I got notified by a reader of this blog asking for a Linx Boss review, and after some some careful consideration, I’ve decided to move forward with doing a review.
Linx Boss First impression: another one of those automated link building services that never really pan out.
Then I read the sales letter,which emphasizes what a lot of people buying into link building services need to know:
- Backlinks don’t mean squat if your on-page SEO is terrible
- Backlinks that lead to higher rankings don’t always mean you did your keyword research properly
- Higher rankings doesn’t always mean your sites make more money, conversions are your responsibility
Then I watched their video, which basically tells you everything their service does and not to expect miracles, even though this is a 100% automated link building solution
Then I spoke to the co-owner Tommy for close to an hour on the telephone
Tommy’s a link building SEO “geek” like me. He’s into it and loves the constant learning and tweaking needed to stay on top of the ever-present changes in SEO. After our talk I was impressed with what I learned from the phone conversation, and there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than you think, or could glean form their sales letter.
How does Linx Boss work and what do you get? (Pro SEOs listen up here!!)
What you do:
- You enter in your list of domains
- Enter in your anchor text variances (ex. 3 main kws for a main domain url)
- Wait, watch and use their tracking software to see your results improving
- No writing whatsoever, no spinning, no articles to syndicate nothing
What you get:
- 1000 one way DoFollow backlinks a month
- Maximum 5 urls a month get these links (for best results and best practice)
- You can change urls getting the links later on (after, of course, you see desired results with previous urls being worked on)
- Tracking software that takes BEFORE snapshots (SERPs rankings for those URLS at beginning of campaigns) then updated results periodically
Things to consider before getting Linx Boss:
You (only) get to use this service to get backlinks to 5 domains, and you “only” get 1000 backlinks a month.
The 1k backlinks are divided up by getting 200 backlinks to 5 different domain urls, preferably on 5 different domains. The reason for this stipulation is that the link velocity wants to appear as natural as possible and these backlinks WILL get seen and be credited as active backlinks.
So, if you domain name url is 1 year old and has 1200 backlinks to it, that’s 100 backlinks a month on average. Increasing this link velocity to double it’s pace is as aggressive as you want to get if your link numbers were something like that.
Point being, LinxBoss is curtailing how many links you can get per domain for your sake, in the interest of helping you maintain a somewhat natural inbound link velocity.
Linx Boss compared to Backlink Solutions
- Linx Boss works much like Backlink Solutions does, but has a much wider reach due to having a much larger network of sites, which translates into generating a lot more linking power to your sites.
- Linx Boss is dedicated to getting hordes of links to a minimal amount of urls, whereas BLS allows you to build links to inner pages and posts.
- BLS requires that you spend time writing snippets and spinning them, Linxboss requires no writing whatsoever
- Both services have networks of decent Page Rank-ed sites with good/decent inbound link profiles
- Linx Boss is $127.00/month, BLS is $97.00/month (when it’s open to new members)
BOTH services promote the promoters
What makes Backlink Solutions so powerful is it does it’s self-named Gen-X linking, which builds links to your sites and to the sites linking to you every time posts are made. LinxBoss does this, too
NOTE: Linx Boss has a new feature coming out soon that will address it’s one main drawback of only being useful for getting links to max of 5 urls/month
Linx Boss test results:
Site 1 – Main domain got links for its 3 main keywords
Position before using LinxBoss
KW/URL #1>> Page 1, #9 (very competitive term)
5 days later, #3 !!
KW/URL #2 >> Page 1, #5 (competitive)
5 days later, #5
KW/URL #3 >> Page 1 # 7 (competitive)
5 days later, #3 !!
Site 2
Position before using LinxBoss
KW/URL #1 >> Page 1, # 9
5 days later,, #9
KW/URL #2 >> Page 2, #11 overall
5 days late, #11
KW/URL #3 >>Page 2, #11 overall
5 days later, #19
Site 3
KW1/URL #1 Page 3
5 days later, Page 1, #8
KW/URL #2 Page 2
5 days later, Page 2
KW/URL #3, Page 4
Has a TAG Page 1, #4
Site 4
The list goes on and on and it’s really too much work for me to depict every url i’ve ever tested and with what service was used to boost that url in the rankings.
Linx Boss is recommended, plain and simple
NOTE: As you can see we’re not finished testing yet, and improvements are slow to appear, but Tommy said they’re gonna close this down for good or at least for a very long time very soon, and they do NOT offer refunds.
Test drive it here and see what happens, that’s the best advice I can give right now, and you can also read the comments/reviews in the comments below, too
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Thanks for the review Dan!
I went to the site and under TOS got their company name. Google them and found several sites they use for link building. Used copyscape to check them out, found all of their contents are duplicate contents copied from article directories. Do this and you’ll know how they do link building – a small blog post and anchor link at the end.
That’s correct, good detective work there Jason…
And nothing wrong with duplicate content as long as it gets indexed and provides a real, credited backlink
I’ve been with them for the past couple of weeks. Although I did find out they use duplicate content (I think they just attach random article directory feeds to old/aged domains they have purchased). I wasn’t too happy, but then I saw a few of the sites I added gaining decent rank and the backlinks getting indexed fairly quickly. So far so good I guess.
Adam, very astute observations there, and correct as well
End results and time it takes to get those results is what matters….
ROI needs to be an important factor when using any link building service.
If/when LinxBoss saves me from doing any writing, like…say….4 hours of writing, then it saved me time and allows me to allocate more time to other stuff.
If you look at it form a time-saving point of view, LinxBoss will save you at LEAST 4 hours of writing which equates to about 30/hour.
But it really saves you more like 12-20 hours of writing a month or paying writers
Sound like a good option. So do you recommend it over BLS? I could only afford one.
.-= Robert´s last blog ..Lesson 3: Keyword Research =-.
Hi Robert, it’s NOT recommended over BLS at this time since it’s still in early testing phases. The only reason I published the review is they’re probably going to close this service out within the next month
Thanks a lot Daniel for the test that you have run so far. What is the period in which a new linkbuilding campaign yields steady state results. Up to so far (14 April) the test have been running for about 5 days, from your experience would these results even mean anything. More especially if they content used is not entirely unique, in short DO those links STICK?
Hey Jose, good question.
Here’s how I see it.
If a URL hasn’t gotten links for a long time, it will take a bit of time to “wake it up” and get it moving up in the SERPs and will of course do some Google up-and-down dancing at first, then slowly start to move up as long as links are coming in steadily.
For long-tail terms and terms with very little competition, you could see very quick results
Medium competition terms will take a while to uproot and move up
Difficult terms will Google Dance their way to the top with consistent quality links
I went and got myself a subscription to try this out.
You get to use it on 5 domains, I really only need 2 right now so if you’d like to buy a slot off me for about $40 a month through paypal send me an email through sloth @ slothftw dot com
Hi, the results thus far aren’t earth-shattering, but definitely helps keep some inbound link activity going for the main sites urls so i can focus on other things.
If you stick around long enough for L4L, I think you’ll be pleased.
Just remember, NO writing required, which is always a plus and hidden cost for link builders
Hey Daniel,
How do you think LinxBoss would do for the following situations, based on the experience you’ve had with it so far:
1. Used in conjunction with link services like BLS or Linkvana to promote the TLD of a sniper site.
2. To provide long tail links to inner pages of a semi-aged (2 yrs old) authority site.
3. To provide varied anchor text and long tail results for inner pages of a freshly created (<6 months) and still growing authority site, adding linking targets as new pages are added.
All of these operating under the assumption that the on-site SEO is done properly.
Also, what's this L4L you mentioned in reply to anon? Extra feature that's being rolled out sometime soon? Any ETA?
As always, thanks for another great review!
Chris, thanks for the question and feedback…
LinxBoss is best used for main domain names with keywords matching, BLS and Linkvana would be good for inner pages. Linxboss is a link volume producer/service so IMO it’s best used for getting links to optimized keyword rich domains on autopilot while you use other methods and services to build links to inner pages.
L4L explanation coming soon. I don’t want to give anything away nor mis-speak so I am awaiting an approved answer from the LinxBoss folks.
Thanks,
Dan
Yeah, I’d like to know what you meant by ‘L4L’ too
I asked Linxboss co-owner Tommy to send me a pre-approved explanation of what L4L,Links 4 Links is and it is forthcoming, soon.
Basically, it gets links to all your on-site urls, better explanation coming soon
Also, Daniel, I keep getting your opup advertisement coming up on every single page I visit, I find it very irritating, can’t you make it so it only comes up once per visit. Seriously its been like this ever since I started coming to this site for about 7 months.
I changed the setting to display every 9999 minutes, hope this helps.
Looking for a better exit popup software for blogs, any suggestions?
Try ‘OptinPop’ and see how that fares.
Linx4Linx ETA 2 weeks from today
You already get 1000 links per month spread over 5 sites. But the best is yet to come…
With Linx4Linx we take care of your existing links and help you blow your competitors out of the water at the same time.
Best Part – this is a free add on
It’s made up of 3 components…
Recharge Your Links
The system goes out and tracks down all the backlinks you already have… and then charges them up by pointing links AT the pages they site on…Growing the PR
So even before you get any new links… the linking you already have is fired up with maximum ranking power.
Plus — it’s all fully tracked – we track the PR for the domain and the PR for the actual page so you can SEE a visible improvement in your L4L backlink power.
All you do is register the domains and BOOM! Linx 4 Linx rushes off to charge up your existing backlinks.
Reverse Engineer Your Competition
LinxBoss goes out and pulls in all the backlinks from the number 1 site in Google for your chosen keyword
This exposes exactly what it took for them to get to the top spot for the keywords you’re targeting. What then? Simple…
You go out and make posts, comments whatever… on the same sites and get the same links.
Then add those new page urls in L4L and make that single post 100X more powerful and certainly more powerful than the guy sitting in spot #1 in Google…leaves your competition choking on your dust.
Unlimited DIY Links We give you a list of THOUSANDS of sites, all broken down by categories. You pick out the sites relevant to your market… and then go ahead and make a post pointing to your own site. Even better… that new link you just created? Plug THAT into the L4L system and give it backlinks from LinxBoss as well!
Recap…
1) Every single existing backlinks are powered up…then power them up by growing the page PR so the links become PERMANENTLY more valuable
2) We give you all the backlinks of your competitors…then we power these new links up as well
3) We give you countless new backlinks on high PR sites and power those suckers up too…yep we power these new links up as well
… and this is all ON TOP OF the existing 1000 links a month you get from the core LinxBoss system!
You never need join another linking network, buy backlink packets or splash out on software again… it’s ALL here in LinxBoss.
Thanks for the quick response. That sounds pretty awesome. So if we had URLs from some other linking service, like Linkvana or BLS, we could plug those into the L4L system and get those juiced up too?
Doesn’t that theoretically give us unlimited links to pretty much any site that’s pointing towards one of our money sites registered within Linxboss? If so, that’s a hell of a value-added service.
One more question… Is it possible to add more sites to LinxBoss without getting a second account? Considering you’ve essentially said it’s better for sniper sites than authority sites, the 5 site limit kinda hurts since the sniper approach is more volume-based. If I can add sites on for an additional fee without having to purchase a second account, that’d probably settle it for me.
Hey Chris, no problem….
You don’t plug anything in. If I understand it correctly, it analyzes your inbound link profile, garners a list of sites linking to you (including or excluding LB’s links not sure) and they generate backlinks to your links for your entire site in addition to the 5 urls you’re getting the larger volume of backlinks for.
WISE users of SEO Link Pro, Xrumer, Link Farm Evolution, and Bookmarking Demon would use those tools (which I don’t like BTW) to get backlinks to their backlinks to add a little link juice to the links (to your links). LB’s L4L will do that for you, apparently.
Doesn’t that theoretically give us unlimited links to pretty much any site that’s pointing towards one of our money sites registered within Linxboss? If so, that’s a hell of a value-added service.
And the answer would be; Hell yeah! (but let’s be cautiously optimistic)
NOTE: I can’t, nor do I claim to be an expert at what L4L does since it’s not even released yet, just want everyone to know that.
Is it possible to add more sites to LinxBoss without getting a second account?
Yes, if you want to add more sites in to get those high volume (200/month) backlinks, you can do that for an extra fee, on a per site/url added basis.
Also, there are other things they’re doing that’ll blow your mind, especially for people doing Adsense, all part of what their services does, no price increases in near future, just a definite cap on memberships that will be set once they’re done pimping this thing up some more and reach their quota of sites and members they want to support.
Hope this answers your questions
Dan
Yep, that pretty much covers them Dan. It does generate one new question though… How much does it cost per new URL added?
Probably going to have to pull the trigger on this one pretty soon if he’s capping membership.
Went with Action Popup, some quirks to it but decent-performing plugin/software
“and this is all ON TOP OF the existing 100 links a month you get from the core LinxBoss system!”, is that a typo? I thought we got 200 links a month per domain.
Typo, 1000 links a month, spread out over 5 domains, 3 keywords or more for each
any news or updates about better rankings and overall productivity of LinxBoss?
I’ve been testing it for a couple months now. On brand new domains, it works well. I have 2 brand new domains that I only built backllinks w/ linxboss and one is #4 and one is #5 now. Competition for these keyphrases aren’t pushover either (2 word phrases on both of them). Granted I’m not going for “debt relief” or “home loans” , but they aren’t 4 word tight niches either. Took about a week to get indexed and another 6-7 weeks to get the rankings they have now.
On older domains it works well too. I have 2 aged domains, 1 and 2 years old respectively.
Domain 1 that wasn’t ranked in the first 100 results is now #6-#7 for it’s main keyphrase, within about 30 days of linxboss. Domain 2 that was previously #4-#5 for it’s keyword is #1 after about 30 days of linxboss.
No other link building was done outside of linxboss to any of these domains once they were added to the system. The 2 new domains have backlinks from linxboss exclusively.
On a negative note I have a few other domains that aren’t doing as well (page 10+), but are still hopping around as links are being built. I have 1 upgrade in place for linxboss that allows me 10 total domains, so that’s why I’m able to promote that many sites at a time. The remaining sites I have on the account were added too recently to come to any conclusions.
There you have it, YMMV =)
Thanks Adam, that’s great feedback
I think Adam’s results would be more representative of how LinxBoss works since he added new and old domains into the mix. For my test, I just added old domains
Adam, you are the man! Thank you
Daniel,
I read your page on recommended backlink services and would like to ask a question.
Is LinxBoss okay to use for third party clients? I’d like to rotate my guys on a one month in, one month off basis (unless the domain count is increased by LB)
Yup, it’s OK to do that, but probably not necessary seeing as how you can add more domains/urls to the list, instead of constantly adding/removing domains from the list
Just got an email that said they closed their doors for new members. Anyone with a membership get the email too?
Adam, their email stated
Lastly, in the coming days LinxBoss is going exclusive…
LinxBoss will no longer be taking on new members
Before anyone bombs us with email about why let me be the first
to tell you why so there’s no confusion.
Simply put, we have reached our membership goals…time to go
private.
You’re right, it does say in the coming days. I must have read too fast because I wanted to watch that L4L video =)
Hey Daniel,
This L4L sounds very interesting, any update info on this at all?
Kurt
.-= Kurt Henninger´s last blog ..How A Crazy Old Guy Built His Email List =-.
Hey Kurt, no word yet on the L4L release date, and I hate to keep asking Tommy this when he’s probably busy wrapping things up with it. Will let you know when I know, is best I can offer you.
Thanks,
Dan
Anyone else having issues logging into linxboss over the past couple of days? No go for me, been over 48 hours and can’t login.
Just an update on my URL’s with linxboss. I replaced a term that was not converting for me in the system with an older 2yr old domain that was #6 in Google for the past 3-4 months for its main term. After 2 weeks, that term is now #1. No other link building system was used on the site other than linxboss. A newer domain was also added into the system, and is now #9 – coming from a page 3 ranking. That took about 2 weeks also.
All-in-all, about an 80% success rate with linxboss with all the domains I have in the system. For not having to “write” anything, not too shabby.
I’m able to login fine, though did notice just now that it takes a little while to load, its blank for a while and eventually the loading bar appears. It looks like the interface has been updated. If you’re still having problems logging in you might want to check any adblocking software you might have on, the whole icontrol panel is in flash so I wouldn’t be too suprised if an ad blocker accidentally mistook it for a flash advert.
Yeah,
Linxboss is totally down it appears. Really a bummer, it’s been down for 2 days for me, can’t log into any of their pages.
I duon’t know what you guys are talking about, I’ve been able to login fine, no problems at all.
My main concern in using these service is that google could penetrate them and then might devalue my site. I wanted to use it for stickly white hat sites for my friends and I do not want them to get penalized by google
Hi Daniel, I think thats a fair comment, you want to try and avoid penalisation as much as possible, the best way would be to avoid any kind of ‘linkinking scheme’ and just get natural links. Having said that I would say that most of the time you can get away with building almost any kind of links and not get penalised. I’ve done SEO for a lot of websites and have never gotten ‘penalised’, I’ve built some really crap links before too, for example I’m not proud of it but I’ve spammed my link on over 10,000 forums in a single day, did I get penalised? NO, in fact I got a top 10 ranking within 2 weeks and this wasn’t an uncompetetive phrase. I’m not saying you should do the same, but what I am saying is that I think you can get away with a lot more than you think. I would suggest you experiment with lots of link building strategies on lots of seperate sites so you can get a better handle on what works and what doesn’t and don’t just stick to whitehat, because its often blackhat and greyhat where people can learn the most about SEO, you can test lots of strategies here and then when you go whitehat you know what you need to do to stay under the radar AND get your rankings.
I do not mind too much grey hat or black hat styles but not directly to my money sites. So, if the system is dangerous to use directly, I will need to put up some buffer sites to protect the money sites.
BTW. I asked the same question to the company and still did not receive any reply. I send them several times and nothing. I wonder if it is a bad sign
Thanks for the questions and thanks Anon for the reply….
I’ve been using this service for close to 2 months now and no penalties and other people who got this service reported back with good results, plus as Anon stated, unless you do something ridiculously aggressive/bad it’s pretty hard to get a site de-indexed or banned
Thanks Daniel. BTW. You have a great name
There is no way on gods green earth that you can get penalized for using this service. All it does is build links to your websites. Building links cannot penalize your website in any shape or form. I don’t know who came up with this theory, but I’ve literally spammed brand new sites with 10′s of thousands of low quality links in a very short period of time, without any ill effect (in fact the opposite). Think about the logic behind spamming sites with thousands of links in Google’s eyes (your competitors). Think about it again. It just doesn’t make sense. The worst effect it can have on your site is 0 effect. I’ve tested this over and over again and I cannot get my sites penalized, nor my competitors no matter matter how many links I do, no matter how low of quality they are, no matter how short of time I do them in.
So would getting a couple hundred links to your site, over the course of a month penalize your site? The answer is no. Linxboss is safe – so is any link building service.
I read on some forums that google will put you in the sandbox if you spam other sites. Further, owners of the other sites could complain and get your site banned for spanning. I also read about google bowling. So, is there any truth to any of these things. Because, if it is true then I am sure some people will get rid of their competition fairly quickly by using xrumer or what ever else spamming tool there is.
Hey Dan (*great name you must be handsome and smart, too
)
Google Bowling does exist and it does happen, but even the extremely well paid bowler-for-hire will admit that the effects aren’t long-lasting.
When done morally, it’s done for reputation management, ie. driving bad reviews about a company out of the SERPs.
When done immorally, it’s done merely to get rid of the 5 sites outranking you so you can be #1
How did you know I was handsome as well as smart. You must be psychic
Thanks the answer. It helps.
The ONL Y way you can *knock* any site out of competition by link spamming is if the site coincidentally does a bit of the “google dance.” This is deceiving as you may think you killed your comp, but this is completely normal when building links to a site suddenly – and is usually VERY short lasting – and usually backfires as the site will sometimes come back even stronger due to the links you just gave it. Your better off link spamming your own site.
Link bombing a competitors site / bowling used to be effective, but was several years ago and Google “fixed” it. Anyone that touts this tactic still works is stuck in the SEO dark ages and needs to be enlightened =)
Anyway – back on topic. Linxboss is good, use it =)
Thank you Adam. I am certainly convinced
@Adam
YES you can get penalized using a linking service.
I was using one that shall remain nameless.
Used it for 2 weeks. Got great results.
Then all my 600 TLD websites were banned from Google!
I lost a god awful amount of money because of it.
~ not to scare you, just to let you know it’s a possible and does happen with other services~
Hey Brad, since you’re posting this comment in the LinxBoss section, are you saying LinxBoss was responsible for getting 600 TLDs banned?
That’s quite a costly upgrade if so.
I seriously doubt any one service can cause 600 websites to get banned, more likely your 40 halloween mini sites got ranked quickly since they were EMDS, then you tried ot blast them to the top spots, then got temporarily “disappeared” form the SERPs?.
Please share what service you think caused this, maybe I can help you out
So, how do you know it was this linking service that got your sites banned? There are an infinite amount of reasons why your sites got banned.
I’ve been using Linxboss for 2 weeks now and here are my results so far:
-Semi competitive niche / 1 yo domain: +2 positions on avg
-Competitive niche / 1 yo domain: -2 positions on avg (+18 on less competitive term)
-Low competitive niche / 3 month old domain: No change
-Semi competitive niche / 1 yo domain: +5 positions on avg
-Competitive niche / 1 yo domain: No change
So overall can’t really comment as yet of the effectiveness, Looks like the L4L is helping other links get picked up better.
I know its early days, but I can’t seem to find any of the Linxboss links appearing in site explorer…So I’m guessing the domains used must not be crawled often or low juice. What do you guys think?
Daniel / Adam could you post an update on your rankings with Linxboss?
Also weren’t they suppoed to be closing it like last week?
It’s a low juice high volume type of service, which is why you won’t see too many people saying they got to #1 with it, but there’s plenty of people aside from myself who are seeing big jumps in serps/rankings with Linx Boss.
I added 5 new sites to the system today, and I’ll keep you updated on what happens to those as well.
L4L is ready, it seems, and I didn’t realize that until today so I’ll have to read up on it to see how it’s working. LinxBoss does take a while to see results, and you’ll see some rankings dancing for a few weeks then some solidly improved rankings after a month or so. I know it’s a long time to wait, and to pay for results but it’s hands-free so worth it if you have some abandoned sites you want to get going again.
You really need to use it longer than 2 weeks. You might get lucky, as I did, and see changes in that short of time – but usually not.
All (as in 100%), of the sites I have in the linxboss system are seeing positive changes. Whether it’s only a few spots, or several pages, or all the way to #1, I’m seeing good results. A few sites danced back and forth (they were new), but there is a definite gradual positive movement.
You should see the sites in site explorer within a week or so after linxboss posts them – give or take a few days. I wouldn’t worry about this much, you want this to look natural anyway for the most part. The sites in their network are quality for the most part (pr1-5), and Google will eventually see all of them.
I just ordered a 100 site addon package (holy $$!!), but I’m that confident in their system. It’s not cheap, but for 100% automation its cheaper for me in the long run.
I can’t comment on the L4L effectiveness yet, but sounds good in theory. We’ll see! =)
Hey Adam, thanks for the update on LinxBoss and Backlinks Ninja…
About LB I see pretty much the same thing with my 10 sites, google dancing then eventual increases… It’s actually kind of fun using it because I can pop in some microniche sites’ urls that need links and when they get somewhere on page one then I can start considering whether to add some other sites into the rotation.
About L4L, I suggest you, and everyone else who uses LinxBoss, to get at least a few links to every url on your sites in order to maximize what L4L is gonna do (in theory, we’ll see
)
This is off the subject a little bit, but I wanted to find a tool that can do video submission for me. I stumbled upon, this one: articlevideorobot.com
It is used to convert articles to videos and them distribute them. Primary used for link building, I assume. Does anyone know anything about this tool or could they recommend something else.
It’s a pretty cool tool, but videos don’t play well, they have that robotic voice.
However, it can do some submissions for you and you don’t need to record anything just give it a URL to read and make a recording from. If you get this, use it in conjunction with a wordpress plugin that makes video sitemaps and host at least one version of your AVR generated videos on your own site, on your own self-hosted sitemap then link to it.
trust me when I say that’s a huge tip:)
Off my my long weekend now
Dan
P.S. You can try it for free right off their site, and if you don’t like their submissions process, then try Tube Mogul or Content Buzz for vid submissions, in that order
Thank you Daniel for your help.
Someone introduced me to Backlinks Ninja. It charges $147 per month compared to LinxBoss $127. The similarities are amazing but when I asked Backlinks Ninja, I was told they are two different programs. I really cannot believe it. Even the demo video looks & sound alike. Anybody like to check it out?
I’m pretty sure it’s a private label version of Linx Boss, too much of it is exactly like Linx Boss, from the warnings, the demo, the pricing, the # of links you get per month etc….
I’ll let you know if I find out otherwise.
Thanks,
Dan
Here’s what I got from Erik:
“BacklinksNinja is a special licensing arrangement. We are providing much of the backend technology for them.”
Ah, so the backlinks ninja folks pretty much lied about this eh? Not good for them
I’ve been biding my time before posting my thoughts on this service, I used linxboss on a client’s site in combination with UAW on low competition keywords, that worked out well and I achieved the top 10 rankings they asked for. However, this was in combination with UAW so its not conclusive. I used Linxboss on another site that had about 3 years in age and a couple of hundred pligg links, lot of xrumer links and some article links, the best that this site ever got was position 4 about a year ago, but it lasted about 2 weeks, probably due to my impatient link building methods which were always too fast and can’t really sustain long term positions. I started using just linxboss on this on 23rd of April, it was in position 8 and was pretty much always ranking between 11 and 8, in about a 9 days I got lucky and had gotten to position 5, I was unsure whether this was due to linxboss because I had changed the content a little during this time, however I made no more changes to the content since then, my site stayed in position 5 for another 29 days and went up to 4 and then another 6 days later it is now in position 3, I am now somewhat convinced that this is linxboss’ doing because I have made no content changes and am aware of no other links built to the site. This is a good keyword for us which makes a few hundred pounds per week through adwords, I look forward to getting number 2 or 1 and perhaps dropping the cost of the adwords campaign. I would say these results are promising and very pleasing personally, but I don’t want to get ahead of myself and say this is going to work well for every site you put in it.
Perhaps I will come back and update you guys in another few months time, I’m in my 2nd month now and will probably pay for my 3rd.
From what I have seen good rankings comes not from a short term flood of backlinks but from consistant backlinks over time. Linxboss approach should long term give results I hope.
Do you know if http://www.linxboss.com will ever accept any new members?
Do you think backlinks ninja would be a good alternative to linx boss?
They might, but with private labels of LinxBoss about to become more plentiful, I doubt they’ll ever open their doors back up again to public, and can probably refill their membership rolls via waiting lists.
Daniel,
Are you saying that they are selling PL Rights of LinxBoss now? If yes, I’d like to get some more info on this for my own sake.
I wish I knew who the guys are that are running BackLinks Ninja so I could know whether to trust them or not.
I would much prefer to do business with the original owners for the sake of support and etc…but if they never ever open up again, then I’d give BN a try because I really want in.
So I guess the question is….should I wait and hope LinxBoss opens up soon again? (I’m on their waiting list)….or should I assume they are done, and go with Backlinks Ninja?
Thanks,
Ken
Hang tight for another week please, got a nice surprise in store for you, (I think!)
Awesome Daniel! – Will do!
I gotta tell ya…you’re doing a most excellent job here with your blog…your kind of transparency, real-life reviews, and solid advice is inspiring to me. You’ve got something really good going on here…so keep it up!
Ken
Jerry if you’re interested in renting a spare slot from me I can let you have one for $40 a month.
Send me an email sloth @ slothftw dot com
Anon If you still have that spare slot open, I want in on it for one of my sites, figa11 @ att dot net
Do you think backlinks ninja would be a good alternative to linx boss?
How is linx boss better than backlinks ninja?
They’re the same system no difference between the two except price
This program sounds great, the only thing that I’m worried about is the 5 website limit. How do you guys usually work around this? The greatest part I like about this tool is the automated linking, but how easy is it to rotate sites?
You can pay more to add more url to the rotation, or just swap sites in and out once they’ve achieved some solid rankings. Takes about 35 seconds to delete one site form rotation and add a different one in, just need to enter in url, and 3 anchor texts for that url, and hit save button
I have been using the system for one of my sites for almost a month. Before starting, I was on page two for one of my keywords, then I dropped to page 6 and now I am bouncing between page 4 and 5. The keyword is not very competitive, approx. 2million competition. Lets see what happens by the end of the month. I am purposely not doing anything else to the site, I want to see how the system works.
Daniel,
One more question regarding LinxBoss.
Do you know how they define a bad neighborhood…or poor content sites?
I don’t build crappy sites, but everyone defines that differently…and I’m just wondering what they deem as “poor content”.
My main concern is, do they accept review sites that review a single product only? (I use unique professionally written content, and WordPress).
Thanks,
Ken
Hi Ken, not sure how they define bad sites or content but from what you’re telling me here, doesn’t sound like it’s gonna be an issue for you, as long as your site is already indexed and is deemed a good site, you should be all set
I currently have a site in their system which is made with wordpress, has just 3 pages and reviews one product. I guess in that case you shouldn’t have a problem going on my experience.
Thanks Anon…that’s perfect…just what I needed to know.
just joined, thanks Dan!
Cool man, thank you
See you on Skype
I’m not ready to spend the money, so I’ll wait and read everyone else test result and if the results are positive. I hope that sometime in the future I’ll be able to get into Linx Boss.
Dan,
I’m still wary about the way linxboss build their links.
Elbert, I understand that, just imagine if you used Link Dozer to post to35,000 sites though but each piece of content wasn’t spun but unique in that there’s no other piece of content like that out there on the internet surrounding your anchor text and you will never get a link form the same site to that particular url. I saw the following comment on the warrior forum that might help explain the effectiveness of this service:
That’s not what I meant. I’m talking about the way linxboss is scraping content and then adding a link at the end of the content.
I agree with ken, thanks dan, I purchased BLS through your link. Keep up the good work…
Hi, I recently joined their membership (say 15 to 20 days ago) Though i ma not really seeing any links to my sites, its really making me wonder but i am going to wait a bit more and see if they do actually deliver the links promised i regularly use MS so i can track all the inbound links with ease!
Certainly no results in 5 days like you saw them!!
James, you should NEVER expect to see links being reported within 5 days, nor rely on backlink checkers to determine how many links you got. I did mention several times that results generally take about a month to be seen in rankings, and improved rankings is only thing that matters, not notoriously inaccurate backlink checkers.
Hope this helps
Hi Mike,
I was curious to know if Backlink Ninjas is LinxBoss, I am testing out Backlink Ninjas and I see the video’s are saying LinxBoss, wondering why they changed there name.
Did anything fishy happen and they had to re-market?
Corey
Allow me (Dan) to answer for “Mike”. Ninja is a private label version of LinxBoss.
Thought I’d give everyone another update. Linxboss is now responsible for a number 1 ranking for my main keyword on my main website.
Thanks Anon,
I’m a member too…and having fun testing this.
I’m curious….have you been able to do a backlink check and actually see your backlinks? (in something like Yahoo backlink checker)
I’ve been a member for one month now…and while overall my rankings have improved, I cannot SEE the backlinks. Which makes me wonder WHAT I’m paying for.
I actually love the service…I’m just a little concerned about not being able to actually find the backlinks…and was wondering what others were finding.
Ken
Really I’m not too concerned about seeing backlinks or not. I use Yahoo to find my backlinks but it never shows all of them, I’ve done so many different backlinking strategies and its always the same.
For the few that I do see, they’re all from blogs with scraped content and an anchor link at the bottom of each post.
Al I know is that I’ve been using linxboss exclusively on my sites for 3 months and its done a great job, I will definately be continuing.
Be absolutely sure you’re using the L4L feature on all sites, it made a big difference once I enabled it.
Thanks Anon.
I understand it’s about the RANKINGS, not the links that you can actually SEE. I get that…and that’s all cool, as long as the rankings continue to improve overall. So far, it’s all good for me.
The only problem is that when you want use this service for other clients, and you want to show them proof of your activity, then you can’t show them backlinks…..and this is especially a bummer if you sell your service based on # of backlinks per mo.
There should be a tool somewhere that pulls ALL backlinks regardless of whether they are indexed or not so that you could show your clients this.
Is there such a tool?
On the flip side, I guess I could sell my services based on “keyword” rank improvement, but there’s no good way to do this. (that I can think of)
Can you see my dilemma?
Ken
Hey Ken,
I like to use majesticseo.com for pure numbers of backlinks. If you go to that site and type in the URL you’re interested in, it will show the total number of backlinks for that site. You can look at graphs that show either the total number of backlinks found each month (monthly view), or the number of backlinks in total (cumulative view).
Hope this helps a bit.
Ken, what Anon said is right, you can’t really depend on link checkers or counters to determine these things, in the end game all that matters is what happens to your rankings. If they go up service = good, if not then try and find those generated backlinks and get a list going then use some tools to get them indexed, but LinxBoss works fine without having to delve into all that minutiae as you’re experiencing now.
However, I find that it’s more cost effective to generate links and let them get indexed than it is to spend a lot of time trying to garner up a list of self-generated links then attempting to getting those links indexed, but still…getting non indexed backlinks solidly indexed does pay off big time, but I digress…
If people are using Linxboss primarily for affiliate sites and keyword match domains, what do you recommend for building links to “authority” type sites that you want to rank long term in a particular niche with?
I’m using linxboss primarily for keyword domains and affiliate sites, but thats only because I want quick rankings and easy monetisation. However my main site is NOT a keyword domain, and it sells a product that my Father and I produce. We used a bunch of link building techniques and had managed a top 10 ranking which began to slip onto the second page.
Using Linxboss has been the absolute best technique we’ve used. We now have number 1 for our main keyword and several more top 5 rankings for other keywords. Our rankings have stayed where they are for several months now, I am inclined to think these will be long term rankings because the links keep getting built even when we have top ranking already.
The domain previous to linxboss was about 3 years old and had links from XRumer blasts, article submissions, a few blog comments and a very small portion came from people who actually recommended our products on their websites. All this had given us a maximum of rank 5 which lasted maybe 2 weeks before a long decline which went on for months going down to 6 then 8 and finally hopping about between 14 and 10. Linxboss powered us through to top in a slow fashion over 3 months and a half up to number 1. It basically saved our site.
I think Linxboss therefore is both good for “authority” type sites (depending on your definition) and exact match domains.
I hope that helps.
Hey Anon,
Thanks for this reply (I’m way behind on reading through these comments – haha). I currently have a keyword domain site and a large authority site that I want to build links to, so your comment really helps answer my question about ranking “authority” sites. On my authority site, I’m basically looking to build lots of links to the main page to help all the other inner pages rank a bit better. I have over 100,000 pages on the site at the moment, so you can see that it would be kind of insane for me to try to build links to all of them individually. Thanks again.
Great results, a really good idea, well thought out and well executed. IDeal for some IM’s, however for many 5 URL’s is not nearly enough.
It might be Ok for people with 1 or 2 large sites who only monetize a couple of pages per site I suppose, but for those of us with 50+ “medium sized” (200-1000 page) sites, who monetize almost every page, then this tool wouldn’t even tickle the surface. “Which 5 of my 10,000+ pages do I want to promote this month?” It would take this tool literally 3 lifetimes to do the work I would need.
It would take 10 years even if I bought 20 licences
That’s not a question I can see me bothering to ask myself that often.
And many IM’s have far more sites and pages than me. (the microsite boys who are really hot build 5+ new sites a week, with 2-3 money pages per site)
Ideal minimum would be 5000 not 5.
The very severe restrictions on URL’s makes this a solution for a very specific sort of internet marketer, or at best just a small part of a much bigger link building toolset.
Myself, I like to have no more than 3 link building tools. More than that and something gets underused. (less than that and you get redundant link building)
For such huge limitations, $127 is just too much.
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Great results, a really good idea, well thought out and well executed. IDeal for some IM’s, however for many 5 URL’s is not nearly enough.
It might be Ok for people with 1 or 2 large sites who only monetize a couple of pages per site I suppose, but for those of us with 50+ “medium sized” (200-1000 page) sites, who monetize almost every page, then this tool wouldn’t even tickle the surface. “Which 5 of my 10,000+ pages do I want to promote this month?” It would take this tool literally 3 lifetimes to do the work I would need.
It would take 10 years even if I bought 20 licences
Its for people who want to bump up the main domains urls for 2-3 main kws, or mini-sites builders who want to pop in a url to get it ranked, then take it out and put a new one in. Like I said, it’s a luxury item for people who want their link building taken care of for them. BTW, Most people do NOT have more than 5 sites, which is why you’ll see people selling their extra spots.
That’s not a question I can see me bothering to ask myself that often.
And many IM’s have far more sites and pages than me. (the microsite boys who are really hot build 5+ new sites a week, with 2-3 money pages per site)
Ideal minimum would be 5000 not 5.
The very severe restrictions on URL’s makes this a solution for a very specific sort of internet marketer, or at best just a small part of a much bigger link building toolset.
Myself, I like to have no more than 3 link building tools. More than that and something gets underused. (less than that and you get redundant link building)
For such huge limitations, $127 is just too much.
For people like us, maybe, but I use it still and added more campaign urls so I can target more of my mini-sites and rank them up, one by one whilst building links via other methods.
I saw that you didn’t like UAW, that Linx Boss is too restrictive for you, that you have over 50 websites, and that you’re an Xrumer user.
Pro IMs like you are ( I assume) need more power in their tools so yes, Xrumer is good for you and maybe UAW is beneath you at this point as are all these other tools except for Xrumer. One thing you must do though, is get links for all these different sources (blog networks, MAN, AMA SEO Link Vine, UAW, BMR, AR, etc….._) to vary and obfuscate your inbound linking profiles when competition scrutinizes it. Hope this makes sense
Yes – i read you there.
Your points about having more than one source are very valid.
I’m not a massive Xrumer fan. The set up I use is my brothers, and homes based and limited to 4-6 threads it’s not lightening quick. I think it’s all a question of scale. Always have a slightly uneasy feeling about the links.
Linx looks a fantastic tool for certain types of IM. Maybe the market leader.
Interested in your take on multiple link sources. I read all the time about people with 10-15 tools. For me that would be way to many.
The learning curve for each one, and the time taken to use it might make it prohibitive in the long run. Not withstanding the fact that many don’t last more than a year or two before the whole basis on which they were devised becomes obsolete our saturated (caffeinated content anyone?)
There is a sweet spot between my desire to learn new systems (and use them often enough for them to be worth having) and spreading the link love effectively.
Three very different methods or tools at once seems to work for me, (article site submitter,blog network and maybe minipost/bookarking) but I get the impression you hammer out the link juice on many more than that.
I suppose the question is – is time better spent creating content or distributing it through various methods? I’m currently 70-30 percentage wise (at a guess). So any more time spent distributing means less time creating and vice versa.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Paul cool discussion (do I call you “bloke”?)
Some SEO gurus tell you that more pages means more traffic which means you “win”. But nowadays, I’d rather write less and link/promote more.
Basically, just spend time writing some quality content for a high search term, make the content really good, then make all that effort count for something by ranking it via backlinks.
Xrumer is an effective tool in the right hands, and this works well for people who know how to convert their visitors and have an income that can withstand the costs of it. I use every tool listed on the “recommended page” of this site and Xrumer and some others, too.
One thing not covered in that section is the all-important task of getting backlinks indexed, and this is crucial to do, yet so easy to set up, but it’s yet another expenditure of time and money, so there’s another tool, service, script that people should invest in, too.
But 10-15 tools, or services? Not really needed in my opinion
Hi Daniel. I have been using BLS for six months now and UAW for 9 months. It was a great mix but BLS seems to have lost its effectiveness recently. It seems that UAW is indispensable and should be the foundation of any link building campaign especially if you use your tactics of adding multiple variables to the article with UAW. I can only afford BLS or Linx at this point and I’m working with one domain and just a few sub pages for my products. Based on your experience if dumped BLS for Linx Boss and continued UAW with one of the two do you think that would be the best combo. Would you recommend Linx Boss over Backlinks Solutions?
Hi David good questions. If you check the NOT recommended list, you’ll see Backlink Solutions is on there, unfortunately, and if you read any post in the Backlink Solutions category, you’ll see there’s big warnings there saying not to join.
I recommended you get Article Maketing Robot before it becomes a monthly fee, it’s a pretty powerful tool, and it my tests prove out correctly, might even be more powerful than UAW. GET AMR, it’s one time fee. LinkBoss isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Join it when you’re making more money, since it’s basically a luxury item
Woah, this is first time I heard you weren’t recommending BLS anymore. I wonder what happened :/
Thanks Daniel for getting back to me. It’s bummer that UMR just switched to the dreaded monthly subscription fad. Looks like $77 up front and then it rolls into $37 every 30 days. I could afford that, do you still suggest it after yesterdays comment about UAW, Linx Boss, and BLS?
Even more so now. I spoke with him for about an hour the other day, the improvements and added features will be well worth it, and hopefully the membership gets capped. Once GOOD tools get used, over-used then abused, then it’s no longer a viable solution, which is why I’m happy he did what he did. I can just see the bot-spinning BlackHatters, running over to use this and just dumping junk on the net
David, I’m glad they went to monthly fee, and I suggested that happen sooner rather than later, otherwise this will become a defunct obsolete, no-longer-working tool. This is one tool I am not going to “push heavily. Cat’s far enough out of the bag already. If people can’t see the value in paying 37/month to get 500-700 INDEXED backlinks per spun article, then they might as well join SEO Nitro and Elite SEO Link Vine
So I was checking out the video’s from UMR and I still don’t know, do you have to manually sign up for each of the the article distribution sites individually?
Comment didn’t go through the first time! So reposting:
This is probably a dumb question, but can I get one $127 subscription of LB and use it for one site? Just promoting different pages of the site. Or must I use 5 sites, no less?
Do you think that would be overkill though? I really value your opinion now Dan (having read through your blog countless times and visiting it often). I joined BB recently but am about to leave, my gut says its about to go bad.
The url I’m thinking of promoting with LB is a new one I just bought, 14 yrs old pr3 though. Any suggestions? My main kw has 2mn competition, but there are low-hanging fruit as well. Really looking forward to hearing your suggestions
Blog Blueprint is no longer something I’d consider using; I just put it on the No join List, along with BLS.
Regarding Linx Boss, I wouldn’t do that Ash. Linx Boss is a luxury item, and sometimes can be hit or miss, (works about 75% of the time for 15 sites I have in there constantly). Your real competition is the site son page 1 and some on page 2.
Are there authority sites there, other EMDs, how many backlinks they got? etc….
Read this post Ash.
I can’t really give you a link building battleplan, but with an aged domain that hopefully NEVER dropped, you can do some heavy linking to it if it has some linking velocity to it already, or at very least, some good amount of links to it already.
Hope this helps,
Dan
Gah, my first reply got eaten up.
Sorry if my question sounded newbie-ish. I get very impatient at times, in a “I want 2000 links right now!” kind of way. I know nothing is a magic bullet and I’m looking for link diversity as well.
At this stage, I’ll probably get 1 LB slot for this domain and use the other slots for other sites. Might rent out a few slots, since most of my sites are low-comp niches that I don’t need LB for (sites already ranking etc).
Thanks for your review of AMR, it was really helpful. I’ll be getting that as well.
I have a plan of attack in mind, I’ll update you how things go – this will probably be an interesting case study
The top guys are all doing white-hat stuff, not a single profile link in sight (I’ve already done a detailed analysis).
OK, Ash, here’s some posts that might help..
Link building strategies > New sites
Link building strategies > tiered linking stuff.
Hope those help, too!
Oh and I forgot to say, thanks for your quick reply
I second that. Found this place a few weeks ago, now wouldn’t buy an SEO product without checking Dan’s opinion first.
Just started using Lynx Boss a week ago. Won’t be able to isolate results attributable only to it because I’m combining it with BMR and UAW.
Looks promising so far.
Not sure how much good it’s Links For Links feature is but I’m using it nonetheless. I’ll give it a month and report my results.
Hi Daniel, just wondering if after a few months of using boss your still happy with your results your getting? when you say competitive what sort of terms do you consider to be competitive? or moderate?
thanks for the honest reviews, its refreshing.
Hi there, yes I’m still satisfied with LinxBoss, just not as thrilled and overwhelmed as I was when I first started using them. Nowaday it seem slike a hit or miss kinda thing with their service, but when it’s HIT it’s fantastic, and when it’s MISS it does nothing. They, too are developing some things that will make their service better and deliver more varied links
Thanks for your reply, Daniel. do you think there is any pattern at all to the misses?maybe how competitive the keyword is? what would you consider competitive?
I haven’t seen any pattern, rhyme nor reason to it, sometimes low comp EMDS didn’t move after a month, and sometimes hard comp inner urls not on an EMD shot up quite a bit…
Just wanted to give my feedback with Linxboss after using it for almost 3 months now. I had really hoped that this service would provide good results because of not having to write content, but sadly it has not.
Out of 5 domains that I have had in the system the whole time, only one saw a jump in SERPs. That happened within the first two weeks (from #52 to #25). Nothing since then. The other 4 domains have shown little or no improvement.
I really don’t see any difference in the quality of links compared to DFB. And with DFB I get a ton more links. My only point is that if I am getting crappy links then I want a ton of them!
I’m going to give LB until my next payment date to redeem itself…but I’m not holding my breath. Too bad because I thought this was going to be a good solution for me. Right now I am seeing excellent results with BMR. Recently add DFB, so we’ll see how that combo does.
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thanks
ok ok…. me again…. lol…. product number three im going to test from you damn it stop taking my money
….I have 5 newer sites… about 50-100 backlinks to them… yes i know i have done nothing lol…all for very easy keywords…. all have been tested in ppc to sell very well… do u think its to early to add in this service to them?
My recommended practice and theirs, too… is to develop a modicum of decent quality backlinks to those sites first, so it’s easier to use Linx Boss to boost them the rest of the “way”…. but I try everything and what I’ve done with some new sites is I let them get indexed, then put them into LinxBoss brand new (links-wise) then as the link count goes up a bit, like after 1 month or 2, I use a DFB blast on them once a week and that seems to work really well. DFB is dripfeedblasts.com and I have 3 memberships there, 2 highest level memberships and one lowest price membership, and I use the lowest price one to blast 7 sites a week once a week with a fairly low amount of new links and then rotate sites out of DFb and Linxboss once they’re ranking well. Sometimes I go back to these sites and solidify their rankings with some BMR posts, to offset the loss of links that happens AFTER DFB blasts go out, hope that makes sense
Hi
We have an authority site that received about 200,000 visitors per day with about million pages. Linxboss does not allow one domain to get 1000 backlinks. Ideally, I would like to distribute 1000 backlinks in 5 of the omain’s pages. Can you suggest something Daniel? Is there anything similar to Linxboss that can do what I need. Cost is not that much of a concern.
Anyone try promoting squidoo lenses with Linxboss? I’d imagine Squidoo would give you a pretty decent bump and the Linxboss links would help bring some competitive terms up the SERPS.
Though from what I can garner, you can only promote one lense at a time since they’d all be from the same domain.
Richard not sure why you’d want to promote just Squidoo lenses? when obviously the lenses would be linking to money sites, so there’s 2 sites that can be linked to now, add in a hubpages.com hub and there’s 3 domains you can link to.
Add in an EzineArticles.com article and one other entity and you now have 5 urls on 5 different domains that can get LB links.
Well I’m thinking that if you do it properly, you could use the squidoo lens as if it were a squeeze page to another product you’re promoting (not necessarily your own page, but the landing page of some clickbank offer or something).
I’m just thinking that with all the link power squidoo has, if you make a good lense that gets promoted well within squidoo and has good lensrank, it typically should have around a PR3 or PR4 (at least from what I have seen from the top lenses).
Good point on the hubpages and ezines.
hey i want to bring back up the point u made with his…. could u have say 4 web 2.0 sites getting link from linx boss and the last one be your sales page…. i mean basicly wouldnt u get most of the 1000 or however many links get indexed from linxboss? i can see that actually working… am i wrong?
Hi Sean, yes that would work, just remember that 2 lenses on Squidoo are still counted as one domain url, so you’d have to do 4 totally different web entities, as mentioned earlier in the comments thread here, I believe. But since you’re going to use LB this way, try ranking the web 2.0s for all sorts of different, related, yet relevant terms so they “corral” the potential traffic from the various keyword search terms you can rank for to send targeted traffic to that aforementioned sales letter.
Thanks,
Dan
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