn’t it a “content farm?”
Build My Rank
Are you planning a change in BMR structure after the last google farmer update. I don’t know if the network has been affected from this update but it is not difficult to guess, if not affected now, it will be in a not far future.
Hi Daniel, really impressive site you have here.
I am relatively new to IM and am on a very very strict $$ and time budget. I have a wide variety of backlinks but they all seem to be on PR0 pages (root domain is higher PR). Would I be right in saying that BMR backlinks are oh higher PR pages? And would Buildmyrank be a solid investment right now to be the backbone of my backlinking efforts, especially considering the new farmer update from google?
Cheers.
William, your posts will eventually be on PR 0 pages with BMR, but might be on main page of a high PR domain for a little while.
BMR is #1 recommended service to use right now, for this type of backlinking
I used linkvana as a part of my link building campaign. Around 40% of my links were from linkvana. Rest from article marketing, blog commenting, directory submission, etc. All my main keywords were holding first 5 spots. After using linkvana 6 months all my pages dropped to second and third pages. I’m afraid this will repeat with BMR as well.
I’ve used Linkvana for well over 2 years, and used it to primarily promote 5 different sites that all have top rankings for their primary keyword, no drop…Actually, some went up a few notches for other related keyword phrases after the latest farmer update, so I’m all good!
Been using BMR for about 3 or 4 months now, and have gotten very good results so far, and it’s MUCH cheaper over all for me to use than Linkvana, that place is rip of joint by comparison! In my humble opinion of course.
I believe your issue is probably a matter of link diversity, which is why you are getting hit these days.
I achieved link diversity buy using a number of different methods;
1. Blasted all sites/blog posts I was promoting with Brute Forces Evo II (not recommend – over priced for what it does, but does work with repeated runs which I have done.)
2. Article marketing (usually to 1,500+ article directors using the Best Spinner + Article Marketing Robot).
3. Book marking using Bookmarking Demon.
4. Creation of parasites, feeder sites using Seo Link Robot and as of now Senuke X.
5. Promotion of those parasites via RSS + profile promotion using Mega Link Blaster. (Many of these parasites are indexed and kicking around on lower page 1 or 2 of Google)
6. Submission of all RSS feeds + Parasite/ and Article Urls created into the Backlink Booster system for further indexing and reboosting.
and finally,
7. Outsourcing of BMR links.
As I said, this level of link diversity seems to have worked pretty well for me, the farmer update only increase many of my positions, the other top positions remained unchanged.
I would look more at your overall strategy then simply worrying about BMR, or even Linkvana for that matter, it’s probably more a reflection of your overall link building system.
Just my 2 cents.
Hi Dan,
Thank you for your great posts, I think I need your advice on using BMR links. Thank you advance!
I have three sites using BMR links now, and these sites are all new(1-3 months old only) and rich-KWs in domain, I added less than 10 posts to each of these three domains – one post per day, but then the target urls disappeared in SEPRs, my question is, does BMR links only suit for old domains? Or, how to use BMR links on new sites?
Thanks, Dan, I REALLY hope I can get some advice from you.
PS. Only the urls that got links from BMR disappeared from google SEPRs, the other urls that haven’t got links from BMR work well.
Steer clear of BMR! This type of link farm is exactly what Google wised up with the Panda/ Farmer update to the search algo. I did use BMR for 3 months and I’m paying the price for it! 37 Keywords that made me money of which I used BMR have disappeared from page one to -300 or more positions. Why pay money for services only to devastate your sites rankings? Steer clear of BMR and any of these semi-automated spam programs it will hurt your efforts. And no I’m not a supporter of any competing service nor do I endorse any SEO product etc… I wish somebody could have knocked some sense into me earlier. Playing by the rules is the way to go with googles new algo
Thanks for the feedback Derrick, if you cease and desist with all link building efforts now, after your sites dropped that’s exactly ONE of the things these “Google shuffles” are looking to unearth, via scare tactics and blo gposts and what-not. I surely DO hope your sites recover, and yes Google is “onto” some networks, and this has been the case for a really long time, but BMR become my #1 recommendation AFTER the last slew of algo changes that affected the effectiveness of other services and BMR was one of the few that seemed unaffected, probably because they only accept unique content.
Linkvana 2.0 is working well right now, but since they’re doing some interlinking in their network, they may get found out too, BMR doesn’t do that, is my point so it’s one of the safest options right now for this type o flink building.
I suggest you try socialadr.com, I’ve heard surprisingly good things about it
Hi Daniel.
Great website. Some really good reviews you’ve put up.
Can you go into a bit more detail about socialadr.com and why you’d recommend it? I’m a bit skeptical about social bookmarking in general as I suspect the quality of the links are very low.
Cheers,
Ed
Hi Ed, thanks for the feedback. All I know about socialadr is anecdotal 3d party feedback from a really trusted source, therefore I’ve gone and got myself an account there to see how it works, and if it works for the sites I use it on. Review on that is pending
Daniel,
After Panda, what are the networks that remain your top recommendations? From an overall look at your site, I believe that the ones that used to score well earlier were BMR, AR, AMR, UAW, BLS. LinxBoss and maybe Backlink Genie.
If you were to post a list now, possibly ranked, what would that look like, given that Panda has been implemented now?
So it used to be $59 flat, but now they charge based on the number of domains you want to add into account? Does that apply for old members as well, or only knew people signing up?
Hi Daniel,
subscribed BMR through your affiliate links. i am in 15 days trial. so far everything good. wanna paid subscription right of the bat so i would like to know what compensated you can provide before making purchase.
Thanks
Daniel,
I too subscribed to BMR solely based on your recommendation about 4 months ago. Your no BS approach to reviews may not make you the most money but I appreciate it. I noticed your comment back in April where you still stood by BMR even after the last algo change. Do you still think BMR is OK to use regularly?
Yes, I do think it’s still OK to use. I admit I’m sometimes slow ot update the recommended services part of this site, but BMR is still tops for right now, and hopefully for the foreseeable future, too
Hi, Daniel,
that’s great to post so many objective comments here. I am a newbie in SEO filed and I just set up a site in April, 2011, but the domain only 6 months old, I find the domain you are testing is at least one year age.
so I am wondering if I could use BMR and LinxBoss because I recall somewhere I read that If a site, all of sudden, starts to get tons of backlinks – this can looks suspicious to search engines. how do I schedule the procedure. I would greatly appreciate your help in advance !
I am only doing like 10-15 BMR links each week and EACH AND EVERY website I used BMR for has some great rankings.
If you do like 50 in a week than 0 in the next few weeks than yea, possible to get hurt…Link spikes are something anyone should be aware of…
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