24 Comments on Free Traffic System Review Updated

Leanne rakeback absolute poker on Thu, 10th Dec 2009 6:18 pm


Have you had any further results since? I originally used free traffic system a few months ago, and it gave me good results for some easy keywords. I started using the paid version this month, as well as paying for their eliteseopush service. It cost me $300 for them to write 44 articles with three links in each, and submit them to 150 blogs each, totalling 6600 submissions and 19800 links. I’ll let you know how it goes. I’m a big believer in giving links at least a month to not only get indexed, but for the blog pages to have some of their own sites pr juice passed to them. I’m hoping you’ll have seen some results since you posted this?

Daniel McGonagle on Thu, 10th Dec 2009 6:23 pm


Hi Leanne, no results, no pingbacks, no tracks, nothing for those articles I outsourced to them. I wasn’t even looking for Page 1 here either just to see some increased SERPs placement so I know there was SOME effect.

Sad to say though, so far there have been zero effects, except for losing 85 dollars

Free Traffic System Review on Fri, 15th Jan 2010 4:59 pm


My results have been phenomenal but I haven’t taken a small effort by just posting a couple articles up. I started in November posting 2 per day. Then after 2 weeks switched to PRO because I could post to more blogs and get an extra link.

I started some new sites in December using them and all 3 sites achieved page rank of PR3,PR4,and PR4 on the New years eve update.

I’m really only focused on 1 site though and it is getting over 125 google hits per day already because I have focused on so many keywords.

on the site I used in November by the beginning of December I was getting hundreds of trackbacks. Email me and I’ll show you that site if you don’t believe me. I did extensive backlink checks to see where my links are too and they are on many blogs that are not article directories.

On my new site that I started a new niche in last month I have #1 on 2 of my terms already and am on page 1 for about 10 others. #1 makes a huge difference though so I’ll keep plugging away.

on the site I have the review on I have only put 1 post through FTS pro and it is ranking around #11 for the term ‘internet marketing products’

I haven’t even put any effort in that one yet either. So you want to see a real test – let’s see where it is in 1 month.
Did you spin your articles when you submitted them? I spin the titles and first paragraph just in case there is less SEO value in links with duplicates. I know there is no penalty for duplicate content but I spin them in hopes that I get better results and my results are great.

Daniel McGonagle on Sat, 16th Jan 2010 11:19 am


Hi Thanks for the review.

I targeted one term, somewhat long tail, used their writers and saw no improvements in SEPRs over last 3 months.

So that’s a real test! MY urls had no links to it prior to using FTT to get backlinks to it and it hasn’t moved up at all in that time.

I guess it would work depending on your niches or keywords or whatever, because anything works if your competition is non-existent.

But I use them as a free member, used their service to write and distribute 10 articles, and the SERPs did not improve at all.

A lot of people say this services works for them, but it didn’t for me and if it keeps getting syndicated to more and more sites as time passes, the only real way that will have a good effect on your SERPs and backlinks is if it automatically kept re-spinning itself to a great degree of uniqueness, as in changing the content length, titles, etc…

Susan Sylvia on Wed, 20th Jan 2010 10:59 am


My experience with this service was negative. I was a free member, and I can tell you that if your experience as a paid member was marginal, it will be worse as a free member. After my initial article was accepted, my subsequent articles were quickly declined. Now bear in mind, these were variations on articles I have written for EzineArticles and GoArticles, so they were quality, not some garbage I wrote just to get a link. And with the declines, there was no explanation, no option to edit and re-submit, and absolutely no answers to my emails. And I see on other blogs that others have had the same experience. I have to conclude that this customer abuse is their technique for converting free members to paid members. I refuse to spend another minute preparing articles to be declined. I would rather go elsewhere to build backlinks.

Daniel McGonagle on Wed, 20th Jan 2010 11:10 am


Hey Susan, sorry to hear about your bad experiences.

My first impression when going to their site was they were trying awfully hard to upsell their paid membership levels and their SEO services.

Part of this upsell had to do with appealing to people’s greed, by stating that you get extra credits/backlinks from the free members who sign up under you, which frankly speaking is probably why some many people are recommending it to their “downlines”.

Take a look around this site, you’ll see what I have found to be the most effective services for building backlinks.

Thanks,

Dan

Dim on Thu, 21st Jan 2010 2:09 pm


Hi Daniel,

I would like to ask you to update on this post the information which I have sent you in regards to your test. You got so few URLs due to the mistake in the URL which you have done when sending me the details for this link submission package.

And my mistake was that I did not double check the correct spelling in your mistyped URL and simply copied and pasted it to the submission procedure.

So, as the backlinks have been built to the URL that you sent and it was wrong URL – you could not get any results from this test.

Thank you in advance for giving a possibility to express another point of view on this blog.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Dim on Thu, 21st Jan 2010 2:18 pm


In regards to Susan Sylvia’s issue – indeed some of the publications have been locked.

We do not explain the reason for locking, because at the moment the flow is really huge. Still, that does not change the fact that any customer deserves an answer to a question and I apologize for the delay with answering.

Your 2 articles have been locked, because they were sent for a dispute. And the dispute was about whether an article about Kids Discipline was ok for such blogs as:
Community Blog Spot (relationships)
Pregnancy Tips – Healthy Baby Delivery (Parenting)

The moderator was not sure if that was not breaking the relevancy, as the blogs seemed to be too “nichy.”

Upon my personal investigation I approved the choice, because even despite the fact that blog is called “Pregnancy Tips – Healthy Baby Delivery” the category was “Parenting”, and that category made the blog choice a lot more adequate.

P.S. Sometimes it may look that we are too serious on relevancy, but this is the only way to survive HUGE blog leakage (due to posts irrelevancy) that our competitors face. We do that by zealotish checking of relevancy of articles and blog choices, by NOT using any autosubmission and by encouraging people to add more blogs (by rewarding them with bonus backlinks for that).

Kind regards,
Dim.

Daniel McGonagle on Thu, 21st Jan 2010 2:20 pm


I replied to your 2d email, stating how this could be fixed. There were 2 urls being worked on by your writers not just one, and if you saw the urls, then the writer saw the urls, that’s 2 more people that should have gotten the URLs right, and typos noticed.

Of course, it’s really all my fault, but should have been picked up by you and your writers, too.

Thanks,

Dan

Dim on Fri, 22nd Jan 2010 4:34 am


That’s exactly what I said – that was your fault in sending it and my fault in not double checking the correctness of this URL. I never dodged this.

I will get in contact with you via email with more details.

Thanks for the reply.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Daniel McGonagle on Fri, 22nd Jan 2010 10:13 am


OK Dim, looking forward to seeing some results with this, and your email of course

Dan

Karen on Mon, 25th Jan 2010 9:59 pm


Do you think that it is worth it to pay $497 for a lifetime PRO membership to FREETRAFFICSYSTEM.COM?

Daniel McGonagle on Mon, 25th Jan 2010 11:30 pm


At this time I would have to say no.

My previous tests on this service were flawed, in that one of the URLs was mis spelled, but the other URL I was testing didn’t see much benefit from 5 articles written and distributed.

In all fairness to FTT, it was a somewhat competitive term, I just expected SOME movement from 5 articles syndicated out to their network.

I am working with the folks at FTT to run another test.

Stay Tuned!

Dan

Dim on Sat, 30th Jan 2010 5:58 am


Hi Dan,

We are not FTT, we are FTS (Free Traffic System)

By the way, there are already some changes in the SERPs. On the major keyword for which Dan was fighting for and where we had trouble with URL misspelling – the site is already dancing between pages 6 and 7 in Google. And before doing the submission the site was not in the first 10 pages. I sent Dan a screenshot a few days ago.

Beyond any doubt this is not the time to open champagne, but at the moment the upward trend is obvious.

P.S. And this is for a keyword with 24,300 DIRECT link building competitors according to Google (and its allinanchor search query).

So, let’s see what comes out of it.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Daniel McGonagle on Mon, 1st Feb 2010 9:42 am


Hey Dim, sorry about that FTS it is.

Before we start popping champagne corks, it’d be helpful to also point out that the OTHER term I was trying to increase SERPs for WAS spelled correctly during my submissions and it still hasn’t moved in the SERPs. That term might be competitive, too, but as of yet still no SERPs movement for the other term swhichwas page 2,3, or4 a week after I published the post.

So, the one article submission that I/we did get right hasn’t done anything for the URL that I did type in correctly.

If re-running these submissions does something for that term, then we know that it will take 10, not 5 articles to be spun and distributed in order for it to cause some SERPs movement.

BTW Dim, were you talking about UAW on your blog when you called them out about their “test article network footprint”?

If so, then why would you still recommend or use their service as part of your SEO Elite service option?

Thanks,

Dan

Dim on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 12:38 pm


Hi Dan,

Just quick updates on your questions.

(1)
About the SERPs.

I have sent you email with 2 screeshots, backing up the following information:

For the correct URL you are currently (from my IP) on position #15, and used
to be on page 3 (position #22, according to the previous screenshot that I sent you on Jan 23rd). This keyword has 12,100 direct link building competitors, checked with allinanchor in Google.

For the misspelled URL you are #43 (from my IP). And you used to “dance” between pages 6-7 (according to the previous screenshot sent on Jan 27th, the site was #66). This keyword has 23,800 direct link building competitors, checked with allinanchor in Google.

Once again, I will not say that it is super-fancy-cool. But with this number of articles the trend is absolutely positive and viable.

I do not know if this number of articles and backlinks will be enough to get page 1. And no one knows that, only Google.

But I am very proud and happy to report these stats.

If you really want to fight for page 1, I would recommend submitting the articles on a regular basis.

So far the results of the test are:

- you moved from page 4 to page 2 (for the keyword with 12,100 direct link building competitors)
- you moved from beyond page 10 to page 5 (for the keyword with 23,800 direct link building competitors)

(2)
We do not use/recommend UAW for special service (Elite SEO Push) for our elite users. There is not a single word about it anywhere on the salespage. We use other services.

If you allow me to allow me to put the URL of the salespage, other readers of your comments and double check it.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Daniel McGonagle on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 3:10 pm


Hi Dim, I respect your tenacity here…

About me mistakenly thinking you were adding UAW to Elite SEO push, that’s my fault, too since I read only PART of your email here:

>>> To be frank, I also planned adding UAW to our list of services here
>>> http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/elite-seo-push/ because in Elite SEO
>>> Push we create unique articles and send them to the top blog
>>> submission services, and our goal for Elite SEO Push is to gather
>>> under one umbrella the best blog networks and submit into them. But
>>> for a while I had to set UAW aside, because despite they are great at
>>> doing their job, they have left two backdoors open. And it is just a
>>> matter of time before someone uses these doors and backlinks from all
>>> these blogs will get flushed by Google.

The “UAW footprint” isn’t in their test article, it’s in something else that ALL article spinning and submissions services have…MAN, AMA, Neurolinker, and yours included

I have ways around the “UAW footprint” and still use it effectively to this day.

About my test keywords and articles for my FTS testing.

Again, I was doing the Google Dance on pages 2-4 for this term for weeks prior to use FTS. That has yet to change, but it seems like the Dance has stopped and the SERP is inching its way to page 1 with the re-submissions you were so kind to do for me again, even though that URL was originally spelled correctly.

So, in regards to KW1, URL1, it seems like it will take 10 articles and dozens and dozens of backlinks to move it from its original “settling point” upward in the SERPs. My initial negative review of FTS (that may change who knows?) was based on the fact that there was ZERO movement for KW1, URL1 with 5 syndicated articles that supposedly gave me at least 10 backlinks. If those backlinks were of any value whatsoever, there would have been upward movement.

Read more about settling pints here http://linkvanareviews.com/link-building-when-should-you-start

Which seems to mean that FTS’ value is in the # of backlinks it can create, not high quality backlinks, which is very very normal for any article submission, syndication service.

Now, about KW1, URL1… the anchor text was rather long tail, gets very few searches, and is an exact match for the domain name (KW anchor text is mlm network marketing training/ URL is mlmnetworkmarketingtraining.org). So, I expect FTS articles to at the very least…. get this to page 2 or 3 from the nowhere land it has resided prior to using FTS.

We all know that prior to Caffeine, older domains with KWs in them were virtually assured of easy rankings, but even though the stated that its new algo was going to place MORE value on KWs in domain names, that doesn’t seem to be the case these days, from my personal experience and experiences of other webmasters I know.

SO… if the 2d wave of articles can get my network marketing scams article from page 2 to page 1, then I now know exactly what the “power”of FTS really is.

I think you can agree that there should be SOME movement on a URL in the SERPs after just 5 articles… at the very least…5 articles should stop the Google Dance and solidify a SERP for that URL…

Final Point: I absolutely does NOT matter how many searches there are for something, nor how many results there are for that KW when searched for, nor is there any reason to think that sites with more links than you are hard to beat and you have to get just as many backlinks as them, if not more to outrank them.

So when you point out what the competition has and is doing, I find that mostly irrelevant and somewhat misleading to less knowledgeable people who might be reading this

Quality over quantity is the point here.

If you can’t get quality links, then quantity is the way to go.

Thanks,

Dan

Daniel McGonagle on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 5:44 pm


Some other points to ponder/include here.

Currently Page 3 for term mlm network marketing – didn’t get any anchor text links for this specific term, and its less long-tail therefore harder to rank well for than mlm network marketing training term

I also ordered 3000 backlinks via an xrumer service for more links to the main domain, and am currently page 2 for term network marketing training, soon to be page 1.

So the links I am getting to the main domain url will only help with ranking for longer-tail term and should make subsequent links work better and faster, seeing as how I am using FTS to try and rank well for the term mlm network marketing training, but I already rank well for the shorter terms (mlm network marketing, network marketing training)

If you want to run a test on entirely different terms just let me know and i’ll fork over the dough again to give this another shot with a clean run…

Karen on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 7:04 pm


When you say that you paid for 10 articles for each website, does that mean that each set of 10 articles was for only one keyword?

Daniel McGonagle on Wed, 3rd Feb 2010 7:43 pm


I paid for 10 articles to be written and distributed.

These were split up equally between 2 different URLS, which naturally had different levels of competition and present-time SERPs.

So each one got 5 articles’ worth of attention.

Karen, I appreciate all your questions and comments. What are you doing now for link building what services, if any are you using or considering?

Thanks,

Dan

Dim on Fri, 5th Feb 2010 6:11 am


Hi Dan,

(1)
The footprint is in inside their test article. Their staff admitted that in a written reply to me. And they are working right now to fix it. So, my assumption was proven by their words, I am not inventing anything.

(2)
FTS does not send any test article. FTS simply sends the articles submitted by bloggers. In worst case scenario this will give away a tiny-teeny portion of the blogs. Not even 1%.

But if you can find any footprint that is opening more than a tiny portion of our network, please let me know. I am seriously interested in closing any possible security holes and your feedback would be really appreciated.

(3)
About SERPs and allinanchor

I agree that not only quantity, but also the quality of backlinks matters. And matters a lot.

But I quoted allinanchor, because this is the official Google search operator which shows how many pages are also getting backlinks with the same keyword in the anchor text of the backlink.

And surely I had to mention this, because your keywords are not the ones with 2-3 allinanchor, but with dozens of thousands. And this is an important difference.

(4) Updating the review.

I really don’t want to twist your arm to change anything. It’s your blog – I simply saw the review, was surprised, checked the issue, explained the case and helped you to see positive changes about your SERPs.

What really makes me not happy – to be frank – is that your review is not true in a very important point. You say “ZERO increase in SERPs” – and this is not true, because:

For “network marketing scams” you moved to #15 from page 4 (as you state in the review at the top of this page) – screenshot here http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/photos/shot_1.jpg

For “MLM Network Marketing Training” you came to #41 from nowhere – screenshot here http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/photos/shot_2.jpg

And the problem is that most of the people who will read “ZERO increase in SERPs”, “Don’t bother with using Free Traffic System.”, “the results are nothing spectacular” – they will not scroll the half-of-a-mile page with our comments to see the 2 lovely screenshots that show that the experience is absolutely not like in the review.

In any case, I thank you for giving me a possibility to explain my point in the comments and proving that FTS works. I know that you are among the rare few who allow doing that.

My job is done here. I am happy to have managed to help you and proud to provide you the verifiable proofs of the effect from the backlink in FTS.

And I will not insist in any way to change the major text of the review. It would be improper after your generous step of allowing me to publish anything I want in the comments.

Wish you all the best.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Daniel McGonagle on Fri, 5th Feb 2010 10:55 am


Hi Dan,

(1)
The footprint is in inside their test article. Their staff admitted that in a written reply to me. And they are working right now to fix it. So, my assumption was proven by their words, I am not inventing anything.

Hi Dim, never said you were inventing anything. However, most people who do anything with their sites remove those Test articles once they get going with adding content to their blogs. Almost like having a “Hello world” default post is a footprint saying “hey I am a new blog” but in the case with UAW yes it’s a footprint but no it’s not serious because they get deleted sooner or later.

(2)
FTS does not send any test article. FTS simply sends the articles submitted by bloggers. In worst case scenario this will give away a tiny-teeny portion of the blogs. Not even 1%.

But if you can find any footprint that is opening more than a tiny portion of our network, please let me know. I am seriously interested in closing any possible security holes and your feedback would be really appreciated.

I’ve written a guest author blog post about this called “Article Marketing footprints Exposed!” Not sure when that it going to be published, but that article/guest author post pretty much spells it all out. Try Googling that term in a week or so
(3)
About SERPs and allinanchor

I agree that not only quantity, but also the quality of backlinks matters. And matters a lot.

But I quoted allinanchor, because this is the official Google search operator which shows how many pages are also getting backlinks with the same keyword in the anchor text of the backlink.

And surely I had to mention this, because your keywords are not the ones with 2-3 allinanchor, but with dozens of thousands. And this is an important difference.

I understand that and I respect that you didn’t mention how many results but instead mentioned allinanchor which is a more reliable standard for judging SEO competition. But I never EVER look at the competition because some types of links get devalued, and the sites in the top 10 are my only concern. Anyone ONLY concern really.

Quality over quantity though… still my point here

(4) Updating the review.

I really don’t want to twist your arm to change anything. It’s your blog – I simply saw the review, was surprised, checked the issue, explained the case and helped you to see positive changes about your SERPs.

What really makes me not happy – to be frank – is that your review is not true in a very important point. You say “ZERO increase in SERPs” – and this is not true, because:

For “network marketing scams” you moved to #15 from page 4 (as you state in the review at the top of this page) – screenshot here http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/photos/shot_1.jpg

OK, not trying to be adversarial or controversial here. As I’ve stated in some comments, I was Google Dancing between pages 2-4 for a while prior to using Free Traffic System, and quoted Page 4 at a SERP because it was the lowest ranking point, therefore I was being generous by giving FTS plenty of room to at the very least solidify the Google Dance down to a solid Page 2 SERP, which it now has.

So if/when the now-solidified Page 2 SERP for that term moves to page 1, then I will see some real effects from using Free Traffic System aside from stopping the Google Dance and also causing upward movement in SEPRs.

For those not understanding this, the “Google Dance” refers to when your rankings bounce around in the ranking positions from different spots and different pages. It is usually reflective of frequent link activity occurring for the sites ranking for those terms, which means those sites might be getting backlinks for those URLs, might be getting backlinks to the sites for other terms, affecting its overall link juice and SEO weight, or just what I vaguely refer to as the “settling point” . Sometimes when you have a new site, or are trying to rank for a new term, you’ll experience this “Google Dance” for a while, but it’s more often than not just reflective of links being credited to other sites as well as yours.

For “MLM Network Marketing Training” you came to #41 from nowhere – screenshot here http://www.freetrafficsystem.com/photos/shot_2.jpg

Thanks for the screenshot Dim. If you check Yahoo Site Site Explorer, you’ll see that I have over 2100 inbound links to the site we’re referring to, many of which are going to the main domain name.

Dim, that site is ranked Page 2 for term “network marketing training”, Page 2 for term “network marketing scams”, Page 3 for term “MLM Network Marketing”.

My various other link building efforts for the 2 terms mentioned above that I didn’t use Free Traffic system are WAYYYYY more competitive a term than the long-tail phrase “MLM Network Marketing Training” which is an exact match for the domain name. If anything, my other efforts for getting backlinks to this domain for shorter tail terms (net mktg training, mlm net mktg) should greatly enhance whatever the Free Traffic system is trying to do for the long-tail KW that’s an exact match for the domain name. So I’m really helping you help me here, so I expect that I will be page 1 for that long-tail term with your help, seeing as how the shorter tail, more competitive terms will be page one soon anyways.

And the problem is that most of the people who will read “ZERO increase in SERPs”, “Don’t bother with using Free Traffic System.”, “the results are nothing spectacular” – they will not scroll the half-of-a-mile page with our comments to see the 2 lovely screenshots that show that the experience is absolutely not like in the review.

I will update the review to make sure that there’s a mention of my typos, your kind offer to fix and repeat the campaign.

In any case, I thank you for giving me a possibility to explain my point in the comments and proving that FTS works. I know that you are among the rare few who allow doing that.

You’re welcome. I’m not here to flame or bash but to provide real reviews based on real results. If I’ve learned anything, it’s to check the work done by others and maybe to include some allinanchor stats when testing and writing reviews for certain products or link building services.

My job is done here. I am happy to have managed to help you and proud to provide you the verifiable proofs of the effect from the backlink in FTS.

And I will not insist in any way to change the major text of the review. It would be improper after your generous step of allowing me to publish anything I want in the comments.

You’re welcome back at any time Dim, the review will get updated soon to reflect that I made some typos and they were fixed, but thus far Free Traffic System has not impressed me. My offer still stands if you want me to pay your outsourcing staff to write and submit some more articles for totally different sites and terms, so we could do a “repeat review” here base don keywords and terms you select. I think that’s more than fair, so let me pay you guys to do 10 more articles either all for one term for different site, or for 5 articles to 2 URLS each, You decide, you help create the test. It’s up to you

Wish you all the best.

Kind regards,
Dim.

Fred and Sudeshna on Sat, 20th Feb 2010 8:01 am


Hi Dim,

We tried using the free service for the first time, wrote a quality article (and I (Fred) am a highly praised professional article writer and hold a good enough recomendation at Warrior Forum for article writing), spinned to 105% or so and submitted.

We were surprised to get a decline and no way to figure out what’s wrong as well as no way to resubmit the same article from inside the tool using the workflow of the original system in FTS.

We had serious intentions of going for the paid version in the long term, but this is apparently a serious spanner in the wheel.

Could you please clarify?

Thanks,
Fred and Sudeshna

Daniel McGonagle on Wed, 24th Feb 2010 1:13 am


UPDATE:

Same old, same old, it seems.

URL #1, it still dancing around on page 2 same as before

URL #2 is dancing around on pages 5 and 6

My offer still stands to try some new URLs to offer a fair and balanced test

UPDATE: 3/4/2010

Tired of waiting for this test to pan out, still at page 2 here, still a little bit of dancing on page 1. Going to spend about 15minutes generating about 90 backlinks to the test url #1 and I will be page one and climbing up in just a few days. That’s what BLS does.

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