HomePage Backlinks – results from using (ongoing review)

by Daniel on February 1, 2011

in Link Building Services

HomePage Backlinks is a service that charges 97/month to place your anchor texted, do-follow backlink on the home page of 90-plus high Page Rank sites.

The links come from amidst a jumbled mix of content on a page that has 100s of other outbound links on there. (example site that does this but not one of Terry’s is DELETED).  You might want to take a look at the inbound link profile of  DELETED to see some sites using this service,

The service is run by Terry Kyle, a person who is somewhat knowledgeable about SEO, but wrong in some areas, unfortunately….  but let’s not focus on that, SEO is like a religion; everyone believes what they want to believe and if they do enough of the right things, then good things happen so….

Terry is a big user of and believer in high PR sites, whether it’s buying aged domains with PR and blasting them with links to rank them for whatever you want, or just buying them for other purposes, like sending link juice towards another site.

Terry’s also thinks the number of OBLs (outbound links) on a page doesn’t matter when it comes to providing or receiving link juice, and the reason I mention this is because his HomePageBacklinks network is just that, a network of sites whose front pages, whose main urls have high PR and lots of OBLs.

Terry’s proven that the whole OBLs thing doesn’t affect link juice provided, so it sort of helps knowing this before you consider getting his service here.

What HomePage Backlinks buyers get:

For $97, you will receive one link on:
2 PR6 site homepages
15 PR5 site homepages
40 PR4 site homepages
40 PR3 site homepages

I would not advise that you get this service (not yet anyway)…

I heard so many BAD things about it from other link service providers and seo dudes and dudettes, and I just ignored it for a while, but when I got an email saying they were open again and had some more slots available so I took the plunge to see for myself.

By the way, 97/month is the fee here and you’re renting links that disappear should you ever quit so they ONLY way this service could be recommended is if you were trying to bolster a site in the SERPs with a slew of high PR links, and if those high PR links helped, then you could allocate your time elsewhere to shore up[ your rankings, then change the URL that homepagebacklinks is linking to…

In other words, use it as a tool for temporarily giving new or old sites a boost in SERPs, for whatever reason.

So far though, it hasn’t done much for me but we’re about 2 weeks into it so not much expected so far.

Site 1 tested, Chronology…

Long-tail 4 word phrase,

low competition since it’s long tail

no other EMDS on page 1

Starting point- Not Ranked

14 or so days later – Pages 12-15

30 or so days later – Page 17

Dismal results and effects thus far…

I’m going to keep this service for another 2-4 months to give them time to all be credited:

Please don’t get this merely because I am reviewing it, there’s other proven services out there right now, and I can think of 3 other ways to get high PR links or PR-ed urls, permanently for close to same price, but they’ll not be rented links and one time fee.

If, or when I think this service is worth spending 97/month on, I will definitely let you know via an update on this post

Random thoughts about high PR links - the backlinks  cause some weird Google dancing as they get noticed, and/or dropped.  I ordered 300 high PR commenting links from another service (which shall remain nameless because I’m not sure they’re wort hit either), and I saw that the site being linked to bounced around quite a bit over the course of 2-3 months.  And by the way, that site was #11 for a monster term a few days ago at the time of this writing, but of course today it’s page 3….  typical :(

Have I ever rented high PR links before?

Yes, I rented a Pr4 link for 5 months, and the only OBL/url/backlink on this site was to my destination site.  The link renter selling me the link is/was a big proponent of the theory that the less OBLs there are on a url, then more value the link gives, and the more PR it can pass, potentially.

  • My site didn’t gain PR during those 5 months
  • Rankings didn’t increase, then again it’s muy dificil to outrank SEOBook for stuff
  • Dropping the rented PR link a month ago, didn’t affect my rankings nor the site’s PR, it actually went up for a change recently.

So once again, it’s tempting to use a service like HomePage Backlinks because it’s Terry’s offering, and he knows his stuff, has gone to great measures to prove his OBLs points ( # of OBLs doesn’t affect link juice url gives, basically is what he says)

Should I/you/we build out a high PR network much like HPB?

Well, obviously the concept would need to prove itself first (hasn’t yet, not even close), but it it does, here’s some numbers games to play….

97/month times X 3 months is about 300 dollars…

300 dollars can buy you 10-30 domains with PR, in my case, maybe 6 @ 50 each for 300.00

Long story short here, if you bought 6 domains with PR for 300 dollars you’d have 6 permanent high PR links, and you’d have to spend 300/month for another 15 months 4.5k or so (6 X 15 = 90, +6 from month before = 96) to get what HomePageBacklinks gives you for 97/month, temporarily.

To me using HPB is worth it as a investment in education for me because I’ve never really put much stock into the “power” of high PR backlinks, but it it ever does work in this case study, then I imagine we could all work together to build out a 1.5k network of sites, all with PR, just from readers of this blog o’ mine.

It’d be a high PR donor blog network that would sort of work the way authority link network does, except that your links would be on the high PR-ed url of the sites, not on PR 0f inner urls. Of course, once the sites are bought and/or donated, we’d have to maintain the PR indefinitely which is an added wrinkle to consider, too.

But I digress, and maybe I’m revealing too much of my thought process here, but suffice to say, if this works, then it means I’ll finally build out a high PR network of sites, and make a (free?0 donor service for readers here, and not even my list will know about this.

NOTES: Is this test valid?  Should I/you/we expect a brand new site with hardly any links to rank with a slew of high PR backlinks in just a few weeks?

There seems to be some questions about the validity of this test, so I wanted to give some additional information here.

#1- I’ve used some 2 different packages of paid for high PR commenting backlinks to rank new-ish sites

#2- HomePage Backlinks’ sales page says that the best use of their service is for aged sites that are already ranked page 2-3 for a certain keyword…

So is the test valid?

Yes, because I’ve received good results, OPTIMAL results with lower-powered backlinks that were high PR for the same kind of site being linked to (new sites with little to no backlinks and/or rankings)

Is this test a good example of best use of this service?

Apparently not, which is why the sales page says to use it for established sites that already have backlinks and established rankings.

I think that in 3 months time the site WILL rank for the keyword I chose.

After that time arrives, I will switch the campaign over to a site that should receive optimal results (established site ranked for certain keywords) and do a test on it that way, but for now, to maintain the validity of the test, the same url and keyword will remain in place in their network

UPDATE 03/09/2011:  Site referenced here is page 9 for the long tail kw

UPDATE 03/23/2011: the site I used for this review is now page 1, #8 for the easy term I chose, and #9 for related long tail keyword that didn’t get any links. It’s an EMD with shallow content…

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Matthew K February 1, 2011 at 9:47 pm

Can’t wait to see the results. I almost took the Homepage Backlink dive myself, but I have been crushing it recently with BMR and AMR. I had seriously thought about buying up some PR domains as well, so it will be good to see if this works for you.

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Joe February 1, 2011 at 9:59 pm

I have 2 packages with homepage backlink from Terry, i don’t know if they worked for me or no as i get many other backlink packages with them such as profiles and AMR, etc…

My question is: what you suggest as replacement for homepage backlink that will give us the boost for same price ? backlinksgenie.com or maybe buying high PR forum profiles packets ?

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Daniel February 1, 2011 at 10:15 pm

My goodness Joe, 2 packages!

There’s not really much that can compare to this type of network, except the copycat services.

High PR commenting links are different from what this does.
High PR profiles linking is done on high PR sites, and the profiles hardly ever get good PR

To emulate this and test this in a smart way, I suggest you try using Authority Link Network; they’ll direct you towards some domains with PR auctions, and merely donated a site to the network will give you come credits with them.

Then you could keep buying them up, keep using ALN for links but also dedicate your home page of the newly acquired domains with PR to test the theory out, just make sure you put these domains on different hosting.

This way, if the whole high PR homepage backlinks thing doesn’t work out, at least you earned some submissions credits with ALN by donating some sites with PR to them

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Joe February 1, 2011 at 10:32 pm

Daniel, Thanks a lot.

If i cancel today and i want to rank my websites (10 sites) what tools or services you suggest for me to invest in?

I have UAW, AMR and Bookmark Demon.

Do you suggest for me to invest those money ($200/m) on Forum Profiles and Blog Comments ?? even i know that actual PR that my link will be in is PR0 but do you think they help in SERP.

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Daniel February 1, 2011 at 10:47 pm

Well, lots of directions to go in here, really…. but I don’t want to sway you away form using HPB….maybe it’s working for you, I don’t know really.

But Backlinks Genie is 199/month and can give you more link variety, and more link volume, something to think about…

Again, I’m not trying to dissuade you from continuing on with homepage backlinks.

If you have time to do thing manually then there’s always guest blogging (laborious), scrapebox, etc… you’re already using 2 pretty good article submitters so maybe you could build out some web 2.0 mini sites that will gain PR over time and provide good link juice, or maybe cancel ONE of your HPB subscriptions and replace it with Build My Rank which is 59/month if I recall correctly, then get some permanent quality links from there, Or run with my ALN idea…

Lots of directions to go in here, but if you just want one service to replace HPB, I’d go with Backlinks Genie since it’s also automated, except for the web 2.0 part, and they just came out with article submissions, too (not that you’ll be needing to use that much, since you use AMR and UAW, too).

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Joe February 1, 2011 at 11:24 pm

Thanks a lot for taking time and answering my questions. Very much appreciated.

Is this links enough ?

1 – Article Submission ( AMR, UAW)
2 – 50 Web 2.0 Prop and keep repost to same.
3 – 50 Blog Network on C Class IP ( PR 0 ) Updated with spin articles.
4 – 60 Forum Profile (Backlinks Genie)
5 – 750 Blog commenting (Backlink Genie )
6 – 1000 Xrumer Blast – (blastbank.com)

Will this be enough to get my website high in serp?

Dan February 2, 2011 at 7:57 am

Hi.

What’s the website url of the HPB service?

Thanks
Dan

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Jay February 2, 2011 at 11:38 am

Hi Daniel:

I’ve been using HPB for about a month now and have mixed feelings on it also. I’m going to give it another month too. I have had an increase with rankings, but I’ve done some other work along with this service.

The service that I’ve been most impressed with is BMR. Fast indexing, great PR. Permanent links. Getting tired of writing 150 word blog post though. But great for laser focused targeted keyword link building.
AMR is good also, then I throw that into Backlink booster (Steve A version)
I think I could get by with just BMR and AMR.

Jay

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John April 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Jay, your mixed feelings are justified!
Tip: Check out the sites your links are on – you can find them easily by doing a backlinks check with Yahoo site explorer.
You will find that these look extremely spammy.

But the good thing about it is that you can check if all the other clients of that service are actually succeeding in ranking their sites – since they are all linked from the home pages you find.
I did this for 20 sites ….well check for yourself and you’ll see…:-)

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Daniel April 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

John, good tip and that’s exactly what I do when I look to see where my links come form, and if this service is working for others using same service. Of course, we can’t ascertain how long those other sites have been in the network….

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Mark February 2, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Dan,

Thanks for the thoughtful reviews. We’ve been stuck on page 1 for a few rather competitive terms (think $7 in PPC land) and in an effort to finally get to #1 we purchased a rental packet of home page links similar to this (rethinking as we speak) as well as signing up for BMR.

BMR is a service we’re excited to try because it might help us boost ourselves for a few select keywords, although it’s going to be plenty of work for it to happen.

Outside of those-any other suggestions for a final push? Some of our competitors don’t have as strong link profiles as we do already, but they’ve been around 20+ years while we’re working on a 18 month old domain.

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Vij February 2, 2011 at 10:29 pm

Dan

I took something similar, so I guess we can expand this case study.
Lofty claims like

15 PR0, 5PR1,48PR2, 25PR3, 4PR4,3PR5 with OBL ~60

Domains aged 8 years or more: 15% of the network
Domains aged 5 years or more : 33% of the network
Domains aged 3 years or more: 76% of the network
10% of the domains are DMOZ listed which considerably increases domain trust
10-15% of the domains are Yahoo and Google directory listed.

I guess if both our tests fail then these things are useless. In theory it should be useful, unless google spots some patern. Lets see

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Daniel February 2, 2011 at 10:49 pm

Hey Vij, thanks for chiming in here, are the sites you’re getting links to already ranked somewhere, and how old are they?

Question #2 – What kind of high PR links are you getting?

There’s a difference between homepage links mixed in with content and blogroll links so I just want to be sure what kind of links you’re getting there, so we can compare notes and results….

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Dan February 3, 2011 at 5:58 am

Hi.

I just found a new(?) service called textlinks (textlinks(dot)com)
Don’t know if someone already reviewed them? Dan?

It looks like they also offer highPR homepage backlinks

Thanks for your feedback.
Dan

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Zach February 3, 2011 at 7:27 am

Very interesting review. A group collaborated blog network similar to “Authority Link Network” would be really cool and something I think we all could benefit from.

I am curious about this comment though:

“The service is run by Terry Kyle, a person who is somewhat knowledgeable about SEO, but wrong in some areas, unfortunately….”

Any chance you could elaborate on what specifically you disagree with Terry Kyle about? I’ve learned an enormous amount of information from those guys over at Backlinks Forum and I’ve yet to find a more comprehensive resource than “Backlinks Hydra”, so I’m very intrigued as to which of his philosophies contradict with your own experiences?

You guys are obviously both very knowledgeable and successful at backlink building so it would be very enlightening for many of us to know specifically what you disagree with him about.

The guy does have 3 spots in the top 10 for the keyword “backlinks” though so I think it’s safe to say he knows something about the subject

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Daniel February 3, 2011 at 10:11 am

I disagree with Terry saying that you should not vary anchor text when linking to a url, it’s part of what I wrote here in the SEO Gurus Confusion post.

Being ranked page 1 for the term backlinks isn’t hard, especially when you encourage forum members to blast their forum profiles with profiles spam links as part of a contest to build link juice to the site, having other domains with keyword backlinks in it seems to help, too.

If you take a look at the squidoo lens on page 1 for the term backlinks, and see how many links that has going to it, then you might reassess just how competitive that keyword is to rank for

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Paul February 3, 2011 at 11:21 am

Dan, I respect your views & respect Terry’s views. I utilized Terry’s views – but incorporate a wide variety of anchor text variation. I think Angela believes in keeping the same anchor text too – which is quite silly when one thinks about how easy it is to spin varying anchor text.

At the end of the day, both you & Terry have many sites ranking very high. :)

Great comments, as always.

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Daniel February 3, 2011 at 2:32 pm

Right those are silly pieces of advice to give but lets not let that overshadow Angels and Terry’s contributions to the seo community either. They’ve done WAYYYY more good than harm, and that goes for Tom Goodwin too.

I respect wisdom and knowledge in others, no matter their attitudes, and one tiny piece of advices versus hordes of good information won’t make me a non-believer in anyone.

Like I wrote in beginning of this review/case study post, SEO is like a religion, not everyone agrees on the same things, but if you do enough of the same things, you’ll be fine.

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Paul February 3, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Dan,

I agree 100%. Angela/Terry/Tom/you all are great for the serious play-the-game-at-home individuals.

If all we had was seomoz, then we would be cold-calling our competitors and asking if we could exchange bloglinks. :)

Seomoz types are operating in a world of trying to impress their peers, which is intellectually embarrassing.

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Guy February 4, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Hi Dan,

I have used HPB on multiple websites and my experience has been that they are good (in terms of SERP boosting) for websites that already have a diverse link profile…If you have a website on the second page and you have already been using BMR, AMR, Linxboss, Profiles etc..Then me experience has been they are a bolt on for an extra push..Never done them to a raw domain with no links but I think they should be viewed as an addition..Cheers

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Daniel February 4, 2011 at 3:23 pm

Hey Guy thanks for chiming in. I used ultraseosolutions high pr blog commenting links on brand new domain and ranked it page 2-3 for tough keyword, so that’s the angle/idea I was testing here with HPB. and I also ordered JimKarters high PR blog comments to rank an EMD in 2 weeks for fairly easy term, too.

Hit me up on skype and I will show you the site I used HPB on, and the ones I used UltraSeo and the other commenting links on

But yes, I agree that it would probably work best for an aged domain with lots of links to it already (what owuldn’t help a site like that?)

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Edgar February 5, 2011 at 3:24 am

I have had a different experience with HBP

I have applied it to the homepage of a site with a quite difficult keyword: The average PR of the top 10 for my keyword is 6.2 (and the average PR for the top 10 home pages is 6.8. It jumps to 7.1 if I exclude my modest PR4 home page).

Results:
After about a month, I have jumped from position ~50 or more to position ~10

My ranking has been stable for the last 6 months. Needless to say that I continue to build links to consolidate.

For me, it’s a positive experience for which I have a good paypack.

I would not recommend HBP for a new site. Mine was well established and HBP provided a boost. The spammy nature of HBP links was not a problem. If I look at the history of my ranking, it might have taken me an other two or three years to reach the same result with my other link building methods.

Edgar

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Murali February 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm

Hi Dan,

Your site is an amazing resource. It has become one of my most visited sites recently and will continue to be.

A few questions:

Google does not show all the backlinks of a site. YSE is better than google but still does not show all the backlinks. It takes more than 30 days to see if any of these backlinks are credited. So, when I am building links, how do I know how many of my backlinks actually count ? And how do I know that asap and not wait for 1-2 months?

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Paul February 5, 2011 at 4:47 pm

Dan – can I hit you on skype sometime? I have a few questions to ask you relevant to this thread, and ideas in general. pm your skype or you have my email. Thanks.

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Daniel February 5, 2011 at 6:46 pm

I emailed you my skype, and will work/advise/consult/skype for donations (hint, and LINK) :)

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Jones M. February 7, 2011 at 2:25 pm

I’ve used TK’s HPBL for 4 months now using 4 different keywords.

Each of the domains have different keywords, different age, different competition for the keyword that I am targeting.

ALL of my rankings have decreased.

This includes doing a lot of hefty profile links, commenting, rss, etc… to the HPBL too.

Don’t know what to say about this service except I’ve had far better results with a simple profile/web2.0 tool using once per week.

Will probably ask for a refund because I think that 4 months is long enough for a good test.

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Bernard February 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm

To JONES M.,

can you please tell us what;s the age of domain name and how many backlinks you have.

I have 2 subscription with them for 2 months now,

First, 4 years old domain with 50 backlink. i see good result.

second, 6 months y/o domain with 200 backlinks. i didn’t see any results.

Maybe the first website get result from other backlink tools i used.

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Paul February 8, 2011 at 11:02 pm

Hiya,
Dropped in looking for feedback on terrys service as i have a client who wants to push up a term- its on page 2 at the moment, so i am guess this service should be enough of a boost

Thoughts?

Hope the traing is going well

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Ryan February 9, 2011 at 3:05 pm

I really enjoyed reading about your test and opinion on paying for the high PR links. I’ve had mixed results paying for any kind of links on my sites and often prefer to hire out a writer to build guest posts for high ranking sites that offer permanent links. It’s a bit more expensive up front, but at least the link will stay indefinitely.

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Rocket February 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm

Dan,

What are your thoughts on niche press platinum? One one hand i love the fact they give you urls the bad part is even with their top package you have to get this stuff indexed!!

would love a review from you

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Jamie February 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm

Hi Dan
I have tried several homepage backlinks packages on page 1 and page 2 ranked websites, and seen NO movement. These were well backlinked sites that already had rankings, and were not in very competitive niches. I would have though that homepage high pr links would work, but maybe high number of outbound links really does massively reduce the linkjuice, or maybe google is on to these programs. Who knows, but they just didnt work.

Interested to hear your thoughts on buying links in general – what do you think of blogroll links on high pr domains? What kind of paid links do you think provide the biggest boosts? Maybe relevance and traffic to the site is a major factor….

Cheers
Jamie

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Daniel February 10, 2011 at 7:04 pm

Jamie, the way I see it, if you’re going to pay for high PR links, you might be better served if you rented links on related sites and paid a similar, or slightly higher monthly fee to advertise on the related site with a banner ad or something. If you can get a banner AND a DoFollow anchor link for a similar price, I think that’s much better than paying for a rented link that may or may not provide rankings.

If you advertise on a related site the link would pass more benefits (relevant site, anchor link, targeted traffic)

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Daniel February 10, 2011 at 7:07 pm

Add on reply… I heard from a homepage backlinks provider that blog roll links started to prove less effective which is why they now strictly do amongst-jumbled-content links, with the idea being that the search engines, and the spiders aren’t human therefore they’re not going to see the link as being unrelated or worthless or whatever, since they’re not human readers, just computers/programs scanning websites looking for what gets linked to…

Sitewide links still work, too (footer links, software (widget, themes sponsorships)

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Jay February 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Anybody have any interaction with Terry or Vesi? I’ve asked for a refund within the time period and my links taken down and I’ve made three requests and haven’t heard back from them.

Jay

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Jay February 12, 2011 at 3:28 pm

He got a hold of me and refunded my money. At least you can try this service for two months without losing any money. That part was good.

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anjur February 15, 2011 at 7:31 am

I have used Terry’s HPL for 3 months, after discussing the ‘optimal’ application with their staff (I had several different sites/kwds I wanted to optimize, and I let them choose what they thought would be most compatible with HPL). We agreed on an aged high pr site, with relatively competitive kwd stuck on position #4. Results – zilch, nada!

Asked for refund, got it promptly, no hassle at all – so I guess there is no hurt in trying it out, but for me it was a total waste.

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Mark Wilkinson February 16, 2011 at 10:59 pm

Well if Google finds out you are using a paid backlink service you are going to get slammed and lose your ranking.

Checkout the recent news on JCPenny and how htey paid ofr 1000s of links and moved into the top position in google for a ton of popular christmas terms. They made millions off it. Then someone told google (a newspaper investigator) and all their rankings tanked by 50 or more places within 2 days.

Funny though that google catches the little guys who make no money but JC Penny does it on an insane scale and makes millions with 1st place google rankings and google doesn’t notice until an investigative reporter and the NYT tell them….then they have to do something to save face.

You see the difference between you and JC Pennyh is that JCP spends millions advertising on google and you don’t!

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Daniel February 16, 2011 at 11:07 pm

Mark, this can be seen as somewhat contradictory, the Big dogs, JC Penney, and Big dog SEO firm got caught, same as the little guys…

All link building is an effort to game the system, flying under the radar as best you can, or flying above radar as naturally as you can seems to be the best bet, at least until the best content is truly something that’s Wikipedia-like in nature, but that will always be a matter of opinion and nobody will agree on what is considered best content. Only Big G knows what it’s looking for.

Another way to look at thing is, the more SEO changes, the more it stays the same so old school stuff works but isn’t flashy.

And since it changes every so often, once you rank for a term consider it a temporary placement, ensure you’re making money from that top placement, and re-invest some earnings into things you don’t want to do (maybe) like add more content, create more bells and whistles, do manual labor links, etc…

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Chris February 18, 2011 at 6:41 am

Hi Daniel, I noticed that you called Terry Kyle’s suggestion that you should anchor text only one term per page silly. Why is that? Do you have case studies to de-bunk his findings?

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Daniel March 9, 2011 at 8:39 pm

UPDATE 03/09/2011: Site referenced here is page 9 for the long tail kw

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Mark March 19, 2011 at 8:00 am

Well it sounds like the reviews are in and it’s officially been debunked that, these HIGH PR LINK NETWORKS, simply DON’T WORK and are NOT WORTH THE HIGH PRICE TAG. Based on your testing, what other people who have tried these links have experienced, to take the slogan from the popular show Mythbusters: “This MYTH is BUSTED.”

And I would think simply on the face value, you and pretty much any SEO expert myself included would agree, that it simply isn’t worth the money and is very risky. It’s generally bad enough if you get caught buying links, but in this case it’s not only apparent to a human, but also even to a bot that you are purchasing links.

I for one, just on the face value of the links, would consider these the CRAPPIEST links you can buy. All of these networks, have one thing in common they purchase expired domains hoping that the PR will stay. Throw up one large 3000-4000 word article, filled with a bunch of jibberish and then throw up 100-200 outbound links (OBL)’s to your page.

Now just from first glance, ever day I had one of these links I was worried that I would be hard core slapped by Google. And having purchased 150 High PR links in total and not having seen any increase in Pagerank, like yourself, I can safely say that when I canceled my subscriptions and asked for my links to be removed I slept a lot safer, with no changes to any of my rankings weeks later.

And if you really consider the type of links that are created, the high OBL ratio, and the fact that they are jumbled together in an incoherent article it’s pretty clear to see why they don’t matter. I am sure by now Google with the LSI company they purchased a few years ago. The programers and algorithms, if they see 1 page with 100 links ever other sentance, they immediately discount the links. It’s not natural and Google and their engineers aren’t morons.

If you will recall how all these networks came about, it was in relation to a ebook Terry Kyle released, which detailed his use of high PR sites and having created 1-3 links on the homepage to his sites. And rankings went up. Well that is vastly different to what has been implemented here, where you have an expired domain and instead of recreating the content and continuing to build the links and they strategically placing 1-4 links on the homepage or PR page(s). That makes sense, and I can definately see how in his original report and scenarios it worked, and have seen large players in competive niches do similar things with great results.

However, the network he launched and subsequently dozens of other people launched. They of course didn’t do that, instead they took an expired domain. That say was about “evergreen tree’s”, took some jumbled up PLR or Ezine article on “The everglades”. Stuck 100-200 links to the schmucks sites like us who bought into this nonesense and hoped that the PR would stick.. But even so, they really didn’t care, because they could easily buy a new expired PR domain for $30-40. And quickly recoop the costs.

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Daniel March 20, 2011 at 10:22 am

Mark, some valid points here, a lot actually…. There’s better ways to utilize high PR links and make better more effective high PR networks, but the high PR links DO work to some degree. I’m using other high PR homepage backlinks services now but best thing to do here, really, is buy expired domains with PR and links with one relevant niche keyword in there, then put it on different hosting.

Maybe even 301 all the incoming links to home page so you don’t have to create the site, then add a few niche relevant posts to them.

You can scale this up slowly, and you will own the sites, and the only rent you’re paying is the seo hosting, not paying for rented links…

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Paul March 20, 2011 at 11:03 am

“I’m using other high PR homepage backlinks services now”

Hi Dan –

Can you provide details on what type of service/program you are using? Is it private or open to new members?

Thanks.

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Daniel March 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm

Hey Paul, I’d prefer NOT to reveal these services lest anyone go run out and join 1 or even 2,3 of them, witohut knowing which ones a good one, best methods and sites to apply these towards etc..

As a matter of fact, this post on HomePage Backlinks probably never should have been written, and I should have just reviewed the whole high PR links concept

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Paul March 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm

Dan, just busting your chops. :) Giving you a hard time….you told us you were going to keep it private.

Peter May 10, 2011 at 3:43 am

Hi,

I find the idea good to build our own network here. Please, let me know if you are serious in doing it. $1.5k should NOT be a problem from 20-30 readers here…

Best,
Peter

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Jake September 20, 2011 at 4:06 pm

If you were to create your own network of sites with pr, how would you host everything?

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Daniel September 20, 2011 at 5:30 pm

I’d focus more on building related domains for a mini-net model of sites, then put them on different hosting, registrars, privated whois, and random interlinking.

When buying PR domains, it’s important to know that there’s a lot of fake PR and crap domains for sale, and that the PR will drop no matter what you do once you buy them.

So, the answer here is… buy some related domains if you can and cross link them in a random way if you can, buy some just for PR if they’re solid sites, keep your OBLs down to a minimum, try to do what you can to keep the PR of those domains up, or better.

I’m a cheapo though and don’t do this, as I’d rather just pay a few hundred a month to get some HPBL services to do this for me, and let them worry about their PR and sites’ stability

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Daniel February 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm

Joe, generally speaking that should do the trick, that’s a decent amount of firepower there, but as always it depends on your nice and seo competition within. If like me you have more time than money then using these services will help quite a bit, but if you want to do things manually, you can spend more time doing this laborious stuff with one-time fee tools.

I don’t want you to think I’m telling you what I’m telling you for affiliate commissions credit or anything like that, as there’s plenty of ways to rank your sites, with or without any of these aforementioned tools.

Link building does NOT make people money, site traffic and good business plans do though, so please don’t spend too much time ranking your sites when one good site can pay for all your current SEO tools and services employed, and then some, know what i mean?

If you use these services to free up your time, you could always use that freed up time to find affiliates, get manual links, make valuable blog comments on relevant sites (get more targeted traffic), do guest blogging, etc….

If your site or sites is/are aged, you could spend some coin on Linxboss, then the res ton Build My Rank and write some posts there yourself.

Lotsa ways to spend that saved money (200/month) better, in my opinion.

Hoping this helps more than it confuses,

Dan

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Daniel March 23, 2011 at 12:09 pm

funny, haha!

BTW, the site I used for this review is now page 1, #8 for the easy term I chose, and #9 for related long tail keyword that didn’t get any links. It’s an EMD with shallow content, too

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