I chatted with Justin from LinkLicious.me today about his service. Here’s what it is and does…
LinkLicious is a tool/service that will index or boost your backlinks by making and hosting RSS feeds (RSS link dumps) for you on their site, then will also ping those RSS feed urls to get them crawled.
Here’s how it works from an end user’s perspective.
- You join (free)
- Add links – take a list of forum profiles you had created, or your list of urls from Article Marketing Robot, My Link Club, The Link Juicer, or even your current list of credited links and paste them into an area on LinkLicious interface.
- Specify how many links/urls you want in each RSS feed
- LinkLicious takes that list of urls you provided and makes the RSS feeds
- Then you get those RSS feeds pinged, and you can even schedule the RSS feeds creation and pinging schedules.
What’s the benefit or purpose to all of this?
To help get a massive amount of links CRAWLED, which is the first step towards getting a backlink indexed then credited.
Some other points of interest:
LinkLicious is good for DripFeedblasts users because they have an API that allows DFB to work directly with LL, so DFB links and campaigns can be directly ported over to your LinkLicious account automatically via their API to help get your automatically generated DFB backlinks indexed crawled ….automatically (kinda)
LinkLicious also does this with/for My Link Club users, and could work for The Link Juicer members, too. I’m not a fan of My Link Club or The Link Juicer right now because they’re indexing rates aren’t great and many urls generated get deleted, but the main issue is that not much gets indexed…
However, if you use either of those 2 services, you ARE indeed creating a lot of un-indexed backlinks and a service like LinkLicious is a good remedy for that. Some day this might change my mind about those programs and others like it, because they do give you the list of your generated backlinks so it could possibly be better than something like Unique Article Wizard which doesn’t give you a list of urls generated/published (such idiots).
Before you get this….
RSS feeds created are only hosted for 30 days, which is a major downside to this idea… but the whole idea of Link LinkLiciousis based only on getting urls crawled, so that your un-noticed, long-forgotten, un-indexed, non-credited backlinks out there on the Internet get closer to becoming
1-indexed,
2-cached,
3- then credited…
Pinging calls attention to something but hardly ever permanently indexes, and the same goes for rss feed links, too and all that LinkLicious does is calls attention to “forgotten by the search engines” backlinks you created, so it only needs to be temporary, and that’s why it’s designed the way it is.
Some things will change on this service and I’ve discussed some ideas with Justin that will value-ad to an already valuable idea, so maybe my free consultations and advice will lead to a discount for future users someday 
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In meantime LL is free at both levels, so check it out here Now a paid service
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Excellent post, I can see this being a very powerful and super easy tool to use with Article Marketing Robot.
On that note, I got a quick question for using this service with AMR and making reports. Should I choose the output as HTML and then just copy paste everything over to linklicious? Would that be the easiest way or is there a better way?
Thanks. Sean
I figured it out. Output to CSV, then copy the links column, then paste into linklicious. Easy, peasy, lemon-squeezy. This is quite the tool…. and it’s free, excellent. (for the time being)
I just loaded 800 links into linklicious from AMR. Super easy, I just hope it works out.
-Sean
Hi Daniel:
I too had a talk with Justin yesterday. Imagine actually being able to talk to one of our service providers. I loaded some AMR articles in the feed a day or so ago and its managed to index an additional 30 or so out of 300 so far. When I loaded the url’s in scrapebox two days ago I had 3 out of 300. Now this morning there are 35 in each Yahoo and Google. I pasted a few of the URLS in Google and they showed as indexed not just crawled. Promising. Easy. So far I like it.
Jay
I’m glad you did a post on this Daniel. I’ve been using it for about a month or so now and have been impressed with it’s ability to handle a large amount of links.
The only question that I have, which was brought up in the DFB forum by Josh I think, is…is this sort of service creating a huge footprint for Google to find?
On a side note, I’m getting ready to cancel my DFB subscription, had it for 3 months now, and am seeing very little impact (if any) on my SERPs. I’ve used it on tier 2 as well as direct linking to my money site. Very anemic links.
Matt, I had same thoughts on both counts
#1- footprints, since LL’s feeds are temporarily hosted for crawling purposes, I don’t think footprinting is gonna be a major issue
#2- DFB anemic links, yes I am about to cancel all 3 of my accounts but figured I’d try to get the LinkLicous API and DFB tandem work some magic, and I migh tuse this as a case study to prove/disporve that time spent indexing crappy backlinks is worth it, will explain that one later. I use DFB solely for direct linking since links are anemic, no need to spread what little juice they possess to other tiers, in my opinion
Matt and Dan
#1 – It won’t make a major footprint, this is true hopefully the service can continue the success long term.
# 2 – I have been doing LinkLivious for DFB and the API login option it is working okay, though I need to give it a little time to know for sure.
Here is a new one for you all
# 3 – BLG just came out with 2,000 profile links a day, their Link Wheel profile links are all PR 4+ and from talking with some, it seems they have a little bit more longevity than DFB, so you may want to consider doing it with BLG. BLG also has come out with 4 day project that includes the 2,000 profile links.
A) I would like to hear everyone’s opinion on BLG’s Profile Link Wheel.
B) Has anyone done the 3 day project on BLG? What results did you see?
C) Has anyone started a 4 day project on BLG? What results did you see?
Sincerely
DD
Hi, can you tell me what BLG is ?
BackLinksGenie: http://backlinksgenie.com/
Hey thanks for the review Dan. And I appreciate you letting me pick your brain yesterday…
To answer a few comments here:
- We took a random DFB sample of 50,000 links and saw 1.6% (827) indexing. We then ran another batch of 50,000 links through Linklicious and saw 2.8% (1420)%. So even though indexing went up 57%, it’s still really crappy.
- Our difference lies in Google actually finding the cheap links. Most profiles never get found so they are wasted. Through pinging and tracking we keep going until Google crawls it.
- I’ve got a couple of examples of sites ranking for long tail with just unindexed profiles. Being in the index isn’t necessary for ranking.
- I don’t know the answer yet as to the value of an unindexed link compared to an indexed one. I haven’t run those test cases and probably won’t for a while due to other things going on.
After talking with Dan and some others, we are going to roll out another feature when we exit beta – personal URLs and unexpiring links. Like bitly and the others, we plan on reusing the shortlinks after 30 days or so. Most won’t care because their links are already found – but some people build links to their feeds and don’t want them to go away. With this change you can give us your own domain name and we’ll use it to power the service – and never expire the links.
There are some other partnerships and technologies in the plan, but those are at least a few weeks out so I don’t want to get ahead of myself.
Dear Justin
What other services have you contacted about having them do API like DFB and MLC?
I asked early if you contacted a few different companies, with the names of those you should talk too. I am curious if you plan on talking to more companies so we can add our API to them.
Sincerely
DD
I’ve contacted another couple of companies that I felt were a good fit like DFB and MLC were. One told me that they didn’t have it in their plans at all and another didn’t reply. I’m up for integrating with anyone where it makes sense – we built the framework in an open and extensible fashion so it’s fast to do on our side. We’ll also likely release an open API so other companies can push links in instead of us pulling links in. That’d be a couple or three weeks away at the earliest because of the other things on our plate.
My suggestion would be to send emails in to your link providers if you want to integrate. It isn’t a hard process for either side.
@Daniel McGonagle:
You plan to cancel your DFB accounts? Isn’t it showing enough results?
So far I’m very happy. I can rank some of my sites for a lot of keywords easily.
But because you are a PRO and I respect your opinion, I really would like to know your reason.
I’m in the great position to have enough budget from my PPC campaigns to spent on SEO. So I’m looking for the best 100% Hands Off Tools. Already use LinxBoss, DFB, Backlink Booster, Article Marketing Robot (outsourced), SEO Link Robot (outsourced), SENuke Service (outsourced)
The best would be to outsource all this stuff to a company who uses all the tools. Tests everything and always knows what works
Just dreaming…
@ Dan above, who are you outsourcing AMR to?
@Ash
One of my VA’s is running the tool. I recorded some training videos how to use it and purchased an additional license. That’s all.
On the indexing the Rumer Links. I was reading this post on another site and some guy got a 300k Rumer blast to one of his sites.
When Rumer left the link it did leave the link with Anchor. However it also left the raw http://whateversiteitwas.com
And he did a search and Google still saw the posts, or the profile page, because google was showing 100,000′s of times it found the raw http link, so it does see the links.
I think google just does’nt really care for the pages, and i mean why would they? There is really nothing there anyway. So google does seem to see the links, even though it might not “index” the url
A simple test, do a large Rumer blast with a unique anchor text hitting some page. Then wait a while and search in google to see if it find the unique string.
Also worth a mention: The links were all pinged to about i think it was a dozen or so of the popular ping sites..
Hope this helps here.. Scott.
Dear Scott
When you say Google doesn’t care, I would agree they have no emotional attachment to it, this is very true.
I how ever do think that they still give some recognition and weight to profile links. The level, might be low, but it still gives them some weight.
The one thing profile links can do, is help a site get or stay indexed. Also, part of the algorithm is having links on different sites, if you get thousands or even tens of thousands of profile links that stick, you are now on that many more sites.
Also, it is a good marketing tool to get and keep your sites name out there.
BLG’s profile links tend to be better (they tend to stick to the higher page rank sites) than DFB, probably time for some tests to see which works better. If you didn’t get DFB before the prices went up, then definitely go with BLG for that. Overall, BLG is going to have tons of options in the future, so I would suggest them. That and their 3 and 4 day plans help to get their stuff indexed and generates link juice to each of the web2.0 links you create.
Sincerely
DD
Hello, yes i do think that profile links work. Doing any research on different sites you can see there backlinks have this in there portfolio.
On the “Index” thing, i should of said when people look for there backlinks, and see only a few Using yahoo. If you have a Unique name or something and do a search, you will see many of those links.
I think google can see a ton of these links, that is why you always hear of sites getting pulled back in google, google is looking at the url and the keywords your anchor-ing. When you hit it with a ton of Rumer links.
I do like the Tier idea of the BLG, many people doing seo services these days use the Tier linking. Can be Expensive for many however, if your hitting a lot of keywords this way.
It’s really about a lot of trash links, then a mix of better links.
You know the Unique content with keyword in anchor in text, on auth. site.
Then of Course the High PR Front page site, always easy to get by the thousands…
Hey Scott, the main issue with BLG and any other automated program is that the links will mostly be low quality.
BLG comment links don’t bring traffic, just links, same for the web 2.0s created, and the Profiles links, too.
So like you wrote, mix trash with good links perhaps via guest blogging or article exchanges
We’ve been using LinkJuicer for years and this will be a great addition to improve the effectiveness of that tool.
Interesting to hear the comments about DFB because we made a switch with our DFB strategy to move from tiered linking to doing some direct linking. The results have improved, but we’re obvious cautious.
Doesn’t it seem like we spend nearly all of our time researching services, setting up accounts, only to have to cancel and start over with a new service?
Hey Dan, stop researching and hang out here instead!
Dan: I’ve switched to direct link on a 7 year old site to test blast bank (similar to DFB). I’m giving it a week or so to see any changes in rankings.
Just went and checked out Link Juicer. First time I’ve heard of it.
How has it worked for you?
Ja
IMO Link Juicer is a safe bet especially when you have to give clients a list of links that were built. It’s generally pretty safe. However, the indexing rate is abysmal so you really must use some other service to get these links indexed whether it be Backlink Booster, Link Juice Maximizer, or a combination. We’ve found BLG to be a good alternative to LJ, but we’ve yet to see how it can scale if you are managing a large number of clients/projects.
Dan, you scale BLG by getting additional account at discounted rate
Link Juicer is on my do not use list. BlastBank seems ok, time will tell there, but they need to add some DFB like features to help with indexing and they’re too busy to do an API with LinkLicious right now, so hopefully they pull everything together soon
Dan:
Yes, they do want to know where there links are don’t they! Seems like I’m shifting my SEO budget around a lot between different services. I use backlink energizer with good success. (Steve Aylor’s version).
Jay
Hi.
Would be great to get some more informations about Quality / High PR links.
We have a lot of resources / link services here for volume / low quality links.
But I struggle a lot with getting / buying high quality links.
So it would be really awesome if dan could recommend some services for high quality links.
Thanks in advance
Dan
I’ve not done exhaustive testing with high PR links, but I can share an example that is indicative of what I’ve seen.
I need to rank an easy local SEO term. I blast 1000 profiles, set up a UAW article (~750 links), post a handful of blog comments (100 or so), and buy 11 PR3-5 home page links. I get to #5 in around 9 or 10 days. I decide to turn off the paid links and my rank doesn’t move down one spot.
I’m not saying they are worthless, but I’ve not seen a huge jump when using a handful. I’ll do more testing at some point to see what the limits are…
Why would you use High Pr Front page links on an easy local term?
In this particular case I took 5 approaches on 5 different pages on their site. I think it was 4 of the 5 ended up ranking on the front page. But the account was big enough (100K+/month) that I didn’t want to risk not hitting it. That’s worth $50/month.
I’ve been looking at some things like HomePageBacklinks form terry Kyle and am testing it now. But that’s one type of high PR link service. Justin’s comment reply above is pretty revealing, but what I’d like to know from you Dan (the man) is what exactly do you mean by high quality or high PR links?
I just want to be sure that when I go off in search of new things to test that it’s not a Quixotic pursuit, ie, chasing or fighting windmills
Dan, Daniel and Justin:
Justin, Your post got me thinking. I have a ecommerce site that I purchased a PR6 link from from a same niche theme. I paid $200.00 a month for over a year for “advertising” on their site . My traffic did go up with the link to justify the $200, but along the way I wondered if I dropped it what would happen. Then one day I got a email from the webmaster telling me they sold the site and were dropping my link. “Wondering problem” solved. Guess what? I didn’t drop any in rankings. Might be worth it to
“cycle” that process again. This time I’ll drop the paid “advertising” links more quickly.
OK, maybe we should have another blo gpost here to discuss this, but I can tlel you one thing…
I’ve been hammering a site heavily for a month or so, and got it to slwoly rise up page 2, then finally to page 1 at bottom, at #8, within 2 days of ordering Terry’s home page high PR links things, I was #2 page 1, but also had a continued horde of links coming in from BLG, web 2.s profile slinks etc….
Point being, like Justin mentioned, those PR links can help draw attention to a site and offset the low quality high volume links perhaps, so if you cna RENT those high PR links might be good for starter links to move a site quicker, then the supporting links provide the staying power so to speak.
As I think you mentioned, when the PR links are removed, seems like nothing bad happens so while these might be anecdotal incidents of proof, it seems like there’s a general theory being built here, if you know what I mean..?
Maybe PR links are good for starter links, so get those, build up volume links drop the PR links see what happens, then rotate the PR links over to something else that need quick boosting and attention….
I hate to throw ideas and unsubstantiated theories out there, but it’s worth testing and doing case studies on, and easy thing to test, really, seeing as how you don’t really want to RENT links but if you can use these links as quick start booster links, might be worth adding to the toolset
Let me also add that I’ve ranked a local term using just $50 (10-12 PR3-5 links) in paid links in 10 days. I reaaalllly wanted to make sure I got this guy ranked fast so I hit 5 different pages on his site with 5 different approaches.
I can’t recall ever ranking anything with 10 forum profiles or blog comments.
Sometimes I think Google has some sort of memory about a site content and the incoming links. That’d explain why dropping these links doesn’t have an instant impact and why temporary keyword stuffing can force a dance up sometimes.
Hi.
With high quality links I mean real links. Everything we create are “fake” links. Almost.. From Web2.0 sites. Articles and other unnatural stuff.
Let’s assume Google or other search engines could track, visitor volumes and user behavior (bounce rates) of sites. So they would know what is a real site and what is a “fake” site. I don’t know how much that really counts at the moment. But…who knows what happens soon. At least they are getting more and more data with Chrome.
So I (and others probably) would like to know how we could create real links? What are the best services / methods to create links on sites with traffic, PR and real users? Like Ezine Articles for example. But google probably knows that anyone can submit there, so don’t know how valuable those are anymore.
A link exchange service between real sites? Guest writing on active blogs?
To summarize:
What’s the best way to get links from sites with:
1. Traffic
2. Real users
3. Interesting content so that users stay a while on the site. (low bounce rate)
4. High PR?
I’m not saying that those links are working better, but just from logical thinking, I (as a search engine) would rate links from sites with real traffic a lot higher. And I think google get’s smarter in scanning social media networks like twitter / facebook and scan for discussions around sites. And if people talk about cnn.com, there must be something useful on that site?
Just thinking loud…
Thanks for a great platform here!
Dan
What’s the best way to get links from sites with:
1. Traffic
2. Real users
3. Interesting content so that users stay a while on the site. (low bounce rate)
4. High PR?
Guest blogging, plain and simple. Links bring traffic, real visitors, targeted traffic, usually on high PR sites, send some links to your guest blog post and the PR of the site will pass down PR to your post, something you could do easily to accomplish this is… use LinxBoss’ L4L to send link juice to the guest blog posts on decent PR sites, so eventually not only do those posts ranks for whatever keyword you put in the titles of the posts, long tail or medium tail, but they’ll also get a PR pass down form the PR of main url of site.
Click here and look for some of my guest blog posts, some of them attained PR on their own without me building links to them and they bring some steady traffic… you could also use some software that helps you find optimal link targets, ie, relevant sites that will do article exchanges or something like that, which is basically a long term manual process but quality link building that sticks
What is a High Quality Link? Remember Googler isnt an omni present like GOD is.
What the real pros are doing now, people that sell services seo services and have to deliver or they get hammered with negative reviews and comments.
Is this: Build Links that have links to them.
It does’nt matter really that much that i have noticed after months of looking at these providers that have to get results or there sales fail.
Tier one: Best would be Unique content on some blog with some pr (Pr so it gets crawled by goobler and is indexed).
Then hitting the content (with of course your anchor text) with a title wave of trash links, think Rumer and SB. With anchors could’nt hurt.
Also the pros use Ezine so its a good place for a link, and then backlink that backlink.
Its about backlinks that have backlinks.
Real sites that have traffic, i bet they have a backlink Portfolio with so much trash its a joke, if its a high volume word.
Real sites with users, and traffic the 2.0 sites lots of that, really should think of: Do my links have any links pointing to them.
Of course the higher pr that site has the better, and if its on your topic the better of course.
Bounce rate: might try a video, people like video.. daniel might be able to tell you that.. im sure that would help..
When you say sites with high pr thats easy, its the pages that have high pr with your anchor text is the challenge. As almost always, it comes down to money for a High front page pr anchor text link.
Also, remember googler is’nt as smart as everyone thinks, Also on the social media stuff, of course this is a part of a link Portfolio.
Who can rank for a really great term with just Rumer alone links?
Anyone? Its about a mix of links that googler seems to enjoy really.
This site, some were talking about in seo cirlces is, if i can remember right:
cheapglassesDotCom in goobler it Ranks #3 for Cheap Glasses
not sure other words, but look at the backlinks, just do a yahoo look.. look at the china spam.. and look at some of the Boomers
the home page links, last time i looked it had PR 8 !! links on the home page of some site, maybe a news site.
Full of trash links i think it was and some real boomer PR home page links, to sell maybe coner-fit goods (Not 100% sure on that)
But china spammers are hitting all sorts of Products with these type sites, same type backlink Portfolio.
To really have any chance sometime at high volume keywords, you need to juice your links like crazy, from good Tier one targets.
Daniel, is there a link for Terry’s link service?
Jay
Jay, I’ll post the url when I have an opinion on the service, if you don’t mind, no need to give out the url have people join then blaming me for the results one way or another.
Wait for a review please, thanks
Is anyone getting their links indexed using the linklicious service? They have a basic ($14.50 per month) and premium ($54.50 per month) service available now and I wanted to know if anyone has had success with this service before spending my money on it.
I’d also like to know if anyone is seeing worthy results.
Also, what would be a better choice here if dealing with many sites/clients.
Tom’s Backlinkbooster or Linklicious?
My opinion is it really depends on the type and quantity of links you are dealing with. BLB/BIE/BE are great tools for getting your links indexed, can be slow/pricey. Linklicious is cheap and works with high volume/low quality links really well because they don’t get crawled.
Was considering upgrading to Pro version of Linklicious, but was surprised to see the payment page wasn’t secure. Am I missing something here?
Hey Justin, my links are not getting indexed by using only linklicious. What other things do I need to do? Bookmarking?
It’s difficult to ever get low value links indexed. Linklicious will help a bit with indexing, but the goal is mainly to guarantee crawling. Weak links don’t even get crawled, let alone indexed. But you can still get some credit for unindexed links.
Hi Daniel,
Actually Unique Article Wizard gives you a full list of URL generated. You can make the list format as text which is ready to pull into those index tools. Just click the “date submitted” for each article and you will get the full link list.
Thank you.
Henry
I am a long time user of UAW but will be stopping my subscription at the end of this month and using Article Marketing Robot and Article Ranks Instead. Just checked out the comment by henry and they do give a list of links, but only of the directories submitted to with the following disclaimer:
The links below show some of the sites that we have submitted your article to and where possible link directly to the article.
(Note: This does not mean they have accepted your article – that will normally take them a day or three to decide. If you cannot find your article on a link shown below then it means either that they have not yet reviewed the article, or they have declined it. Also, particularly for email/blogspot submissions, the URL shown below is the one provided to us which, in a few cases, may not be the same as the one the article actually ends up on.)
Regards,
Colin.
Is what Justin saying here true or not? Most people tell me unindexed links are worthless. Justin says otherwise. What is the verdict for the rest of you? I haven’t done any independent testing of my own. So, I cannot refute anything Justin says.
Is Indexing Required to Rank in Google?
In the search engine optimization world, the latest fad is getting in the Google index. Right now most SEOs think a link doesn’t count unless it’s in the index, right? Wrong!
Generally SEOs read something that sounds good and they immediately hop on the bandwagon. A couple of years ago you wanted to be in the Google cache for your link to count but most recently it changed to being “indexed”. But like we found when making Linklicious and RSS feeds, don’t believe the hype.
To give an example of ranking with zero indexed links, let me share with you one of our throwaway made-for-adsense (MFA) sites. We threw this site up six months or so ago to test out some ranking theories and promptly forgot about it. After getting so many questions about indexing and replying so many times, I decided to drag it up as an example I don’t mind sharing.
Site: www.deletedcom
Indexed links: Zero
Ranking terms:
air course #1
course air #1
flight course #1
articles on flight school #5
articles on flight training #7
best flight course #7
accelerated flight course #9
accelerated pilot license #9
best flight training #10
the best way to learn to fly #11
accelerated flight courses #12
accelerated flying course #12
accelerated pilot license #14
accelerated pilots license training #15
accelerated flying courses #16
So what’s the takeaway? You can rank easily with a large volume of weak links, just like a dripping faucet can fill a bathtub. That’s what makes Linklicious.me so powerful – it takes that flood of low quality links and makes sure they are found and counted.
This begs the question though. Would I rather have an indexed link or an unindexed link. The answer is indexed of course, simply because Google considers it more valuable. But I think so little of indexing that I never even check to see my indexing stats. Instead of building 10 or 50 links to get a page indexed, just throw those links at your money site where they can make a direct and obvious benefit without link juice dilution.
So head out there and start testing these “facts” you hear about. Don’t take what I or anyone else spouts as the truth. (And of course share some secrets with us when you find them!)
Hah… I was debating about whether or not to share this out there there at large, but I guess the cats out.
This email also added a screenshot of zero backlinks using the link: operator. I stand by the results but would love a good debate.
Justin, I edited out all urls mentioned in the copied and pasted email that was posted here so you wouldn’t get another (3d backlink) credited to the site mentioned.
But yea wow! , air course…
REALLLLLLL tough keyword there bud, sooooo many EMDs and optimized sites going after that KW hard as can be seen on page 1 when air course is typed in.
Good thing you have a “reverse EMD” there huh?
I think the other keywords mentioned might prove your points better, but like you said, you’d rather have an indexed link than a non-indexed link and spidering frequently leads to indexed links so no real argument as to the benefits of getting links to links spidered, not from me.
I use LinkLicious as PART of the automation I use to get backlinks indexed though, as that’s my real goal for links to links.
Justin, one thing I think you should mention in your arguments is more about link velocity, and how link velocity has as much to do with the # of inbound links over time, and # of links daily, weekly, monthly over cours eof history of the site(s)….as it does with velocity of inbound traffic( real traffic, spider traffic, or other….)
Increased spider activity can spoof assumed velocity, if that makes any sense ?
Yeah – like I said in the email, it was a throwaway for testing. At one point I was on page 1 for all of those terms and more, but I learned what I wanted and moved on.
My point with the email is sooooo many people are parroting ‘it has to be indexed to count’ when it just isn’t true.
Regarding link velocity, I haven’t done enough testing yet to make any conclusions/assumptions. I can tell you that site strength plays a huge factor for our SEO clients – I absolutely killed a PR 4 site with links, it disappeared for two weeks and then 9 of my 10 terms were on page 1. I did the same to a 6 month old site with no inbound links and it disappeared for 3 months, only to show up on pages 2 and 3.
I like the way you think with regards to faking activity via pings. That’s the drip feed way and I’m a big proponent of that too.
We know that Google doesn’t show 100% of the links that you get, that doesn’t mean their not indexed or found by Google, it just means that Google is trying not to show people how its algorithm works. Having said that, we also see a correlation of websites whose links are being shown as indexed and their ranking for their keywords. I think getting your links indexed is important!
What do you know, you’re only on page 1 for the term Article Marketing, with less than 1k accredited links?
Good work there, but seriously though, yes, it’s important to have indexed links but I’m afraid there’s been a debate brewing out there on forums about indexed links, cached links and spider activity which frequently leads to one or the other.
SEO is not that hard, but debates like this may get people lost in the somewhat meaningless minutiae found in debates like this, know what I mean?
Your right, what do I know.
Thanks for the compliment
We know that websites/pages that his optimized properly on page, and then gets enough quality links linking back to the site will rank for that keyword. So it makes sense that you want your high end quality links to also have links pointing at them, not in a “link wheel” type of way, but rather in the same way the money page is getting links to it! If you think about it that way, then you will have no problem using software/programs/sites that help build links to your links. And when you do that, you get more of your links “indexed”. Its just common sense.
And it is a wasted debate, because it means your not as focused on building those links to your site. Let the experts like our good friend Daniel test things out. In Daniel and linkvanareviews.com we trust!
But again, what do I know?
Hey guys. So, what is the verdict. Is what Justin is saying about unindexed links having value true or not. Apparently, he has done some research and he gave an example. He seems like a straight up, knowledgeable guy.
Has anyone else performed a test similar to Justin’s. Is it better just to put my links into Linklicious.me and then create more links. Or do all the indexing work?
My links to higher PR domains ( above 2) seem to get indexed on their own anyway. It’s mostly the weaker ones that need the work.
I create higher PR profile links with Nuclear Link Blaster.
Feed the links into LinkLicious.me
Check indexing with ScrapeBox. According to scrapebox bing and yahoo index the bulk of these links. Bing seems to index everything. However, Google indexes very few.
Question 1: Are my Scrapebox indexing results valid?
Question 2: Are these higher PR profile links of value? Or is it a waste of time and better just to get the large volume of crappy links create by DFB?
PS- I like to post here on Dan’s site because for some reason, most of the people using this site are quite knowledgeable. Some other forums get responses that are not really intelligible. Dan even chimes in occasionally.
The high PR sites that allow profiles links tend to get your links noticed without much additional effort, whereas the crappy DFB ones require some additional effort, but they’re weak links and once indexed, may not remain so…. which means even further effort to create links to links to keep them indexed.
That’s a rule of thumb basically….
Profile links do work, and the links are easily obtained, therefore not something I want to prop my site up with since it means your competition can order the same services and links then outrank you by doing just a little more than you did, which would be readily apparent/evident if they did a link analysis of your site.
Reply to self:
Self, here’s an interview UAW folks did with Market Samurai folks, and in this interview there’s some information pertaining to the crawling/indexed/non-indexed/where’s the value really…..argument/discussion
Hey, Dan, thanks for the above link. Looks like Eugene from Market Samarai agrees with Justin.
From Eugene = Market Samarai
Yes, I agree. There is much evidence that even though all links may not be ‘indexed’, the fact that those links exist have a positive impact on a site’s ranking and SEO.
So, Justin’s claims are corroborated here. I would tend to believe Justin anyway.
Also, I guess I’m little behind the curve but it is interesting to know the .gov and .edu links no longer carry any special value. In the article they say this was done by Google to reduce spamming and requests for backlinks to these sites.
Good and useful article.
Good read again Dan,
So I’ve been using BLG and DFB both are nice products, I am not sure about BLG’s one task a day approach as it means I have to be super organised with my campaigns. My question to you guy’s is where do I submit my best content? Should I send to WEB 2.0′s or use it on my Blog?
Also where can I get good quality spin ready articles? Should I send one article to all AMR sources or is there a way to send a uniquely spun version to each directory for uniqueness.
PS. Probably the wrong place to post these points but I fancied ramble.
PPS. I’m not and IM just a techie ranking corporate websites for
customers one of which is a Web Hosting business and is very very competitive