I’ve been using DripFeedblasts for close to 3 months now with some decent results. It’s an Xrumer type service whose main USP (Unique Selling Proposition/Point) is that it’s highly customizable for your needs.
I’ve been privately sending people over to one of the co-owners on DFB on Skype, only to find out that people are still asking tons of questions, and frankly… it’s a PITA to answer hours of questions all the time so here’s the deal:
Drip Feed Blasts gives you a massive, massive amount of profiles links for a very cheap price. If you don’t know what those are, then just skip this post and try an article marketing service, or blog network article syndication service since this post is meant to be a “Best Practices for DFB users” post, not an intro to Xrumer, forum profiles, etc….
There’s dime a dozen profiles linking services that I would NEVER even dare mention to you because they’re all pretty much the same, whether they be semi-automated tools, or services or whatever…
Drip Feed blasts outshines them all in regards to:
- customization of orders on the fly
- sheer numbers of links
Aside from owning and running Xrumer yourself, nothing beats this tool.
So cancel any service you got going now that’s profiles related and get on board with DFB IF you know what you’re doing.
Who should get this?
- People who understand tiered, and/or layered linking,
- People who grasp the concept and understand the value of linking to secondary layers of sites for passing link juice towards a money site.
- People who have aged money sites with at LEAST hundreds of links to them, preferably thousands.
Does it work?
Yes, it works just fine just not as powerful as you would think it would be.
Currently I’m running 2 subscriptions for 60k links a month each, and 1 of their smaller packages, suffice to say, I’m dumping some decent outspend here testing this certain ways.
Best practices for Drip Feed blast users:
BTW, I absolutely HATE the fact they don’t have a proper best practices guide and it shouldn’t be up to me, (someone whose sending them sales) to develop this for them (Hi Guerilla now’s the time to comp me 2 campaigns, hustlah!).
#1- Please realize these are shitty links in that they’re sometimes naked links, sometimes inaccessible to search engine crawlers (therefore not indexable) and sometimes, err often times your profiles get deleted, but that’s par for the course with any Xrumer service that’s slamming out 100s of thousands of links.
#2- I tried to get a site dumped out of the search engines listings with this to see if in fact there were links going out, and sure enough my site with 10 backlinks, got “disappeared” about 2-3 days after the links starting hitting, even though it was a year old….cool….
#3- Layered and tiered linking are explained over in this post on link building strategies, and I STRONGLY urge you to read and understand that stuff first before you decide to use any type of heavy hitting service.
#4- Google Instant, long-tail keywords and multiple anchor text…
Do you know how Google Instant is offering up extra options for searches now?
Well, that is conducive for getting more long-tail traffic if your site is optimized for it, so when using a heavy-duty service like Xrumer services, it’s highly recommended that you rank your sites for all types of associative and related keywords.
Do you know what the Google Wonder wheel is?
Google it, use it, give yourself ideas for making satellites sites, parasites, new pages for your site, and use all of these terms in your anchor text.
Create web 2.0 entities based on these terms (wonder wheels terms, long tail keywords) and link/rank them up.
These web entities will be your parasites, supporting sites, and sort of like your freely generated mini-net sites, and they’ll all be linking in to you and your money sites.
What if you don’t have Web 2.0 sites, secondary linking entities link juice pushers, etc…
- OK then, write an article for EzineArticle, manually, for high search, highly competitive term and there’s one entity that can withstand some heavy duty linking to it.
- Do same thing for a hub and a lens.
- Now you have 3 entities to spread your link juice power out to, over, and through> to your money sites (in case it’s not readily apparent…you’ll be linking to your money sites from the EZAs, hubs, lenses etc…).
So spread your DFB link juice around to your Web 2.0 “pumper” sites and to your money site too if you want. It should be safe to do things this way if you’re diluting the power of the DFB blasts via multiple urls getting these links daily.
However, the more you dilute the less effects you’ll see, and it’ll take about a week to see any cool rankings improvements usually, because the profiles need to be found and indexed on their own, naturally, at which time there begins the process of links accreditation and some possible rankings movement.
Too lazy to build Web 2.0 pumper sites?
Then do a “combo” blast in DFB by having it send links to multiple sites and campaigns at the same time daily. This keeps things safer for sites that never received such inbound links “abuse” before…
NOTE: Earlier in this post, I mentioned that I got a site dumped out of the SERPs after blasting it for about a week or so with DFB. The site was about 8 months old at the time, had zero backlinks to it, but now it’s page 2 for the term. It got about 18k links from DFB and YSE (Yahoo Site Explorer shows) about 500 or so backlinks to it now. Below is a screenshot of this crappy site, on page 2.
UPDATE SEPTEMBER 22, 2010
Got a HubPages.com Hub banned today, has 2k/day going to the hub from DripFeedBlasts for 4 days straight. Use this tool cautiously and wisely, mix it in with other types of urls do not rely on it as your sole source of links.
NEW UPDATE 12/5/2010
DripFeedBlasts have raised their prices, but there’s a new service out at http://blastbank.com that promises/offers the same number of links
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Thanks Dan since I was looking at it from a mentioned in a previous post. It’s like doing a “Linxboss L4L” but manually with to way you mentioned by backlinking the backlinks for link juice.
Correct, and its powerful for direct links, too. The banned site I mentioned is page 2 for a pretty decent term, I just noticed that last night when someone asked me about it. How’s LB working out for you, I hear it doesn’t do a damned thing for some people while others are saying it’s kicking butt and taking names. I’m seeing a bit of both of that with my 15 urls in there
In terms of increase in SEO positions, it does wonders for me, at least for most of them(25 in all). But I think it’s all because of the indexed backlinks that L4L can use. IMHO, it’s the key for it to get the maximum benefice from LB.
Soon, I will look at the numbers… money wise. It’s not because I’m in the top 5 that my site is making me money. Of my first 5 slots from the end of June, one is now #1 and making more to pay for those other 4 slots. However, I did not look on how much the other 4 made since. Also, they hardly had L4L found versus the #1 slot who had more. I help on that last week by finding backlinks and saw improvement but did not dig a lot since.
It’s a solid service and I’m glad you recommended it to me a month or so ago, Daniel.
I think I’ve had about 20,000 links made by them and I’ve only visited the site 2-3 times ever.
Definitely worthwhile.
Thanks Pat, looking forward to your launch
I´ve just subscribed to this last night on Daniels advice. I´d like to thank him for taking the time to write a user guide as one is sorely needed!
He also doesnt get any affiliate deal from this product which is a bummer but still tells it like it is so credit where credits due!
I´m going to test this on a Facebook fanpage and a auto content blog feeding from my money site. They are both about 350 in Google for their keyword phrases.
I´ll need more link sites to improve my main site as Facebooks link are all no follow although it is very good for getting subscribers and I get decent direct targeted traffic from it.
I posted this comment on the Rank Builder review page, but it hasn’t been answered yet and it seems like it might be more appropriate here:
So Dan, Drip Feed Blasts or Xrumer-SEO?
I checked out both services, Xrumer-SEO seems to have more package choices (like combos w/SENuke, etc.) and better prices, plus guarantee of expertise and success rate, so I’m leaning there.
But you mentioned DFB to me, and you put up this review of DFB, but no review of Xrumer-SEO, so I wanted your opinion.
Also, do you know what Desmond Ong’s “Spike Method” is, any reviews?
Thanks
Rhythm
I pointed to XRumer-SEO as one option that would, in theory surpass the value of using something like Elite SEO Link vine.
I’ve never used XRumer-SEO, but have used DFB, so DFB got written about. Trying to keep this blog “real” and not opine too much about services I haven’t gotten my hands dirty with yet (10linksaday, SEONitro, Elite SEO LV, etc…)
I recently slammed a site with a little less than one hundred links with 1000+ profile links. Now the site has slid back to page 6 from page 1 for the keyword i was trying to increase my search engine ranking for. can you tell me what i can do to regain my page 1 search engine ranking for this keyword?
Jerry, I think that’s just the Google Dance. Having your site jump from different pages is actually a good thing, as long as you are still indexed (site:yoursite.com). Just build more links continuously and you’ll see an increase in ranking. Cheers!
Jerry, Jason’s right just wait a bit. I’ve seen it take 2 days to 3 weeks to even 3 months for sites to recover, I’d add this to what Jason said. Keep the links coming, slow it down a bit, add more content.
Then once its back to page one pick the pace up again and blast it continuously until it’s where you want it to be
Re: DFB vs. Xrumer-SEO, thanks for keeping it real Dan, I’m aligned with your integrity to only review tools you’ve actually used. Maybe I’ll try Xrumer-SEO on one site and DFB on another and report back.
Also, just checking again if you know anything about Ong’s Spike Method?
Thanks Ryhtm, I looked into the Spike method before, never ordered/got it.
There’s really nothing new (to me) yet that’s gonna amaze me.
Link wheels closed, open, daisy-chained…
WPMUs network building,
mini-net building,
layered linking, tiered linking
Xrumer Blasts, services, tools
LSI, the NEW LSI
Unless someone has an SEO blog I read or a forum thread that’s good value, I just keep on, keepin’ on, and drop stuff like BLS when it’s no longer working, add new arrows to the quiver as needed, drop stuff that’s no longer working etc….
Daniel, what would you think of combining this with Unique Article Wizard?
Get your list of articles pointing at your money sites and then plug their URL´s into DFB and backlink the crap out of them?
Dan,
Do you consider DFB to be effective for indexing and pumping article links that come from submissions done with Article Marketing Robot? I am doing lots of submissions using AMR for many different pumper blogs that I own (mostly aged blogs that link to money sites), and am looking for the best way to get these noticed and indexed. This will be hundreds of article URL’s each week.
Jen, yes that’s a perfect way to use it. I was actually going to update the post to suggest that.
You also might want to consider grabbing a list of credited urls/backlinks from YSE or somewhere else and sending link juice to old links, too not just new ones.
Thanks – what rate of drip or whatever do you recommend from DFB to AMR submitted article links? I haven’t used DFB before.
Also, I’m having a brain cramp I guess – what is YSE?
Jen, I’ll let Dan answer your DFB to AMR drip question…but YSE just stands for Yahoo Site Explorer, best place to enter your domain and see how many backlinks ya got.
Rhythm, someone above mentioned Dan doing a user guide for this, maybe that’s where my question about drip rate is addressed? Dan, do you have this guide available?
Hi Jen, sorry no, was hoping the blog post was going to be more than sufficient. I sure as heck am not gonna make one up for them when they should do it themselves, since the surely not be rewarding me for doing their dirty work for them.
Dan, what do you mean by the hub banning? Did your hub disappear or was your whole account banned? And why would it be banned for too many links.
I usually point more risky stuff at my Web 2.0s but I have wondered if there is still some risk.
One hub in particular got banned not whole account though
Do you have a guess as to why HP would ban it?
Promotion of site via SPAM methods. A.K.A. overly aggressive xrumer blasting
Thanks Dan. I didn’t realize that sites like HP had monitoring methods for that stuff. I always worried more about webmaster complaints.
Good to know.
Which would be the better partner service to this, UAW or AMR?
They will be the only ones I am going to use for a while to test effectiveness.
AMR’s looking good right now, real good. If UAW got with the times and published urls for places that published our UAW submissions, then I’d say it’ll be the best service forever since it’s got largest network.
do you only get good results from AMR because you throw backlinks at the published urls?
No, haven’t had a chance to do that yet, nor would I advise on doing that. It might take 2 weeks for a full article run, so when that’s done then it’d be a good time to gather up the urls, make feeds, submit feeds, index all your article urls etc…, but not before that
I have a website that was penalized for some reason by the google search engine. It slid back several pages for every keyword that i was on page 1 for. Do you think blasting this site with 500 links per day from drip feed blasts for a week would get this site back to where it was before?
Hard to answer that unless I know what you’ve been doing to the site recently, could just be a Google Dance
I actually built 1000+ profile links in one day for the website I was talking about.
Jerry, I’m gonna delete the last few back and forth comments here between you and me so this doesn’t turn forum-like ok?
The drop is a readjustment, has to do with existing # of links site has currently and recent link velocity etc…
Dan, Can I use BMR and ArticleRanks urls in DFB ? Is this safe?
Just so we are clear…. thats http://dripfeedblasts.com — right?
Thinking about signing up for the $99 a month for the 2k links a day. Figure Ill create a couple of web 2.0 pages (and a few EZA articles) and link them up.
Hey Sean, yes that’s the place. I would have linked to them but I’ve already sent them dozens of customers and thousands of dollars, so I’m being pouty by not linking to them
Dan -
I’m signed up. What’s going on with no affy code? They don’t offer it?
Are you using scrapebox to filter the backlinks, pr3 & higher for example, and sending them through a bie-type program to ensure they are indexed?
tia as always
Hey Paul, no idea about aff link… well I do know why they don’t have an aff. program, but it’s for pretty dumb reasons (they’d rather use paid traffic to get better, aka uneducated new clients instead of more educated link builders, something like that).
With these kinds of links I’m going to start waiting even longer in between ScrapeBox runs to see what urls/profiles still exist, to try and remain efficient here.
Why do a SB links scan once a week when you can just generate more links then once you’ve reached your rankings point, then wait a while longer, like 2-4 weeks, see what urls are still there, then index them all. I see people saying they only take their PR3 site url and work on those, and I think that’s dumb, really, Why ignore all those others if they only take a few minutes to get indexed.
Of the 18-20k profiles I made with DripFeedBlasts for one campaign about 2k are still live out there, with only 500, then 331 showing up in the YSE numbers.
So my point is, you might as well wait a while before indexing stuff so you’re not creating another job for yourself
Hey,
Just ran across an interesting thread in the DFB forum. One of the techniques they are using to index a particular blast is to use another blast pointing at those links.
Basically, using scrapebox to see if those links are active still, and then mass importing them into a simple blast and sending out a 2K blast at those links.
Interesting idea and in this way doesn’t drain away indexing resources/time and very easy to set-up, takes about 2-3 minutes.
Gonna try it on 100 links from a previous blast I still have that are active and report back some results.
Hi Dan
I have an outsourcer doing Senuke and MAN submissions for me every day, pointing at my money site. I also use the huge spinnable articles they use to send out AMR articles to all the directories every day, also to my website. I was looking at building out my next tier of links for diversity and juice. Would my best practice be to grab all my site links and all the promo sites and AMR article urls and give them to DFB? That would give the most random spread and diversity wouldn’t it?
Hi Daniel,
I just took a look at your selfimprovementmotivation.org in YSE and the links have slipped to 227 not surpising though… a quick question then… You mentioned that all of the links (except 10) were from DFB?
It does show the type of links they provide which is good to know… I am seriously considering DFB for my pumper sites… I also bought Linxboss on your recommendation…only been 2 weeks for me, I will report back on results…Thanks for your reviews!!
Hey, thanks for the great review, are you not concerned about getting your adsense account banned (if you have it attached to your hubs) and im assuming you do? By using xrumer methods..?
I don’t have Adsense attached to my hubs, and I’m not too worried about getting Adsense accounts banned via spam linking, only sites get banned anyway for stuff like that, ACCOUNTS get banned for seemingly (to them) fraudulent activity
I was under the impression that if one site got banned by adsense that they would pull your whole account?
What constitutes fraudulent activity if not building backlink networks full of automated spam? =)
Van
Well DFB just raised their rates 100%!..starter package went from $49/month to $99/month…Gold package went from $99/month to $199/month. Not sure I ever seen a hike like this before, and without any notice. Probably not the best way at going about things. I was about to purchase the silver package, but not now. Pretty much the standard practice is to give users a timeframe that prices will increase to entice us to sign up at the current price. This just drive more away.
I registered at the start of the month so I should not be impacted.
But that might be a way for them to start offering an affiliate program later and increase the number of servers, tools….since those cost money too.
You wouldn’t be impacted, but for the hundreds of other people that would have got in on this are. Simply too rich for our blood now.
Yup, too rich for my blood now, especially for “poop links” as I like to call em. I was going to spend $99 a month for 60,000 “poop links” to boost my tier 2 links but now they want $179 a month… I guess I’m better off. Was going to sign up at the end of the month (cause thats my other subscription dates) but I guess not anymore.
-Sean
hey Dan,
I’ve been lurking here for some time now. Expect to see me a lot on this blog from now on. This is such an awesome blog. I’ve learned a lot from you. I’ve join linxboss and bmr through your link by the way.
Just wanted to know, for the layer sites, what other tools do you usually use instead DFB? Do SEOlinkpro and Autopligg still works?
Kalep, thanks for chiming in, looking forward to your interaction here.
For layered linking you have 2 options,
1- build relevancy for long tails so they layers get traffic and pas traffic on to money sites
2- build enough links to solidly index the parasites or whatever you’re using for layered links
I ran SEO LinkPro for months with minimal effects, AutoPligg got hammered pretty hard so those link targets are next to useless now unless you keep getting new list of sites to hammer
Thanks for the reply Dan.
So if I choose the second option, is there any other good tools to link to the parasites that I could use along side with DFB links?
I’m always a bit peeved when people drone on about sites being de-indexed or permanently slapped due to “too many links” or “bad links”
I think a massive rush of links can cause google to take you out of the pack for a while (and examine the situation)
But if simply blasting a site with 5000 xrumer links was enough to get them permantently de-indexed – or even any long term damage at all..then we’d all be doing it to our competitors.
Hell, even scrapebox left on overnight spamming Blog comments to a few thousand sites would probably do it.
If destroying your competition was this easy everyone would be doing it.
A massive increase in Links is going to get Google to take a look at you – that’s all.
The shuffle can take from 3 days to a couple of months in my experience.
The best thing to do is keep building those links – even when your down.
As long as you can find your site with a direct URL search you are fine.
Paul, I agree 100%, but disinformation about this runs amok in SEO circles, but fits in well with some people’s psyche where they’re truly afraid of success, with success in this case meaning top rankings easily achieved, or too easily achieved… Some experts make it seem more complicated that it really is
Are the links that you get from Drip Feed Blasts more likely to get deleted than the links that you get from manual forum profile building?
Yes, absolutely, DFB links are low quality sp-links and manual building them on selective high PR sites less so
Been using DFB for a little over a month now. I was at the 500 links package, but upgraded to 2000 at the lower prices. It’s taken a while for me to get used to the lack of power of these links.
At first I was afraid to send them directly to my money site, but after about 20,000 links to my main URL with a two word anchor variation, I’m JUST NOW (yes, that’s right. After 20k links!) starting to see some movement in the SERPs. Competition is not that tough either. Currently the bottom of page two.
I know I could throw a bunch of BMR links at it to get it to move, but I want to see the power of DFB.
At this point my verdict is still out as to whether I will keep this service. Like you Daniel, I try to give services 3 months to see if they work, so time will tell.
Matt, DFB has an extremely high drop rate for links. The site I mentioned in this post now has less than 160 links according to YSE, the number keeps dropping every week, and I sent some links to those profiles to get them indexed, all 20k of them
Have you decided if you will keep using DFB?
I have 3 accounts with them, and use them as complementary links to build some linking momentum to some sites, and while DFB links may only temporarily prop up a site in the SERPs, those sites make more money even whilst temp. ranked so I re-invest site earnings into some BMRs and leave campaign running in Linxboss at same time, to cover all bases, to give a variety of links and then if things slip, I either go back to DFB, AMR, BMR, Linxboss combinations, but things generally don’t slip and if they do, I have to consider whether ranking for that term is even worth the constant linking it seems to require. ROI considerations basically, but yes I intend to keep DFB for a while, but am hoping to slim down to 1-2 accounts.
Read that part of this post on Spam-ish link building, that’s my philosophy when employing these kinds of links
It’s been a month so I decided to check my first drip again. Back then from memory, I had around 1200 out 2100 on my first run. Today, I have 900 that are still there. I have almost 700 indexed in Yahoo, not many in Google(less than 20) and 0 in Bing.
I did nothing to help them be indexex in Google them afterward. I could had created RSS of the profiles and submit those be indexed.
Are your results above(160) after 1 month or much longer?
Hi Daniel,
Did you ever try Nuclear Link Blaster and Auto Backlink Bomb? I have read several positive comments on these two profile link building software.
I’ve heard good things too about these profiles services/tools but they’re a dime a dozen and for the time it takes to fire up these tools important urls (if tool allows that) then begin the semi automated account creations, link dropping etc… it doesn’t seem to be worth the time investment. I know people who used sick profile maker, Nuclear blaster, and several other similar tools and they all end up being happier with DripFeedBlasts and some other automated stuff I tell people to use on the side.
The difference in SEO effects between high (ahem, quality…) PR semi-automated or even fully automated profile linking and super low quality crappy profile linking is minimal… I don’t see why anyone would want to spend a single blessed second using a tool, whether it be manual or semi-automated to do this. Manual efforts should be spent on developing high quality links not using a tool that build spammy links, but that’s my $.02…
Sorry for the long answer, I hope it’s helpful
I have two sites I am direct linking 1000 links to a day. Also have them in Linxboss. Both HIGH comp. One is a year old the other about 9 months. Both have been abused with links. I started targetting one of the terms as just a senseless test and low and behold am bouncing between #12 and #8 for the term.
I’ll report back with any new results…
-Shawn
P.S. Daniel, did use your link for Linxboss
Shawn thanks for supporting this site, please report back with any DFB or LinxBoss updates, good or bad
Thanks,
Dan
Are you testing the service at http://blastbank.com right now?
If I blast several hundred xrumer links per day to a squidoo lens will squidoo lock that lens or ban my account or both?
When hubpages.com banned your hub did they ban your account and delete the rest of your hubs?
Yes, testing it now, along with several other people who got their trial demo version…
I assume the link sources are the same, and quality too. DFB has some bells and whistles that BlastBank may not, but BlastBank is cheaper, offering the prices the DFB had originally set.
I blasted the Lens just as much, and maybe more than the Hub, and Lens is still standing..
The Hub itself got deleted, not my account, which is still in good standing
This is exactly what I wanted at a price that is reasonable. DFB went and doubled their prices, so that was doo-doo. But, before I jump on board, I’ll wait for your review and testing analysis.
-Sean
Daniel-
Between DFB and Linxboss, I have my two highly competitive sites on page 2. Seem to be stuck, but too soon to tell…
Do you have an opinion on Blast Bank yet? Seems silly to pay twice the price for DFB.
Thanks man,
Shawn
BB seems pretty good, I managed to get a site to disappear from the SERPs with 2 blasts to it in 1 week span, so that tells me these links are actually being seen and trying to get credited somehow, and when lots of CREDITED links pop up “out of nowhere” that’s what makes sites disappear from SERPs, albeit temporarily…
Dan – Like many on this site I respect and trust your recommendations and assessments of the various services mentioned including DFB. I know elsewhere on this site you’ve since changed your recommendation of DFB, but wasn’t really sure exactly what happened to change your opinion of the service. Would love to know what you felt changed with DFB to make them no longer a service you recommend.
Hi Dan, thanks for the question.
1- they raised their price
2- their % of valid links aren’t as good as similar, cheaper services
“their % of valid links aren’t as good as similar, cheaper services”
So just to clarify, those similar, cheaper services would be…??
BlastBank? BacklinksGenie? LinxBoss? Xrumer-SEO? Other??
Thanks
Rhythm
BlastBank and MegaLinkblaster
I tried out the Blast Bank 3 day free trial in December and thought I would feedback the results one month later.
Not used an Xrumer service before but obviously interested in its potential. BB interface is very easy to use – just enter your keywords and URLs. The keywords and URLs rotate so for the demo you can only work on one niche. I believe paying members can set up combination blast that would allow targeting more than one niche per blast.
After one month with no additional promotion of the links I found:
Trial is 300 links per day for 3 days
I got 1581 links
Check URLs 1 month later 1023 alive
Indexed links:
Google: 6
Yahoo: 811
731 with links back to target sites
400 links had correct anchor text
330 had the URL as the anchor text
No duplicate URLs
80 duplicate domains
Root domains PR: 1 PR7, 3 PR6, 17 PR5, 37 PR4
Seems pretty good to me.
Of course these are totally spammy low value profile links from a random selection of sites (including naughty sites), but that’s what you get from Xrumer and you can’t argue with the numbers.
Hope this helps!
Thanks for publishing your 1-month results of BB, France. Really appreciate commenters on Dan’s blog who help us rate the quality of these tools:)
2 questions:
1. Did you do any pinging or other form of indexing for your links? Only 6 links actually indexed from Google seems like a small number after a full month.
2. Can you report on what SERP effect it had on the domain/page you tried the trial on? As in, after a month, did your test URL move up from position #17 on pg. 2 to position #6 on pg. 1?
For me all of those services are the same, the only difference is the price. I am testing now backlinktank (also xrumer based).
I think that pinging is dead, it is too easy. I can buy program for 20$ and ping thousands times in minutes even with proxies. Google is not so stupid…