In part one of this review on Link Dozer, I gave some background information on what Link Dozer does, but here are some specifics.
- does creation of social bookmarking accounts
- does creation of video profile accounts
- does creation of blog user accounts for WPMU-like blogs for posting content on other’ sites as guest authors
- does creation of sub-domains on WPMU-like sites for posting to “your own blog”
This might look like the usual hodge-podge of stuff you get with SE Nuke, EVO II, Web2Mayhem etc…but here’s where the differences lie between Link Dozer and the rest of the services.
- Link Dozer has the ability to create a TON of content that is highly unique and “correct”.
- Link Dozer can post this content to close to 1000 places
- Your syndicated content in most instances will be seen as original, unique and top quality content, not the usually spun-tent that makes no-sense you can expect from other spinners used by other services.
- SENuke doesn’t give you much of an action plan or easy to follow step-by-step videos
- Web2MAyhem does, which is good
- Not sure about EVO II since I’ll never buy another Peter Drew product or service again due to trying Brute Force Linking Loophole and BadAssRSS fiascos
- Link Dozer gives you strategy first and foremost and the software itself will help keep you organized.
- Web2Mayhem had me going all over the place to use different tools and logins and what-not…and that got me pretty disorganized quickly.
- SE Nuke is a self-contained standalone tool and really good for achieving top rankings for medium to low competition terms ( that’s why the software has a competition checker)
- In my opinion if your tool or service is any good then you really don’t have any competition so screw the competition checkers!
The real reason that Link Dozer MIGHT blow every other service mentioned here out of the water:
Writing,...even prolific writers hate to write when they’re forced to constantly “get more articles out there”.
With all the non-Link Dozer services mentioned here, you will either have to scrape or import seed articles, then spin them prior to submissions, then you’ll have to go through the submissions processes hoping nothing breaks down.
LD has some truly advanced content spinning software that will make it easy to instantly create hordes of unique top quality articles once you’ve done the initial set up steps to get this under way for you (can’t say any more than that, but think of what that piece of crap Mass Article Control was supposed to do, then imagine if it really worked well, that’s what Link Dozer can and does do).
More reasons why Link Dozer MIGHT blow every other service mentioned here out of the water:
- Access to a huge network of quality sites to post content on
- A constantly self-growing network of sites
- community helps each other out in ways that cannot be revealed here but it is could be very powerful
- Organization and action plans superior to SE Nuke, Web2Mayhem (and EVO II from what I hear)
You can get Link Dozer here through my affiliate link, for which I will be compensated.
If you want to wait until I have some concrete testing results from this and an official recommendation, I will have a downloadable PDF available in the near future.
However, Kristina Saric from Link Dozer claims there will be a 300-member limit to Link Dozer. I’m not sure if this is a scarcity tactic though. If you want to wait for my results, please know that this software requires some tech-savviness to understand then use it so final results might be a few weeks from the time of this posting.
UPDATE: My 1st article went out and tons of pingbacks and trackbacks and what-not but not too many of the syndicated content pieces are indexed, so that’s a useless false positive thing; the flurry of trackbacks.
So far, not so good for Link Dozer for my article test.
On the other hand I saw someone else who I do not know using Link Dozer and:
They sent out an article out yesterday
One site that I saw indexed it same day within minutes
The URL being linked to in his article is page 1
Obviously he didn’t get pushed up to page 1 in 5 minutes of the articles being published but here’s a LD user who’s got stuff on page 1 for a decent number of terms. I found some more of his articles and he’s either page 1 or 2 for most of his stuff.
Right now I am pinging and social bookmarking the URLs that my first article was syndicated to, to make sure they’re all indexed and maybe my destination urls will be page 1 as well.
Final Verdict and opinion: It’s more of a slow and steady traffic generation tool than it is a heavy duty link building tool. It’s safe, secure and the methods work, but the learning curve is un-necessarily high in my opinion and the anti-automation “bias” here doesn’t seem to be warranted (automation has it’s value and far better to automated safely than to struggle with learning curves having to do with manual processes than end sup wasting people’s time anyways…when they quit after 3-4 weeks of struggling with the software).
Link Dozer DOES NOT get a thumbs down vote, nor doe sit get a thumbs UP vote. I think Kristina needs to realize that the learning curve for MOST people is kinda ridiculous, even though some people DO get it right away. Some tests I’ve done have shown that not everything submitted gets indexed, and for some other tests that were done, indexed articles providing backlinks didn’t do much to increase rankings.
So WTF is Link Dozer good for????
Safely and reliably building an empire of websites and resources you can post your content to, and the content on those sites’ page, IF you were able to syndicate things properly (after struggling with the spinner), those article son all those websites will rank for some long tail terms and even some medium tail terms(I’ve seen this with my own eyes) and that smattering of long tail traffic will end up driving traffic to your main sites.
However, if you can’t get the spinner to produce tomes oh highly unique and readable material, then it won’t work well at all.
If you DO decide to get Link Dozer:
- Be prepared for a learning curve most folks aren’t comfortable with
- Be prepared for a slow and steady increase in traffic
- Do NOT expect huge linking power from this
- Expect safe, slow and steady results (as measured by traffic increases, not rankings increases)
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Just tried the link to look at Linkdozer and it is going to a 404..
Hey Paul, I was using their cloaking code, and have since removed it, links works ok now, thanks for checking it out.
Dan
Does LinkDozer create an original article for you that ezinearticles.com will accept into their article directory?
Does LinkDozer spin your articles without any input from the user at all?
How is the spinning feature any different than spinning using freetrafficsystem.com?
Does LinkDozer create an original article for you that ezinearticles.com will accept into their article directory?
YES
Does LinkDozer spin your articles without any input from the user at all?
At some point yes Link Dozer could do this, the longer you use it the easier it gets to do just that
How is the spinning feature any different than spinning using freetrafficsystem.com?
All I can say is that LD is nothing like any other spinner out there, everything else out there is pretty much all the same (and inferior) when compared to Link Dozer. I really can’t say more than that, sorry
The 300 limit isn’t really a scarcity tactic that I know of except to keep Link Dozer safe from spammers and people that aren’t “serious” with working and getting over the huge learning curve.
As for their network… expect it to get bigger in the future. It will be more powerful then ezine itself.
As for the spinning features, it’s very impressive.
I hope anyone that joined is impressed with it as well.
I hope it isn’t a scarcity tactic, either.
But it seems funny how Linkvana still hasn’t closed their doors yet, huh?
I find it hard to believe that Linkvana hasn’t met their membership quota yet
Well, technically, it can be more powerful then submitting articles to ezine at the current state, considering how everything works in LD.
Probably because people cancel it within a month or two especially since it’s $147/month and people don’t see much improvement.
Btw, Dan, did you watch the videos in the forum yet?
Elbert, I just got done with all the training videos (close to 3 hours of it there!)
Quite laborious to do that account logins, some places aren’t live anymore, some are dupe domains different areas etc….
I’m going through account creations all this week since it’s really the first part on what to do, and I have the LEAST amount of questions there. I really hate going to forums for help though, but it’s definitely gonna be necessary.
Are you seriously raving about Link Dozer and their Contentina network?
Those are ALL PR0 websites! Every single one of them. Practically no backlinks to them whatsoever. Kristina bought them all together in one shot. You seriously think they will be worth anything in Google’s eyes considering they’re full of the same spun spam content?
And the “advanced spinner”.. you can do the same thing with SEnuke.. check out http://www.senuke.com/blog/?p=65
And after that the “automation” is amazing isn’t it? I think Roboform is more automated, lol. They’ve automated the contentina sites sure, but that’s pretty much useless as I’ve mentioned earlier.
Really don’t see how this is so revolutionary.
Hey Don, I’ve used SE Nuke and its great for what it does. I know several SE Nuke long time users who are in Link Dozer now and almost immediately canceled SE Nuke after joining LD. If you were a member of LD and watched all those videos, you’d understand why…
“Spun spam content”? After reading that I know for a fact you didn’t watch the videos.
And yes, the automation really isn’t there with Link Dozer,which means nothing breaks down, everything gets posted, you have full control over your sites, content etc… and it’s random linking not pre-determined easily identifiable interlinking footprints and link wheels.
I’m not seeking to convert anyone here from SE Nuke to Link Dozer, SE nuke is great for what it does.
Thanks for stopping by Don..
Dan
Sorry, I disagree with you there, Don. The spinner in Link Dozer is STILL much more advance and it is designed not to be total automated, so you have full control of your sites, content, promotion, etc.
Hi Daniel, Every time I setup a new site, I have to outsource the spinning(To achieve high uniqueness I have to rewrite every articles 3 times), will linkdozer help lowering the cost of spinning articles? Also in one of the sales video, I believe it says you don’t have to spend money on content creation, is that true??
Will you suggest replacing many of the link services you review here with LD besides senuke?
Thanks in advance. By the way, thanks for your replies in the other threads.
Once you get things moving with LD, you won’t need a writer and the spinning you do is all done with mouse clicks. It’s quite laborious doing some of this stuff manually though. Whenever I get bogged down doing stuff like account registrations and verifications, I always start pining for BLS which doesn’t need any of that stuff done.
I don’t recommend it over anything yet, but I DO see it’s power. If you’re tech-savvy and focused you’ll kick butt with this software.
Link Dozer looks good, but will be a bear for some people to use at first. I twill get easier to use the more you use it.
Thanks, and you’re welocme,
Dan
1. How long does it take on average to get use to LD for a beginner in automated link building services? Because $97.00 a month is an investment for most people and to have the 1st month be a learning lesson will repel many people, maybe that’s what their intending to do I’m not sure but either way I’m curious to know how long.
2. I spoke to peter at The Link Juicer about running a male enhancement campaign through there service and it was a no go since the policy states:
“In order to protect the interests of all members, you agree not to post content containing objectionable or offensive language and not to promote directly or indirectly adult, mature, sexually explicit or illegal content, warez, gambling or pharmaceuticals.” – The Link Juicer
My question to you is this, Is LD male enhancement friendly?
3. Also, since I am a newbie at automated link building systems, would LD be your #1 recommended product to someone with my lack of experience?
Hi Andy, great questions and feedback, too.
I don’t think Backlink solutions has any stipulations about viagra-like content, and I’m pretty sure there Unique Article Wizard would have somewhat relevant sites that would accept this type of content . what you should try to do to remain under the radar is remember that article marketing and syndication is done for backlinks mainly and bare minimum of direct traffic. Therefore you should write generic articles about Men’s Health, which is seemingly more generic and under the radar than “Viagra Pharmacecutical Trial Offer” as an article title.
I think LD would be male enhancement friendly yes.
I estimate it will take a week of 2-hour days before someone could be fully comfortable with using Link dozer
Is the spinner anything like thebestspinner.com?
From what I have read and seen I am starting to think that maybe it is. I know you can’t give any details but a hint would be nice
Cheers.
The Best spinner does synonym replacements, and doesn’t come close to what Link Dozer’s spinner does, although it is similar in one area.
I wish there wasn’t so much hush-hush about this so I could tell you exactly what it does and why nothing else compares
Btw, I would recommend you people should be giving some thought before you join. Google some reviews about Link Dozer.
There is NO refund for this service.
There is a really HUGE learning curve for the tool and how to using it effectively. You will probably spend the first month watching re-videos and playing around with the tool.
The community is only for serious workers. If you want something automated everything, like SENuke, then this tool isn’t for you. The software will never be totally automated.
It isn’t faint for the heart.
I agree, there is a bit of a learning curve here that makes first impressions of SE Nuke make SE nuke seem simple by comparison. However, it does have the innate ability to keep everything really well organized for users, and that’s a permanent effect.
The learning curve is only a temporary effect.
I am jotting down all my original questions about using this tool in case this becomes a “recommended service”, and if that happens a best practices guide and/or video like the one I give away for Backlink Solutions will be provided for buyers.
Elbert, as you know the video I made for BLS was simple and made things simpler, Link Dozer may prove harder to make a best practice video for, though, so it seems.
Thanks for helping everyone understand this some more, the feedback and reality checks are appreciated and always welcome,
Dan
Hi Daniel,
just wanted to pop in and say thank you for LD review and your answers on comments,
it was just what I am looking for, since thinking heawily to join LD;
I read all LD review and all of them have that “good felling” inside,
looking forward for your LD results review;
all the best !
Klemen
.-= Klemen´s last blog ..Keyword research service, finding you goldmines of undiscovered keywords =-.
Hey Klemen thanks for stopping by,
As you can probably tell most Link Dozer reviews, mine included don’t really have a whole lot to say about Link Dozer except for what does.
No real proof of results that matter can be seen thus far. That’s what I try to do here on this site, not pull wool over people’s eyes telling them “my keyword was page 4 now its top 4 on page 1!!!” etc… because the savvy seo/link builder knows that easy terms get page 1 with minimal effort. Once I get to know and use Link Dozer a little bit better, I’ll find some new terms to test then update this review….
Right now, I am wrapping up testing of profiles link building, Free Traffic system, EZArticleLink, and the Spin Distribute service, plus developing a profiles link building service that’s good for a totally hands-off 150 do-follow backlinks a month (should profiles link building be of any real value that is…)
Thanks,
Dan
Anyways… there’s going to be an awesome major update soon. It just blows me mind, literally. I don’t care if I sound like some cheerleader, coolaid kid screaming like a little girl. That example that Kristina posted is really awesome.
I’ll be doing some tests on my own as well, after I get my things setup and my articles written.
Dan, I think you should just drop doing the profiles links test. It’s just not worth it, in my opinion. The gain is very little, just because it has a PR 7 or 8, it really mean nothing.
Yeah, I just saw that update notification about releasing that BETA soon, which is awesome. I am going through the extra videos on strategies while I wait for my forum questions to be answered. I also emailed them to you Elbert, in case you had some answers.
Right now I got dozens and dozens of things registered, maybe close to a hundred who knows, made some attempts at projects and items, will attempt to build something soon…
NOTE: I have to test profiles link building out to have more than an opinion about its effectiveness. I really don’t take anyone’s word on what works, what doesn’t work in SEO and link building since there’s so much conflicting information. And I’m not doing the testing myself but have had the building and the testing outsourced.
Please respond to my email if you have time, or grab me on Skype again.
Thanks,
Dan
Hey Dan. Got your email. Hope that answer some of your questions.
I’m a member of LD and I’ll bet money membership closes at 300. And I bet the price goes up soon. No affiliate link from me, use Dan’s. This is his rodeo.
We can’t say a lot because of a confidentiality agreement. But most, if not all, of us wouldn’t because, frankly, we don’t want you to know. LD is a HUGE edge that you can’t have unless you join.
But if you are a noob not ready to put in a LOT of work in the beginning, or if you aren’t willing to put in a lot of time creating you own advanced content…use the Spam Tools.
Buddy
Hi Dan,
Regarding your comment:
“The Best spinner does synonym replacements, and doesn’t come close to what Link Dozer’s spinner does, although it is similar in one area.”
The best spinner actually does phrase replacements. It seems to depend on what users save as their “favorites”. So if a user saves a replacment that’s an entire phrase it would be available to other users.
Is this something that LD offers? Or maybe you can’t say?
Anyway, thanks for the solid review. Looking forward to your results. though I’m probably going to pick up LD soon anyway. Looks like it’s at least worth the $97/month.
Mike
Hi, I didn’t know the Best Spinner did that. That makes sense then and sounds like a pretty good spinner then, perhaps deserving of the name The BEST Spinner.
Not sure if I am allowed to tell you whether Link Dozer has this or not, but suffice to say that I won’t be needing The Best Spinner any time soon.
Thanks for the feedback,
Dan
Hi Sean , I leave trackbacks open to see what new incoming links are being generated from some services I use the I delete them afterward. Trackbacks work like Google Alerts to let you know sooner rather than later when new links are out there linking to your site.
Nothing new on my end personally with LD since I’ve been sick all week and pretty much too brain-dead to try and work through some parts of the learning curve
Ah….I thought people were just spamming the site…thats cool.
You wouldn’t happen to have a page here that says how to do that. I never actually kept track of my links…i just try to build them, though i suppose I should try and start to track and keep better records.
When you write a blog post there’s an option to allow trackbacks and comments, so you just enable this and let them come in (if at all). It’s not a perfectly reliable system, but it does allows you to lend some weight (social bookmarking) to those links to make them stick. This is basically what Backlink Solutions does, and why BLS works so well, there’s power behind the links, and they stick
Follow-up:
And when you want to delete all these trackbacks off your site, go to Comments section in WP Admin panel and sort comments by PINGS, and delete them 20-25 at a time, just be careful, because the admin panel reverts backs to displaying Comments, not PINGS after you delete a bunch
Hey Dan,
When do you want to talk on Skype about LD? I’m not exactly sure when you are on.
Would u recommend link dozer or backlink solutions? Which site gives higher quality links?
BLS works quicker and faster, and not much of a learning curve.
Link Dozer is more scalable and has a steeper learning curve
As far as quality of backlinks are concerned, I’d have to say Link Dozer provides the higher quality backlinks because they’d be coming from/being generated by quality sites and amidst quality content
I couldn’t get Link Dozer to work. I’m on Windows 7 so maybe that has something to do with it but who knows. I had to deal with a whole lot of bugs before finally giving up after watching hours of videos.
I can’t talk to much about this but this is some of the things I noticed right away.
* The email creation did not work and after about 10 minutes I gave up and did it in SENuke in about 2 seconds.
* Profile import did not work crashed application the first time and took several tries to apparently be successful – then got out of profile boxes later on.
* Registering for the special blogs did not work. Was forced to use task manager to get out of the program.
* Auto form fill did not work as expected.
* The content spinner did not work period. Very disappointed in this.
I gave up at this point and didn’t bother trying to use the rest of the features as nothing I had tried so far had worked correctly. So this was a hundred bucks down the toilet. I canceled after one day and a lot of frustration.
Link Dozer does have somewhat of a learning curve. Not a bad one (if you can sit through the hours of videos). This program is not for someone who isn’t doing most of their submissions manually. This program is really an organizer for your SEO campaigns. If someone was doing all their link building by hand, this application would keep them organized and possibly save them some time if it worked correctly. The problem is it doesn’t work correctly.
This program does NOT teach you about SEO. It does not setup your random linkwheels or whatever. The user does all of this themselves with no guidance from the system.
I have seen the content this application produces and I’m not impressed. It produces standard spun text that I can spot a mile away. I think people are confusing quality with unique here.
The selling point for this system is it works better and your links will have staying power to keep your site at the top of the search engines. Here is an idea. Promote your backlinks and see if that doesn’t do the same thing. Just common sense here people and basic SEO.
Another commenter on asked about Back Link Solutions. BLS works very well and I would use them over Link Dozer any day.
Dave, I appreciate you trying to help but you’re dead wrong on so many points here that I wonder if you really even used it.
I have Windows 7, I got it to work, Content Spinner works. If you couldn’t get content spinner to work then how are you not impressed with content output?
They provide you with an email to use, so there’s no email creation part to get frustrated with.
It does teach you about SEO, a lot actually.
It does set up random link wheels, its one of the things that’s taught there…
Since LD is a self contained network, you can be registered on hundreds of blogs in 5-10 minutes automatically, and with different logins and usernames for each one stored in the system for you,
I could go on and on on all your incorrect points but why bother, you tried for a day and quit, and it takes at least 1 day to just watch all the videos, then a few more days to build the other stuff up.
BTW Dan,
Couldn’t help but notice in the Comment Policy on your pages
“Please lick the ReTweet (TweetMeme) buttons”
I’m assuming this is a typo or you are having some fun with internet newbies
Thanks, I’ll fix it
Alright Dan,
ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE!
I always give my honest opinion. I have absolutely no financial interest in any of the products listed on this website. Why would I bash a product I thought would be useful to the readers here? I wouldn’t. I recommend what’s good and point out what I don’t like about a service.
I pointed out problems with The Link Juicer. Guess what? Those problems were fixed although I may have hurt the owners pride a little bit. Now The Link Juicer is on your recommended page. As it should be.
Replies like “I wonder if you really even used it” or “I could go on and on on all your incorrect points but why bother, you tried for a day and quit, and it takes at least 1 day to just watch all the videos, then a few more days to build the other stuff up” are less than helpful.
I do this shit for a living and it doesn’t take me days to set up a program. Xrumer took me all of about 20 minutes to figure out. That’s just rude Dan. Why you wanna be hostile like that?
Now we agree about 90 to 95% of the time but on Link Dozer it’s a huge disagree. I am telling you that this was unusable on my system. Maybe it was my box (I have a very high end computer) but maybe it wasn’t. I was not able to use it. Period.
Replies in bold:
Alright Dan,
ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE!
Relax and/or grow up please, this isn’t a p—-ing contest, and I could care less what a less knowledgeable person thinks. I know what I know and with respect toward certain things I know more than most people. There’s too much bad info (and reviews!) out there in the SEO world, so authoritative true knowledge is what I’m after, not the opposite, and it’s the purpose of this blog, basically.
I always give my honest opinion.
So do I, after thoroughly reviewing and using something for a while. Far better to say that something took XYZ days to figure out than to say, “I couldn’t get it to work at all”
I have absolutely no financial interest in any of the products listed on this website.
On the other hand I DO have a vested interest in some of the products of this website since I’m an affiliate of some of the programs and services being touted here. Since I do have much to gain (and much to lose) by making recommendations, I feel the need for accuracy, which is why you’re getting shut down here, I can’t let your inaccurate statements slide by.
Why would I bash a product I thought would be useful to the readers here? I wouldn’t. I recommend what’s good and point out what I don’t like about a service.
Same thing that I do, just more accurately though
I pointed out problems with The Link Juicer. Guess what? Those problems were fixed although I may have hurt the owners pride a little bit. Now The Link Juicer is on your recommended page. As it should be.
Replies like “I wonder if you really even used it” or “I could go on and on on all your incorrect points but why bother, you tried for a day and quit, and it takes at least 1 day to just watch all the videos, then a few more days to build the other stuff up” are less than helpful.
I do this shit for a living and it doesn’t take me days to set up a program. Xrumer took me all of about 20 minutes to figure out. That’s just rude Dan. Why you wanna be hostile like that?
Strike 1- You said Link Dozer doesn’t teach you about SEO. You’re wrong, she does.
Strike 2- You said Link Dozer doesn’t make open ended link wheels. You’re wrong it does, it’;s in on eof the videos, and is part of what’s TAUGHT here.
Strike 3- You said the email creator doesn’t work, you’re wrong about this too since there’s no need for an email creaor because they’ve already done that for you, plus provided hundreds of aliases that can be and are associated with that email address
Dave, you’ve been pretty rude with some of your comments here on this site directed towards the newbies you look down your nose at.
Now we agree about 90 to 95% of the time but on Link Dozer it’s a huge disagree.
This means you’re right 90-95% of the time then
I am telling you that this was unusable on my system. Maybe it was my box (I have a very high end computer) but maybe it wasn’t. I was not able to use it. Period.
I have a Dell Inspiron laptop with Windows 7 on it and it works fine, so the issue there is with your high-end box, not with Link Dozer and not with Windows 7
Might want to watch this video if you’re thinking of switching from Windows 7 to Windows vista
I have tried Link Dozer for almost 2 months now and after some initial excitement I must say I am rather disappointed, and let me tell you why
Buggy it is, even though Kristina is great at customer service and helps you out and does fix issues and actually she even refunded me the first month of service due to the many issues.
To date, the yahoo mail creator is not working (Yahoo changed the format about a month ago and LinkDozer has not yet been updated), the populate form will fill only 1 or 2 fields and even those are misplaced (username in zipcode field for instance)
The ‘powerful’ spinner will not allow you to spin sentences, you can only select groups of 6 words or less for spinning
the account creation is NOT automated, you have to go through all the sites and manually click the various submit buttons etc and again some of the sites have changed the forms and are not updated, plus there are still tons of kickapps sites that are unusable (after senuke users spammed the hell out of them…) yet they are still listed and you have to wade through them to figure what is what
the amount of sites you can post to is nowhere close to 1000 as mentioned above, unfortunately, maybe closer to 150/200 I would sayPLUS the C1 and C2 sites really shouldn’t be counted twice as they are on the same IP/domain, just different subdomains, PLUS the c1 / C2 sites have low to no PR AND in some cases they are from the same IP thus not really giving you much benefit in terms of IP diversity.
True, you have the peace of mind of knowing that even though you don’t own the sites you can post/edit/delete as if they were and above all be sure that your blog will not be removed, but is that worth the price tag? I personally don’t think so and again, I have been using it intensively for 2 months+
Marco
.-= marco´s last blog ..California and The Gold Rush =-.
Hey Marco, you should cancel your subscription. It’ll be better for the LD community and yourself.
Hey Dan, can we talk on skype? I have a question about something and I can’t post it here on public.
Elbert, I’m on Skype all day, just turn yours on and you’ll see me with status online most likely
Hey Elbert, I did cancel it, however I think I am still entitled to have my opinion and express it??
marco
.-= marco´s last blog ..California and The Gold Rush =-.
Yes you are entitled to your comments and feedback, thank you for those.
Sometimes people get possessive, defensive or territorial about the programs or services they use. Many SE Nuke people got mad at me for opining that Link dozer was/is better than SE Nuke. Fact is, it’d be great if some things in Link Dozer were more automated, but what’s being Taught is very valuable and worth the first month’s fee, easily
Hey Macro, I wasn’t attacking you or anything, you are entitled to have your opinions.
I was just stating that since you had a hard time using the software, it’s better to cancel it since you’re just wasting money.
However, the reason I sound like the way I was is this… I saw duplicated content in the C1, the article was even not even changed one bit, and it look like it was blasted out into the blogs, and I see the 2 same links pointed back to your blog. I’m fairly certain they belong to you?
I apologize if I sound like I’m latching at you, but I am very sure Kristina explicitly stated to never post duplicated content to the C1/C2, because as she stated herself : “If you intend to post the SAME ARTICLE you will get duplicated content which is a BIG NO NO. Every duplicated article can potential penalize your compaign. I am not saying this because of me,, or because it is someone’s imaginary idea, but because it CAUSES DAMAGE to your SEO to publish duplicated articles as well as to the sites that you post your articles to.”
There is no duplicate content penalty. All that will happen is Google will only index one of the pages. The site being linked to and the site publishing the duplicate content will not be penalized in any way.
That said not spinning the article would be a huge waste of time because only one link would count when posting to all these blogs.
http://linkvanareviews.com/duplicate-content-penalty-test-quick-update
Hi Elbert,
yes I did have a few duplicate articles, and Kristina was notified of it, as it actually happened while i was having issues with LD. Like it was hanging on me and the only way was to shut it down via the Task Manager. People were having the same issue with registrations where LD would hang and they would get like 600 registratin emails from one of the C1 sites, there were several cases posted in the forums) . I actually spent a number of late night hours with Kristina on MSN trying and testing for her and for the other members and, AGAIN, i think she does a great job.
I am perfectly aware that of what was said about duplicate content, though I think it is partially a myth,(there is an interesting post on google webmaster central dating back to 2008 demistifying it..) and yes i did sometimes articles that were not changed one but BUT, those were Ezinearticles, copied verbatim from EzineArticles, as a regular blog owner would(should) do.
Still , the number of blogs where you can post to is very limited. posting to articles.domain1.com and then to news.domain1.com still shows backlinks coming from ONE IP, and on top of that most of those domains have 0 to no PageRank.
And also the content spinner restriction to six words sequences is a severe limitation.
I am not saying it is bad or a scam or anything like, i do think Kristina is a great person and always ready to help, just that it is overrated , and that of course is my personal opinion, and it still forces you to do a lot of tasks yourself or outsource those tasks, which could be fine by some people but it is not what I was looking for.
marco
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Hi David,
That’s what I meant by penalty, all the duplicates will get discarded or don’t count, eventually by google. What I meant by damaging the site is, it can also deindex the whole site publishing the duplicate contents, if the site is over use in duplicated content.
Macro, you can try out BLS and or ezearticles.com, I’m still seeing great result with BLS, just use the things taught from Kristina and use them on BLS and you get even better results.
I hear good things about ezearticles.com from people, and you can outsource spinning from articles for couple of bucks with their writers. I haven’t use it since I chose LD over ezearticles.com at that time.
Hey guys,
Elbert, I’m on Skype almost all the time
Marco, I not only demystified the whole dupe content issue but also proved it and showed others how to demystify it for themselves here > http://linkvanareviews.com/duplicate-content-penalty-test-quick-update
David, thanks for pointing out that on site reference.
Folks, the easiest thing to do when faced with indecision on seo myths, ideas, theories, etc,,… is merely to go out and test things in a reasonable way
Elbert no a site using extensive duplicate content will not be de-indexed. Imagine a blog that has several post excerpts on it’s homepage – this will probably (at least in my experience) get past the duplicate content filter and Google will index it. Of course this imaginary blog will only rank for the keyword phrase in its domain name as its pages have been flagged by the duplicate content filter.
Google has only a few things it will do to any site it considers to be misbehaving. There is a -30 and a -950 penalty, de-indexing (rare) or nullifying the value of certain types of incoming links. Do some research and know what these are and why they are applied. This will help you quit worrying about Big G and focus on getting traffic to your sites.
David’s right, the pages get de-indexed not the site, but site will only rank for keywords in its domain name.
I found this on google, thanks for writing this, it was just what I was searching for!
Thanks for the review, such as it is… I’ve never seen such secretive software before. I’m gathering from what I’ve read so far that the software is great, though it may be buggy (as most newer software is). It keeps you organized, lots of great features, semi-automatic link building, and very good training which is sorely needed due to the steep learning curve.
But the one thing I haven’t seen is results. Even just a preliminary set would be helpful so that we can get some idea whether of not this service is worth the money. It doesn’t matter how many cool features the software has (or how great the content spinning is) if it doesn’t do the job it was intended to do!
I agree with you 100% and I really don’t like writing informative reviews without showing some sort of results to back things up and deliver a verdict of sorts, but LD got me all wrapped up in some video tutorials and complicated other stuff, so I ended up canceling it and just using a LD user to syndicate an article for me as the test I am doing for this. This test article is going out in a few days (hopefully) so I will post results soon.
LD’s “secret” has a lot to do with what The Best Spinner does, fyi
Cool, I’ll watch for the update. I have The Best Spinner, which I think is great (if a bit quirky at times) so I think I have an idea of the LD “secret” you are talking about. Still, I’m not going to pay LD $97 per month for a spinner, unless there is really something else that sets it apart. I look forward to the update.
Yeah, article is done now to get it off to syndication land. LD makes it real easy to make an rss feed out of your submitted article sand ping them and ping the syndicated articles as well, right from the interface, plus allows for social bookmarking right from the interface. I liked their interface better than SE Nuke’s because it was presenting you with logical to-do steps at the right times AND in the right areas.
Everyone talks about LD’s learning curve and yet the software interface is something even Jakob Nielsen would approve of. What Nielsen writes about > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/action-object-closeness.html
By “right from their interface” do you mean “using the built-in browser”. Because if LD does not do automatic submissions, it seems to me that The Best Spinner (which I mention because it seems to be most similar to LD’s spinner) + any browser with the ability to save favorites (i.e. all of them) would work just as well.
Seems that the only thing that might set LD apart is their own internal blog network, but from the feedback I’ve read it doesn’t look like their sites carry all that much authority. Be interesting to see how your test syndication goes.
Hey Jason, yes right from the interface you can grab the already-created RSS feed and ping it, plus syndication is done form the tool itself much like SE Nuke does, just in a more organized way, at least that’s how I perceive Link Dozer (as a more organized manner of syndicating and backlinking syndicated content).
Test article results: Day One.
URL 1 moved up one spot on page 1
URL 2 has not moved at all (harder term)
URL3 has moved up 5 spots on page 4
I can email you the urls and Kws if you’re interested in watching their progress on your own and so you can see these are real urls being tested, and what their variety is as far as competition levels are concerned
One other note about this single article syndication test, I’m seeing close to 100% ratio for sites syndicated to and getting pingbacks from
Hi Daniel & Jason K.
I like this thread, it is actually the sole dealing much in details outside of LD forum,
I agree, that spinning could be done in simillar way with Best spinner, but impossible without knowledge and understanding on how and why, that Kristina represents in videos. @ Jason K. dont mistake Best spinner for LD, since LD is in essence content manipulation tool; the hardest part is to compile an article, once u ve done that, the rest will be fun to watch
And regarding that, I would kindly ask you Daniel, if you would share your test article results with urls and keywords with me too?
thank you,
Klemen
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Clemen, one url has moved from page7, to 6, and is now at page 4 right next to another url i am testing. So now the real test begins and we’ll see if this one article spun to kingdom come with keep having an effect or if it stops with a settling point of page 4. To share the urls will mean more links from me being pointed to them and I don’t want to affect the results in any way
I am new here. First, I want to thank you for this informative site and thank you all for contributing here. I am really trying to find out what is best for me and my limited budget. I am trying to decide between UAW (which I used about a year ago with good results but had to cancel due to too many bugs with their program at that time), SENuke and LinkDozer. Sooo, here we go.
My question is to Daniel, am I understanding correctly that you canceled your subscription to LD because the learning curve is too steep? Not sure if I read this correctly.
It seems to me the only downfall of this program is the high price tag to learn the program (as opposed to being able to use the service right away). I feel a little intimidated at paying nearly $100 for a program only to find out I don’t have the technical skills to use it. Am I on the right track with this thinking?
Thank you, again. I’ll be watching for your updates to your articles as well.
cindy p.
Hi Cindy, thanks for stopping by and for your question…
Yes, the learning curve for Link Dozer is what made me cancel, this time around. Stick with Unique Article Wizard if you’re on a budget, in many ways its more powerful than a lot of the other services out there because it can provide quite the boost for your link wheels. Read this post on using Unique Article Wizard effectively and implement it and you’ll have no problems seeing results
Thank you. I will watch out for any follow-ups you have.
UPDATE: So far, not so good for Link Dozer for my article test.
My 1st article went out and tons of pingbacks and trackbacks and what-not but not too many of the syndicated content pieces are indexed, so that’s a useless false positive thing; the flurry of trackbacks.
On the other hand I saw someone else who I do not know using Link Dozer and:
They syndicated out an article out yesterday
One site that I saw indexed it same day within minutes
The URL being linked to in his article is page 1
Obviously he didn’t get pushed up to page 1 in 5 minutes of the articles being published but here’s a LD user who’s got stuff on page 1 for a decent number of terms. I found some more of his articles and he’s either page 1 or 2 for most of his stuff.
Right now I am pinging and social bookmarking the URLs that my first article was syndicated to, to make sure they’re all indexed and maybe my destination urls will be page 1 as well
Hi Dan,
Just firts of all want to thank you for your efforts on this site. Your reviews are one of the only trustworthy ones out there. Your help and work here really is priceless.
I’m a subscriber of Linkdozer, but are struggling with the learning curve – more a time factor than anything else. I have a write in the Philippines that is currentl writing for me full time, posting on Linkvana and usual article directories, hubpages, etc.
I think Kristina is one of the smartest folks in the SEO worls today and sticking around Linkdozer is well worth the effort. My thinking now however is to keep ny writer busy in the meantime with a service that will perhaps complement Linkvana.
Now I’m thinking UAW. Having seen Kristina’s revolutionare take on spinning I’m quite carefull to subscribe to a service that’s going to basically make the mistake most spinners do. Is UAW good enough to overcome these concerns..?
Thanks
W
Hey Wiehan, thanks for stopping by and for the feedback.
There’s 2 sides to the general opinion of Link Dozer (it’s needlessly complicated versus it’s unique and “revolutionary”)
I’ve done UNnatural link building and achieved good results, what LD espouses is being as natural as possible in every way imaginable by having the sites linking to you be deemed quality sites, by creating natural linking patterns, social bookmarking accounts etc…
Kristina is a smart cookie for sure and some of her answers on the forum and StomperNet material but as I have always stated, a service needs to be somewhat user friendly in order for people to WANT to deal with it. Some programs don’t give people good strategies but give good user interfaces, and others do the opposite.
I’ve yet to see a program that does both but Link Dozer has some new features coming out soon (next few months) that will make everything a lot easier to use, which means either a price increase or lifting the membership rolls because the easier this is to use the more people will want to use it.
I made a mistake in my testing with article syndication via Link Dozer. I did not interlink/ link to other sites in this network so the benefits were minimal but I have 3 more days to see what a basic article syndication did for results since its taking a longer time than usual for all of the syndications to get indexed (apparently this is/was a fluke).
UAW still does a good job and while I don’t track each and every article I syndicate with them, my Google Alerts are still picking up articles I submitted 4-6 months ago which to me is a good sign.
Thanks,
Dan
Well, Daniel, I am a member of Link Dozer and this is my opinion on it: It is still too early to tell, the whole system is new, but what I predict is that it will be more and more powerful during time. New patches will come, beta spinning will come, more blogs will come and price will probably go up, not even mentioning the 300 limit. What will happen is that more people will try to get in but they wont be able too, or it will be too expensive to them. That is a reason why I will stick with it because I believe in it.
Not to mention that with beta and those blogs gaining some PR during time (and they will!) LD system will be much more powerful then today.
Also Google is improving their algorithm each day, and other spamming programs will have a difficult time with catching up. There is no doubt about it, the only concern is, when would that happen, if it is 4 years from now then LD fails.
What do you think about all this? I will stick with the software, but if I dont get results in 4-6 months of hard work I will give up and do it the spammy way
Hey Matej, good points and questions here.
LD does have some exciting updates coming out in the near future but SEO changes quickly and what works now is what needs to be focused on, not on what might available or work later on, someday, in 2,3,4,5,6 months.
It seems to me that the network is the true value here, but to harness Link Dozer’s power you should interlink some of these sites together when you’re syndicating articles to build their link juice as well as linking outwardly to your destination sites.
Hey Dan,
I’m taking a serious look at Link Dozer and wanted to know if you recommend it above TLJ. I’ll probably keep TLJ as I’m still weighing it’s results. At this point, It does seem good for boosting pages that need a push for long-tail phrases with low to moderate competition. I do like the variety of links it brings, too.
Anyway, you mentioned that Link Dozer requires some kind of downloadable software. Do you know if it uses Windows Installer?
I had a Vista nightmare a while back that has left my Windows Installer impotent and Microsoft’s support has pretty much left me to fend for myself. Until I upgrade (plan to get a Mac Book Pro), I’m steering clear of anything that relies on Windows Installer to function. If push comes to shove, though, I can always use my dinosaur of a PC if the Link Dozer’s software does require Windows Installer.
Thanks,
Paul
Hey Paul, Link Dozer’s application is much like SE nuke’s application in that it DOES run an installer and you do a lot of your work from that interface. I installed it on a Window 7 box without any issues so Vista should take the install without issues.
Link Dozer is way more powerful than TLJ hence the price difference, but my initial test runs produced a lot of non-indexed links that I had to figure out how to get indexed. I’ve chatted with a few Link Dozer users and the ones who slogged through the learning curve are happy wit hit.
Others, like pro-SEOs, don’t have the time or didn’t want to spend time trying to learn the software and the system and some disagreed with some controversial statements she made about SEO in the forum. I hear the social bookmarking part o fLink dozer doesn’t work that great,
If you get it, make sure you cross link to the other articles in the network when doing submissions.
So if you submit to 500 places, submit to 50 sites first that link directly to you, then use the rest of the submissions and links to link to those 50 sites/urls. That’ll pretty much guarantee you that the 50 initial sites will have a good amount of link juice coming IN to them, thus providing link juice-laden outbound links (towards your money site urls)
If I were you, I’d hold off on Link Dozer until they make their software and system more user-friendly.
Also, I am testing something else out right now that’s 30 dollars less a month, seems a lot more powerful than anything I’ve seen to date, and requires NO writing whatsoever.
That review will be out in about a week or so. Keep using TLJ and use it according to Peter’s best practices, UAW is next best option now that BLS is closed out.
Thanks, that’s good to know. I was planning on giving Link Dozer a spin around the 15th or so. But I’ll hold off.
Do they have any plans to make it more user-friendly? If so, have they announced an ETA? I’ll keep using my BLS, UAW, TLJ combo in the meantime.
What’s this I hear about no writing? Care to drop the name of this service via email. I’ll keep it hush-hush.
If not, I’ll just wait on the review.
Email sent Paul, review will be out in a week from today. Truly amazing system they have there, far superior conceptually than anything I’ve seen to date in all the services I’ve reviewed. Kind of amazed they’re not charging 5X the asking price.
We’ll see how it goes
Yep, I agree. I was shocked at the price myself. It’s a really smart looking system. The savings on content creation alone seems to be worth the asking price and more.
I’m gonna have my wife hide my debit card while I sit on my hands for a week. Looking forward to that review of yours. You should rename your site “Link Building Ninja Training” or “SEO Samurai School.”
Lol Dan you really got me curious now! Can you whisper me, I wont tell anyone!
)) Cant wait for a review!
Sorry man, that was not my intention, to arouse curiosity, didn’t know people read comments other than their own,
I feel obliged to the readers of this blog, and you. to not mention new programs until their tested out for a bit. One of the owners was nice enough to allow me to test a couple more urls now that he knows that I’m writing a review on it.
5 URLs and SERPs for 15 different keywords are being tested now, and we should start seeing som epreliminary results by the end of the week. Maybe I’ll fast-forward the posting of that review then.
FYI, the review’s already been written, just need to fill in the results section
Np Dan, cant wait to read the review. Cheers to you!
A lot of people will say the software is unusable, confusing, and poorly coded, unnecessary complicated seo, etc.
It has already been STATED several times possibly everywhere that there is a huge steep learning curve on how to use the tool, and everything about it. It’s really not for everyone, to be honest.
Regardless, I disagree with them all. I find the the tool simple, flexible and straightforward to use, just like it was intended. I also don’t have software complication either, not sure why so many people do.
Because it take so damn long to set things up, especially your resources, and I bet most users don’t last more than a month, you’ll rarely find any success stories… but there are a few in the forum.
Ever since Dan mentioned to me about Link Dozer couple months ago, and what I learned in there, my perspective on “seo” and “link building” changed drastically. The things taught in there make a lot more sense for me then what I read on seo forums/blogs.
At of this moment, I like/prefer LD over BLS, mostly because of the core principals taught in there, and the resources provided.
@Elbert… but do you get good RESULTS?
Yeah, got results, much happier than I expect myself to be. I find that my ranking to be much more stable compared to other methods and with just using BLS.
BLS usually give me a quick burst of power, but for some odd reason, it just fall off within a few days, and then I need to build more links. With LD, my ranking seem to jump a lot less and I can see that the traffic that I’m observing on aweber or analytics moves in a upward trend. I rarely get that even with using BLS or anything else.
About a week ago, Dan wanted me to rank this 2 words keyword on page 1 for the url for this site, it was at page 2 at that time, pretty low on competition as well. After a bit of promotion, it landed right below no. 4 spot for few days before it fell to page 4. Now just waiting to see if it bounce back stronger.
Now, the site that I’m promoting with LD, is just a small adsense site, 10 pages, and compared to my other 10 pages sites, this site is just out performing all of them. Even my total page impressions and clicks is much higher. It took close to a months or so before I really see the drastic changes.
I’m at the moment promotion a new site, same thing, 10 pages adsense site. This time, thought, I’m only use LD and no other promotions. Started about a month ago, didn’t noticed much at first and it took a while, but for the last 2 weeks, there’s a trend of upward of traffic.
I’m going to continue to use LD for all of my sites and see if there are any drastic improvement on them.
Overall, the results took longer for me then it needs to be but it got there. I noticed that everything about LD is pretty subtle. I suppose it make sense, since LD is for longevity in term on using it.
The more I use LD, the more I begin to understand what LD is and what Kristina is try build here. I still need to make more improvement and on how to use the tool effectively though.
Chiming in here to verify that what Elbert’s saying is legit. We did test out some phrases and those didn’t do so well in the SERPs, which is a shame really, so it seems like this is more of a slow-burn type of system whereby the subtlety of getting an ever-increasing number on long tail phrase traffic will lead to more traffic in the long term somewhere somehow .
The learning curve and usage is un-necessarily tough though, IMO
Daniel, I have 600 sites to build traffic for and am dying to know what you are testing…so I can at least take a cursory glance…based on your comments. Will you at least divulge the product name? Thanks, Brad
Brad, right now it’s been almost 1 week and the results aren’t mind-blowing. I have your email address since you left a comment here and I’ll email you the link when it’s worth talking about/showing to people
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