So, you have a new website on a keyword-rich domain ( I hope) and you want to get it ranked ASAP….
But the common questions and valid concerns are…
- How many links is too much?
- How many UAWs should I write?
- Should I use any of the software or services recommended on this site you’re on right now to rank my sites?
Well, a lot of people will tell you that they’ve experienced major disasters when linking to new sites in a “forceful” way, and while this is the most common trend, there are still those few link builders who say they blast new sites with links and never receive any type of sandboxing penalty of disappearance from the SERPs.
Since most people tend to fall in the former category and not the latter, here’s a way to ramp up your new sites safely.
Theory: too many new direct links to new sites causes them to go “bye-bye” in the SERPs, therefore you should let them aged a bit before blasting them with links.
Again, this is theory, not reality but since most people with new sites and a zealous passion for using services to rank their sites end up doing something wrong therefore deserve their disappearances from the SERPs, while more knowledgeable folks can blast new sites with any negative effects, but for sake of argument , we’ll take the safe road here.
Do’s and Don’t's:
Don’ts
- Don’t outsource 50 articles and submit them to UAW right away, even at the lowest submission rate, like 25 or 50/day. You should remember that UAW runs on free websites accepting free content but these sites only accept and publish a certain number of articles /week or /month so 50 articles a month in UAW is a waste of effort since you will NOT get a decent acceptance rate that way.
- Don’t put brand new sites into Linxboss or BLS or any other service that will get you lots of links (relatively speaking, for new-ish sites), as this is overkill and unless you plan to maintain this link velocity for months on end it will not serve you well.
NOTE: IF you start off linking fast and furious YET MAINTAIN this velocity you will be fine, but your early efforts usually tend to not prove out with a good ROI just yet.
Do’s…
- Take the time to build quality links in smaller numbers to boost your sites “naturally”
- Start thinking outside the box and develop other web entities that could rank for some of your lesser keywords and phrases.
- Once sites achieve some ranking and linking momentum and are dancing their way up the SERPs not just dancing in place, the perhaps consider ramping things up.
Your new sites:
- Build out some quality unique hand written and created hubpages and lenses and publish some ezinearticles.com articles
- Optimize them and their titles for your niche’s main keywords and phrases, or even sub-keywords and phrases.
- Build links at whatever pace you want to those Web 2.0 entities, they can handle it, and link back to your money site(s) form those entities.
NOTE: With these hand-crafted Web 2.0s, your goal is to treat them like your own self-hosted websites, by creating top level content and ALSO… by writing them in such a way that you drive the visitors form those entities to your money sites.
- Use whatever tools you have at your disposal to rank these entities and while they might outrank your money sites for those keyphrases temporarily, they will be linking to you, they will be providing direct traffic, and you will be creating quality backlinks this way…backlinks that will increase over time and possibly create some Page Ranked links to your money sites (the few Hubs I have that are dofollow are all Pr1 and 2 for example).
If you make these entities the main focus of your link building efforts, they will rank in due course, but you can also divert some of your linking power to your money sites as well, to start some sort of velocity campaigns.
Do manual blog commenting on relevant urls, not sites, so if you write a blog post about wordpress landing pages, then go leave a comment on any type of url dofollow or nofollow that ranks for that term. Leave an approval-worthy comment that adds value to the discussion to get some commenting traffic back to your site. Do this for every new content piece you create and publish. The reasoning behind this is the search engines will see increased traffic to your sites that is commensurate with the inbound linking activity as makes things seem more natural and is conducive to good site building and natural progression for new sites (ie. new sites, new content, new traffic, new links aka new activity to notice and spider).
In a few month’s time you can do mass commenting for links using software and use services to increase the links to your main sites since you’ve already created a solid SEO baseline.history for your sites.
AGAIN: Let me just say this I know there’s ways to blast new sites without penalty, but this post has been written to address the larger audience’s concerns and past experiences.
Summary: for new sites, it’s recommended for most webmasters to let domains age before blasting with new links therefore establishing a modicum of quality backlinks and expanded web presence via comment son highly relevant urls, and links from ranked and optimized web entities is the way to go, for now.
Any questions? please don’t leave a comment, kidding
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Hi Daniel,
That is great advice. Thanks
Similarly, would you also write a post for the correct methodology of long term link building for existing sites which already have between PR1 to PR4 ranking?
Cheers
Raj
Hey Raj, the PR of the sites don’t matter. Old sites can take pretty much everything, but I would ramp things up more aggressively each month
Even the guys from LinxBoss insist that one should build quality and authority links to a new websites before starting to use their system.
What I really love about LinxBoss at the moment is their L4L system.
That’s killer.
Outsource some manual link building and do it wisely, then go for the tools.
Thanks for the post Dan.
On your LB review you mentioned that you had used it for new and old sites alike and had seen good results with both. Is your point above to just leave the new site in LB for 3 or 4 months if you’re going to put it in at all? As you may have guessed, I’m starting a brand new site, brand new EMD, and want to add it to LB. Would love to know the answer to this question.
Yes, I would put new sites into LB to free up some time to do things that complement what Linxboss is doing. So build some quality links to help move things along and establish some momentum
If i remember correctly, in some of the other articles you said that you like to put new sites in LB for a while and just then do UAWs on them, since UAW might be much more powerful and kill a new site.
Now you are saying to use UAW (on a low setting) and leave LB for later because it’s too powerful?
Am i lost?
Yes, you can do either or, really, it just depend son what you have in your arsenal and how you’re prepared to use those tools and services.
You can drop a site into LB and let it run for a while and do nothing else, or hit it with UAWs fast and furious or slow drip rate submisisons….
What really matter is this, and if you keep this in mind people like me won’t confuse you.
No matter what the link velocity is, if you sustain it for a long enough period of time it will look natural and will produce results, as long as you maintain that velocity.
Most people don’t have that kind of staying power or arsenal so it’s recommended for them to start sloe and build sites inbound linking pace more aggressively over time.
Hope this clears up any confusion I may have caused, there’s really no wrong way to do things as long as you’re consistent and persistent
Yes, makes sense
The way i see it now, if the fruit is low hanging, dont waste too many bullets, but approach it slow and steady with less. You will get to it soon anyway.
If it’s slightly more competitive and needs more links, just start stronger from the beginning but keep it that way as long as needed. You might actually get to it for the same time, just with more brute force… :>
I’ve had always had good results by just bombing a new website with links from BLS the very day I register the domain and creating about 5-10 manual backlinks per week by commenting on high PR blog pages (recently I’m trying to add LinxBoss in the mix to see if it speeds things up). So far it worked wonderfully, never had a probem, best I did was #1 on a keyword with 500 daily searches in a month and a half for a totally new website, and at worst it can take up to 2 months to get on page 1 and up to 6 to get #1. Just be patient and be constant with link velocity.
Hi Dan,
Great info here. I don’t know if this has been asked in the past, and it might be a bit off topic, but I see that most (or all) of these tools/networks are English speaking orientated. Is there any that could work in other languages/markets, or we just need to resort to building our own tools, (which might not be scalable to be honest)? It is a question that as far as I know hasn’t been really replied anywhere in the online marketing community. Good chance for a blog post ; )
hello dan, thanks for the great post,
however i still have some confusion on the “quality links”. What can be quality links to a new site?
links from article directory? from web20 site?
can you please explain this a bit more?
thanks
Just wanted to tell my experience.
and now they are on the #1 page of Google.
Getting lots of links via article submission didn’t cause much problems for my websites, but trying to get PR links ended up with disappearing from search results.
After getting (buying) 4 links from directories and other blogs that were selling links (2 PR1, 1 PR5 and 1 PR 3) my web page disappeared from search results.
Also, I thought it was SandBox (Probably it is) and I had to wait for 5-6 or even 7 months, but after a month and half they came back
Vusal
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Thanks I’ll take a look at it shortly
Oh no – you’ve let someone post this nonsense on the BMR review page then closed the thread.
“What i have seen is that due to popularity of the service, one’s content remains on the front page ( and only the front page has PR ) for only one day. After that, it is as good as a link from a UAW site as it is pushed to a separate post page.”
He goes on about not getting published and being forced to buy their own service. I have over 500 published posts in less than a fortnight (all hand written – and of course across multiple sites)
NOT ONE has been rejected
And as for the nonsense about PR – argh, why do so many ill informed people perpetuate this rubbish?
If it was true Ezine would just be a one page site, Wordpress.com blogs would be worthless. etc etc.
Sorry for posting here, but some information is just so wrong it needs to be slapped.
(No offence to the OP BTW, just didn’t want another load of people wandering around spreading this kind of nonsense)
Or maybe I do…….. (evil laugh)
Paul, sometimes I’m tempted to let the bad info or misguided comments stay on site to ward away the non-believers, know what I mean? I rank BMR #2, should be more than enough for most people who read this site to make a decision. Having my best Adsense month ever thanks to BMR, but i will go back and edit that “thread” and delete what i now know to be nonsensical comments made by serial refunders who’d never be happy with anything. I promise not to let others be mislead for much longer
I’m with you guys. I say we let this misconception ride! Umm, yeah…BMR doesn’t work at all
Seriously though, BMR has had the biggest impact on my rankings compared with ANY other service. Let the schmucks think what they want. They should keep looking for a service that will give them results over night.
It’s a strange old world.
I have had an epiphany in the last few months.
After over a year of constant crap, and having an adsense network disappear (or get put so low in SERPS it might as well have disappeared) I was at a real low.
It’s fair to say I re-learned “the hard way”. Using pure white hat methods mixed in with a bit of spice. Evaluating tools before purchase or very quickly afterwards. Seeing how they would fit into a linking plan – testing it and if it worked – amplifying it.
Measuring SEO success in a more formalised way. Using the tools I havebought properly and consistently Finding a method that plays to my stregnths (a copywriter and communicator not a web design guru).
Learning how to make links, where to make them to, how to make them more effective , how to get them indexed, how to ramp up a proven link making process quickly.
Thinking outside the box. Sharing some ideas, keeping others very close to my chest.
Yeah yeah, this is what every “guru” knob says. But you know what? My method is my method. I doubt anyone uses the system or toolset I use, and even if some have similar tools, I doubt they use them in the same way that I use them.
I’m now earning money, getting results, and understanding how and why these results occur (as much as anything SEO based can ever be truly unravelled)
I’ve heard crappy “old wives” tales spouted as if they were cast iron truths, then taken the time to see what the facts really were.
I’ve bought crap in the past, but put it all down to experience.
I’m not a well bunny – physically fit, but with a form of topical dementia that means that – unless I find a VERY understanding employer, I need to work for myself.
And I am – and it’s working – and Linkvanareviews has played a small but significant part over the months in my learning process.
Thanks Dan
hey,
What I was wondering was that what if we buy a old domain, get it a new theme, add some 10-15 articles over a week and then start some aggressive link building? Will the old domain be able to take it?
Prateek, Paul’s reply is correct (once again)
If the site remains “on theme” then the answer is probably yes.
The worst that can happen is you temporarily taken out of the pack (or shuffled to the back)) while the SE’s work out your new role.
Getting a ton of good content on ASAP is vital though. A long period without sufficient content on theme will see your PR plummet for sure.
And that only comes back the hard way.(i.e starting again from whatever level they put you)
Have the material ready before you remove the existing content, put it up quick, then resubmit to Googles webmaster tools with a new sitemap.
You should then be able to link the backside off it with minimal disruption.
When building a brand new site with an unseasoned domain name, why not use Linxboss for a couple of your main keyword phrases? Linxboss is an automated system and would steadily send in the links month after month after month. Wouldn’t that work pretty well?
Mar
Mar, I do that but from what I’ve seen LinxBoss works best when linking to an aged site that needs IP diversity in its link profile and some new types of links
I am glad i read this post before making some steps on building backlinks to my site, I think your method works because you have this site on Googles top 10. Just a quick question, i have a new website a few days old. Exactly how many months would it take before i apply a massive linkbuilding campaign?
Hi, that’s a good question, an eternal one it seems. There’s no catch-all answer here. I OPINE that it would serve us well to do either of 2 things for new sites:
1- Just start slow and steady, increase the linking and anchor text over time
2- Ascertain the competition, and the rate at which they’re adding new links with similar anchor text. Also try to determine their link velocity, how old their site is, how many anchor texts they have, when they got them etc.. lotta work here
If #2, then match and exceed slightly their anchor text linking velocity
Also, #3 option would be to let that site and domain age a bit, if it’s a newly registered domain, then just do #1 or #2 after site has solidified a certain ranking settling point, and is getting some traffic.
Thanks,
Dan