I see a lot of people wondering about how to get their self-generated backlinks indexed.
Should you even bother trying to get backlinks indexed?
- Each backlink is an addition to your site portfolio.
- The more valuable or numerous your backlinks are, the better your portfolio, (generally speaking)
- Link building is an investment of your time and resources that needs to be watched and measured.
Which begs the questions:
- If I do link building and don’t get all my self-generated backlinks indexed, have I’ve wasted my time?
- Should I focus on getting more backlinks or indexing the ones I generated?
- Should I do both (generate more and get more of them indexed)?
Measuring the ROI for your link building is a tricky task…
First you need to know what an improved ranking is worth to you in real dollars and sense, not just bragging rights
Secondly, since ascertaining your time investment is harder than measuring your dollars investment you should probably start putting a dollar amount of how much /hour your link building AKA portfolio building is worth.
Anyways, enough with the preamble about whether or not you should strive to get your backlinks indexed, but I just want you to be aware that sometimes it’s not even worth the hour or two it takes to get a list of urls together and send them off to a service for indexing purposes .
In my opinion if you can cheaply get your backlinks urls indexed then it’s very much worth it, with a strong emphasis on CHEAP Ie. not spend a lot of money or time on getting this done.
Indexing services and ideas for getting backlinks urls indexed:
Backlink energizer utilizes a slew of tools and concepts to create a wide ring of web entities good for getting about 300 urls indexed a day, according to the Schmuck Steve Aylor that I spent hours upon hours talking to 
just kidding, Steve!
To use BLE or BLISS or whatever the heck it’s called..
- You need to register and install a few self-hosted wordpress blogs to act as “launch points”.
- Then you install the plugin,
- Configure the “clusters”, AKA list of websites to create accounts at (they provide the urls to create accounts at),
- Enter in some RSS feeds urls to draw in some top quality content to your web 2.0 cluster sites
- Dump in a list of urls you want to get indexed.
Potential downsides here:
- You don’t own the entities acting as the indexing machine, therefore could get your accounts at these places banned if you don’t set things up properly (follow Steve’s advice on setting up your clusters and you’ll be fine).
- Pain in the rear end getting all these new accounts made up
Huge upside?
- The indexing machine is using authority sites like vox as the indexers, therefore you’ll be glomming off that authority, and getting that easy indexing.
- There’s cross linking that can be done between members’ clusters to get your new clusters warmed up which increases the overall power of this kind of web 2.0 mega super duper link wheels
This is in BETA, won’t be ready for a while but it’s different from Backlink energizer because there’s no set up required, no effort aside from ponying up some dough and giving them a list of urls and it also strives to increase relevancy not just performing indexing tasks
LJM is a self-contained network of blogs and forums, and it works at getting links indexed, perfect for profile link builders, as is Backlink Energizer.
More on this later once it is available to the general public and I can do a full bore review.
Link Velociraptor- Was using ping.fm or status.net as a gateway through which they’d syndicate some urls through tweets and social media mentions…. however slamming the gateway APIs seems to have caused some issues and it looks like they’re gravitating towards a system like Backlink Index Express.
Backlink Index Express-
With Backlink Index Express, you set up 5-10 self-hosted wordpress blogs that acts as the indexing machine. You own the properties here, you control the indexation power and you don’t really need to get any SEO hosting to make it work.
You upload/install a script to your sites here, and it does index checking of urls you put into the system
I am using this type of system right now, but will also be testing out Backlink Energizer when ready ( have proof it works really well), and Backlink Indexer Express, or BIE works well too.
- Downside: None that I can think of
- Upsides: Very little configuration needed, no new accounts to create.
Honorable Mention: Backlink booster at backlinkbooster.com
NOTE: This isn’t to be confused with Sean Donohue’s “backlink booster” which no longer works because it relied too heavily on getting automated backlinks from social bookmarking sites that didn’t require registrations, and for some other reasons, too.
The REAL Backlink Booster does a whole slew of things to generate backlinks to your backlinks therefore it’s not really an indexing service, but more of a link juice booster or Backlink booster that pushes some link juice towards your pre-exisiting indexed backlinks.
- Downside: you need a good working current list of your inbound links in order for this system to work.
- Upside: Once you have a list from Yahoo Site Explorer or SEO Spyglass uploaded, it’s a pretty automated system
Do It Yourself Passively on a smaller scale
Use WordPress blogs, leave trackbacks open on posts (that you need more indexed backlinks pointing to).
Trackbacks and/or pingbacks are only notifications that a site linked to you, but doesn’t mean it’s an indexed link, at least not right away, but it’s a notification that a site has linked to you unless they’re using one of those Related Blogs plugins, then the trackbacks are usually impermanent.
Investigate those trackback urls if it’s a syndicated article you wrote then take some steps to get those urls indexed or even just some links. Push that url through to a trackback feed and on to Twitter to get the trackback urls indexed.
2 posts to read on how to do this:
The benefit of using this passive system is that trackbacks are generally real time valid backlinks, therefore more current and more reliable than what you’d get from Yahoo Site Explorer or SEO Spyglass or whatever.
The downside is you can’t really run a lot of urls through this type of passive indexing mechanism and doesn’t work 100% but works pretty well.
I recommend the following right now:
I will most likely be giving Link Juice Maximizer a thumbs up when it comes out and tests out OK
Download Targeted Subscribers Wordpress Plugin Here
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Daniel – thanks for this. I am a little surprised about your comment on Sean Donohue’s “backlink booster” – can you expand on the reasons why it dosen’t work?
Past and “current” users have told me it doesn’t work anymore because it relied too much on free social sites for backlinks and was hitting a gateway API too hard, (or was that Link Velociratpor).
Sorry if I sounds confused (I am!) ping.fm gateways got hit too hard by at least one of 2 services causing that gateway to not work well anymore fo rindexing stuff on mass scale, there’s rumors Facebook will remov eits API-friendliness, there’s 2 backlink boosters out there, there’s link velociraptor, backlink energizer, link juice maximizer, nuclear link booster the tool, nuclear link blaster the server, makebacklinks.com, etc….. this stuffs driving me nuts trying to track and test all of it, so that’s my excuse for not being sure exactly why Sean’s booster doesn’t work, but more than 1 person has told me it’s not a viable tool anymore
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks for this post Dan. I’m gonna reTweet it.
I’ve used Sean’s Backlink Booster in the past. It’s okay, but the CRON jobs were hit and miss sometimes for me. Then again, I may have been asking too much of a single ping.fm key. Anyway, this left me looking for a better solution. I looked at some of the others like BIE and am on LJM’s waiting list.
Lately, though, I’ve been using Backlink Energizer and I think it’s really, really cool. The concept is the best I’ve seen so far when it comes to getting links to my links. Plus, my cluster sites are getting indexed pretty quickly which is helping me quite a bit in the serps.
I agree that setting up the accounts with Backlink Energizer can be a “pain in the rear end.” Right now I’m using SEnuke (I’ve got the Lite version) to handle most of the registrations. I still have to do a couple of them manually. But it makes things a little easier than doing it all manually. Once I get about 20 or so of these clusters set up, I think I’ll have all I need to keep up with my current need for link energizing.
For anyone that may not have these tools, Clysolutions.com (not affiliated) has a cool account creation service for $0.70 per account. They support most of the sites used for Backlink Energizer. You can make up the difference by using their “Add My Own Accounts” feature.
Clysolutions requires you to spend at least $10 to place an order. But, for anyone who needs tons of these clusters (or even just a few) but doesn’t want to use software, this is the next best thing. Plus, they’re pretty fast. I got my first order back in less than 24 hours. If you think this service is worthwhile to your readers, they’ve got an affiliate program in case you want to make a little coin for referrals.
Okay now, back to work.
Wow, great feedback Paul, good to know there’s places that’ll do the account registrations for you without having to use a new tool, service, or ubot.
I’ve seen how the clusters work, and they work really well for getting backlinks to themselves and other web entities within the cluster, so it’s good stuff here. Too bad this is just an indexing tool so far though, as I think there’s a lot more than can be done with Backlink Energizer
Just as a heads up, I long promoted the use of BIE on various forums, such as the senuke forum under this name (check it).
The newest version of BIE is total garbage in my opinion. There is something seriously wrong with the script and how it handles the XML-RPC protocol.
First were constant phrasing error’s which support stated had to be caused by a plugin I had. Fine. Got new blogs, fresh installs, no plugins at first. No more phrasing errors, still wouldn’t post.
I isolated the script as the problem given that link farm evolution, article marketing automation, free traffic system were all able to post through the XML-RPC protocol without a hitch.
Until the author addresses compatibility issues, stay away from this product because you never know if you just might be one of the unluckies such as myself….
Thanks for the feedback. I was about to buy BIE too. So what do you recommend then? Backlink Energizer?
Everyone I know who has BIE says it works gang busters, still. So try to not use latest version to get best results, I guess, or go the Energizer route, or wait for LJM
That does seem a bit strange to me.
I’ve been using BIE since it first came out and since it moved away from Ping.fm and relied on self hosted blogs instead it has become more valuable, in my opinion.
I recently decided to run some numbers to see just how effective it was and over about 10,000 links that were pushed through my BIE set up of 5 blogs I had a 90%+ index rate.
It is definitely very good at what it does but Link Juice Maximizer will be better. But hey, I’m biased so what would I know!
Great source of information. You have used a word “launch points” What do you mean by this?
Launch points AKA launch pads, or in normal-speak, the blogs form which you pull in RSS feeds data and push it out to the social web 2.0 entities
Hi there,
Just to respond to some of the comments made here. BLB is still working fine and we have almost 4000 active customers still using it. The problems mostly lay with posts being too short and being filtered by Ping.FM with their recent changes.
As long as you use the system as intended with a brief but quality post that is at least 200 words long you will have no problems getting the backlinks posted.
Also, the system does require you create and signup for accounts with Social Bookmarking sites, Web 2.0 sites, etc. So wanted to clarify that point up.
Also, just to clear up one other point. The original Backlink Booster was released on November 30th 2009 by us. BacklinkBooster.com was a copycat tool released as a membership in March 2010.
I want to make sure we clear up the confusion with a few details so that no-one is accidentally misled.
Regards
Sean Donahoe
TheManicMarketer.com
Hi Everybody,
I just wanted to take a minute to clear up some confusion regarding BacklinkBooster.com and Sean Donahoe’s product:
BacklinkBooster.com is NOT a copycat product of Sean’s script. For some reason Sean disparages us every chance he gets, and he keeps misleading customers by saying our Backlink Booster is the same as his and that is completely false.
While BacklinkBooster.com uses some general boosting techniques that are similar to what BIE, Sean’s script and other “boosting” products use, it goes far beyond that and is a completely unique product with nearly a dozen boosting tools and network of boosting sites that Sean’s BLB does not have.
Plus, BacklinkBooster.com is an “always updated, always available” web application that utilizes the power of cloud computing to make setup and usage extremely easy. Sean’s product is a script you install on your server.
Also, we are coming out with some really cool updates to BacklinkBooster.com to make it even more powerful. I’ll keep you posted on our progress.
Finally, we have owned and actively used the Backlink Booster name since 2006. Sean started infringing upon our name at the end of November, 2009 when he used our name to name his product, which has created confusion in the marketplace.
I hope this helps clear up some confusion over the issue. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Thank you,
Tom Parsley
BacklinkBooster.com
Tom, if you still have my phone number just give me a ring and we’ll do a text interview on this ok?
Hey man,
Great run down of getting links indexed there. That along with all of the various methods and tools out there to do so.
How are things?
Kurt
Hey Kurt, things are going well, I got your Skype message by the way.
Also moved up a few spots for “our” main term/kw…
I like directory links they hold their ground and last longer then most. I also find that manuall directories have a better success rate then blog posts alot of the time blog owners delete your post simply becouse you added a link to your comment no matter how good of post you put. Although alot of directories dont get the traffic they say and are strictly link farms.
Joe
The “Link Juice Maximizer” and “BIEHive” have really peaked my interest.
I really love the idea of getting backlinks to your backlinks.
However, when each customer gets to add 100 links at time to your blog network won’t that basically destroy it? I could understand if they were adding 20 dofollow comments to each post page, but BIE creates a new page for each link.
When they have these blogs that make 2 or 3 thousand posts per day won’t that basically get all of those blogs deindexed quickly?
If this is a “reciprocal link” thing, then you set up a domain just for this purpose.
Problem is, that’s what everyone else does as well.
Lot’s of spam filled PR0 websites on domains like;
zqiocv.biz
That cost someone 11 dollars for two years subs.
Don’t know if that’s what this is, but I’ve seen reciprocal link systems before, they are universally c%^p.
Is there a known release date for Link Juice Maximizer?
Daniel,
I know you’re talking about getting a massive amount of links indexed, not just 300 AMR articles per site, but have you noticed Linxboss’s L4L having any impact on keeping things indexed?
Say I write and submit an article to AMR, wait two weeks, add the url’s to L4L. Would that achieve the same thing here?
That’s pretty brilliant/savvy/smart of you to consider that, damn yea that would work awesome
IF IF IF
L4L actually goes out and does its thing properly
Maybe someone smarter than me could do a test, 100 URL’s (articles, profile, etc.) added to L4L compared with 100 not added.
I asked Erik from Linxboss if they were going to have a bulk upload feature for the L4L and he said that it was in the works (no ETA). So, if this does work, it could be another cool benefit for LB.
Pat, thanks for sharing on this thread. I look forward to a review of Pat & Gary’s service when it becomes available. Thanks.
As I get older, I notice everything repeats itself ad nauseum.
Both Tom Parsley & Sean Donahoe sincerely sound like victims in their posts. Did either contact the owner of this site directly & offer to provide evidence or talk with the operator of this site (hint: his name is Dan, very easy to reach)? It’s his site. If you are really operating an effective business – one that we should provide monthly subscription dollars to – then why not contact the site’s owner? It’s incredible the nerve of some folks.
Why do they think they can just come on here and post their own “interpretation of the facts”? Why not take the time to talk to Dan? Take 10-20 minutes out of your schedule in a professional business like manner. That is what an business operator would do instead of just posting your “facts”.
The conclusion is always the same on these matters too. It all revolves around women and/or money.
Paul, Tom called me last night, Sean emailed me yesterday, too. I didn’t really know there was a bug to-do going on about this, so I will try to do some interviews to at very least clear the air about what each product is and does, but not going to do any mediation. If they can both contact me, they can contact each other as well. The way I see it, neither one of their products are the “industry standard” for backlink boosting or indexing right now anyways (BIE and Energizer right now take that prize) so I’ll do interviews if they’ll let me to at least inform readers here, whilst leaving the other stuff out, nobody needs to know that stuff, all we care about are tools that work
Dan, thanks for the update. Yes, my comment was only regarding how companies react. I can’t think of any $50,000/year assistant manager at Starbucks, GM who would simply leave a reply on a message board. Not a knock against anybody, but it would be pleasant to see some maturity and professionalism displayed by IM software management who are selling a monthly-based product to subscribers.
As you said they aren’t on the recommended list of products. My point was more to myself – sorry for you having to take the calls.
What I appreciate about your site is the professionalism you communicate to the readers.
Hi Guys,
Just wanted to follow up real quick. There are a lot of great tools mentioned on this page and all should be considered as part of an overall SEO strategy.
My original post was not intended to start a “Flame War” but to clear up some confusion that seems to have occurred in specific regard to my product Backlink Booster due to a comment from a customer who read this post.
Dan, I look forward to chatting with you at your convinience if you wish to discuss this further and again, all these tools should be considered and tested in regards to an overall strategy.
I was just at Stompernet live 10 with many of the top people in the industry discussing many of these techniques and strategies and all have merits and weaknesses. However, one tip I will give is diversification. Never put all your SEO eggs in one basket
All the best
Sean
Hi Everybody,
I want to publicly apologize to Dan for having this issue spill into his lap. I simply wanted to reply to Sean’s post to set the record straight, but in retrospect I should have refrained from doing so.
I have the utmost respect for Sean and he is a true asset to the SEO industry. I have offered numerous times to speak privately with him about this issue, and I sincerely hope he takes me up on my offer.
Regardless, Paul makes an excellent point. Professionals should not publicly “air dirty laundry,” and I will not do it again, regardless of the situation.
In closing, as Sean said there are some amazing SEO tools out there. Dan does an excellent job with his reviews, and this website is a huge asset to the community. I want to thank Dan for his work, and I wish all of his readers the best of luck in their endeavors.
Have a great day,
Tom
Hi Daniel,
I’ve learned a lot from your blog. One thing I don’t understand, if I’m using sites like UAW and Linxboss, how am I supposed to know which links to get indexed? They don’t say where the links are? How do I get the links from those sites indexed?
Thank you,
Barak
Daniel,
Just wanted to let you know that Link Juice Maximizer has officially launched with 3 levels of membership. May want to look into it
I got a spot, it will be closed by end of day….will review it anyway though
I took a look at this service I found called Index Bear, sound pretty decent. You just place your links that still need to be index into their form, and submit. They calculate the price for you. It’s $0.01 per link, so $10 for 1000 links.
I recently just submitted about 2000+ links to them. A mix of sb/profiles/articles. Just got the report from them with 40% of my link indexed. Small part of those links are already indexed. Got good index rate for my profiles/sbs/some LD articles. Pretty good, I guess.
Hi Daniel,
I read in an earlier post that you recommended Backlink Booster. I’m considering using it in conjunction with UAW or AMR. Do you have a discount link that we can use for that service? Thanks!
Hi, yes there is a discount for it, available at this blog post/interview on Backlink Booster
Hi,
I’ve tried backlink energizer and backlink index express. Both worked wonders, but they required a lot of work. Do you think blasting our buffer sites to auto approve blogs with scrapbox will work?
Good question. Scrapebox auto approve blasting will work, yes. I don’t do it personally, as I’d rather have a service do this kind of thing for me. Something else I’d like to emphasize if that good links that pass referral traffic at some point will gain some PR and provide a better inbound link, with less work.
There’s tons of ways to go about building link juice, you can focus on the better quality links for direct links then use crappy scrapebox blog comments for boosting those links, or lower level tiered links. What you need to do is whatever you’re comfortable doing, but please take into consideration the fact that more time spent blasting links is less time creating content people might want to read.
People will make more money for themselves if they focus more on the stuff that makes them money, conversions, new traffic sources, new traffic-generating content that actually helps people.
Make enough $$$ doing this and you can hire people or use services to do your link building for you. A service dedicated to doing any of the tiresome chores of link building will mostly likely be better accomplished by pros, leaving you more time to do other things, as mentioned above.
Hope I explained this properly,
Dan
Dan