Pingback Optimizer

by Daniel on October 30, 2010

in Link building tools

Recently a new plugin was released or promoted and its called Pingback Optimizer.

Part of the reason this is getting a lot of attention nowadays is that some heavy hitters like Keith Baxter are promoting it.

NOTE: I believe it was Keith Baxter who interview Jared from Trackback Spider, and that product sucks, just saying….

What does Pingback Optimizer do?

It captures all the pingbacks and trackbacks you get to your wordpress blogs, puts them into their own rss feed so you can submit them to RSS directories and what not to get links to your links…

How’s this getting links to your links?

When you submit the trackback feed or pingback feed urls to the rss directories, those directories link to the urls on your pingback/trackback rss feed.

This is OLD news as far as I am concerned, and I’ve been doing this and preaching this for almost 12 months.

Does it work, yes

Should you do it, yes

Should you use Pingback Optimizer to accomplish this?

No

NO, because the plugin referenced in this post on automated link building does all that and more, is cheaper for unlimited domains license, and with the purchase of it (the trackback feed plugin), you also get a plugin called the indexing plugin, which helps to add even more automation your linking to these links.

Read this post here on automated link building with RSS to understand the best ways to use RSS for backlinking things.

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Vusal October 31, 2010 at 6:52 am

Dan,

You have mentioned “Web Traffic Genius RSS software” before in one of your posts,
What is the difference between WTG Rss software and the indexing tool?
Which one is better?

Thanks,

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Daniel McGonagle October 31, 2010 at 8:05 am

WTG does RSS submissions, on per site basis and per article/per post basis…

Index Tool is something different that passively gets whatever links you want indexed, slowly and not in massive numbers though, but it’s passive, and works extremely well with the trackbackfeed plugin.

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Vusal October 31, 2010 at 9:58 am

Thanks for reply Dan,

Lets say I have feed that I have uploaded myself (by the way is it possible?), that contains links, just like http://linkvanareviews.com/trackbackfeed

Which tool would you recommend me to use?

Thanks,

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Daniel McGonagle October 31, 2010 at 11:43 am

Vusal, why bother, just use the other tool mentioned to get the TB feed made for you, simple as that really don’t complicate things when the price for accomplishing this is so low…know what I mean?

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ALex@Jocuri October 31, 2010 at 4:16 pm

This is a plugin available only for wp right?
And where is the link to a sales page or download link for the plugin (I hope I am not blind and the link is right in front of me).

I just started reading your blog, and man you are awesome, I am already starting to apply some of your tips. It’s good to have all this information in one place.

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Daniel McGonagle October 31, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Alex, thanks for dropping by, and for the feedback. You might want to read a little slower :) This post directs you to what I think (opinion) is a better tool to do same job if not more, and cheaper if used on multiple sites

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Blackman November 3, 2010 at 10:48 am

Hi Dan,

Loving your blog and using ALL your recommended link building services. Got a question for you. What do you think of social bookmarking for SEO? Do you recommend doing it, and if so, what automated tools do you use or would suggest?

Thanks in advance

Steven

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PaulF November 10, 2010 at 3:32 am

Hey Dan,

In this post you stated that “It (Pingback Optimizer) captures all the pingbacks and trackbacks you get to your wordpress blogs, puts them into their own rss feed so you can submit them to RSS directories and what not to get links to your links…”

But if you take another look at the Pingback Optimizer sales page, it says that the plugin actually submits the RSS feeds to directories for you. It mentions 10 or so RSS directories that is submits to automatically.

As far as I can tell, the Indexing Tool doesn’t do automated RSS feed submissions. They have to be done manually by the user. Of course, if the developer codes this functionality into the Indexing Tool, you won’t hear me complaining.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the Indexing Tool is still a good deal for what it does. And I suppose someone who only has a handful of sites wouldn’t mind manually submitting their trackback feed to RSS directories. But when you’ve got hundreds or even dozens of sites in your portfolio, the automated RSS feed submission feature provided by Pingback Optimizer can be a huge time-saver.

While I do work with outsourced talent on some things, I don’t have a huge team of Virtual Assistants right now. So, something like Pingback Optimizer could relieve the pure link building tedium that has become my daily routine. I’m gonna take the plunge and add the Pingback Optimizer to some of my sites. We’ll see how it goes.

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Daniel McGonagle November 10, 2010 at 11:09 am

One thing I lef tout was that which you mentioned, the rss submissions. But since I also use web traffic genius, I auto submit to rss directories, but about 10X the amount of directories that PBO does.

What people should do, really, is collect pingbacks to site A with PBO or Indexing Tool, then create index drive site, site B that scrapes the pingback/trackback feeds and creates posts out of what is scraped, ahh I’ll write something up here so I don’t give half an answer

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PaulF November 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm

Thanks for shedding a little more light, Dan. I use Web Traffic Genius, too. It’s absolutely great for making RSS feeds out of your individual posts and submitting them to several directories.

Initially, Pingback Optimizer seemed attractive to me for the link boosting it does with automated submission of the pingback feed. But what you say about an index driver site that automatically scrapes the pingback/trackback feed sounds appealing as it clearly eliminates my need for PBO.

Now that I think about it, I can probably do this with the BLE plugin since it pulls and posts data from RSS feeds. I hope I’m on the right page here. If I am, then you may have just helped me connect a few more dots. Either way, I’ll look forward to your write-up on this.

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PaulF November 10, 2010 at 7:32 pm

I just came across a write-up you did on dailyseotips.com. It leads to two posts you wrote on this blog about using Twitter and Delicious for creating index drivers. This connects a few more dots for me.

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Daniel McGonagle November 10, 2010 at 7:42 pm

OK, cool yea those blog posts were guest author blog posts I wrote on SEO sites when doing some testing to see how well that worked, and the content there was lifted/re-hashed from the Link Liberation 1 course… But you have the right idea and you don’t even need an index driver when there’s BacklinkBooster.com BB the script, BacklinksEnergizer etc…. so don’t read too much into those posts since I wrote those before I knew about BIE and before Energizer came out (especially not the Delicious post)

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PaulF November 10, 2010 at 7:58 pm

Oh okay. Thanks. This is far more simple than I thought. I’ll just plug the pingback/trackback feeds into BLE and call it a day.

Do you recommend mixing in other RSS feeds into the mix (like from news or other niche-related sites) to make for better content on the index driver site or does it matter at all?

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Daniel McGonagle November 10, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Yes it IS quite easy when you have the tools at your disposal already. And yes, mix in other feeds as well, to keep index driver site on theme. BIE sites may not be thematic though, which is why I just use a semi-related (often an abandoned) site to do the index driving

Daniel McGonagle November 10, 2010 at 7:44 pm

I was told I should do a video to explain this better, but someone would have to pay me dearly to do that, since I can’t stand making videos, otherwise there’d be a ton more here on the site

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Jerry November 11, 2010 at 8:01 pm

Can anyone tell me if the backlinkbooster.com program is doing a good job of indexing their backlinks? If it is not then I might buy BIE or Backlinks Energizer or just try to join linkjuicemaximizer.com.

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Josh November 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm

Hi Dan,

I somewhat follow what you are saying here in this post about index driver sites, etc…but to simply things, I have PBO. I have this plugin generate the RSS feed and then submit it to the 11 RSS directories automatically. In addition to that, I plan on exporting these pingback/trackback URLs and pluging them into LJM when it comes out to help them get indexed and for boosting affect.

This is pretty much all that is needed or required correct? The index driver site setup you outline is just another strategy or a tactic to implement if one doesn’t have LJM, BE, or some other boosting/indexing tool correct? Just trying to clarify some things!

Thanks and love this blog!

Josh

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Josh November 12, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Correction: The Index driver site setup was actually mentioned on the most recent post, not this one.

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Daniel McGonagle November 12, 2010 at 10:53 pm

Hey Josh, if PBO did submissions to more directories then I would be OK with that and deem it the tool of choice for what it does. The index driver site thing is actually easier than doing any RSS submissions. If you had 20 or 500 sites then using a BIE net or energizer clusters would make the RSS stuff un-necessary, in my opinion since you don’t really want to spend as much or more time indexing your backlinks than you are with getting and creating new ones.

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Luke November 18, 2010 at 1:32 pm

Dan, any reason why you don’t have an affiliate link for BLE? It looks as though I’m gonna buy it, after Steve answers my few questions. I’ve read some shockingly useful free content on this site today. Really. So if you have a link it’ll be nice to buy from here. It’ll be $10 more than on the forums but who cares? Your content has real value for me.

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Daniel McGonagle November 18, 2010 at 4:34 pm

Luke hold on for a few hours or even a day I’ll get you a small discount on this, like 37 bucks ok?

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Luke November 19, 2010 at 5:06 am

Yeah, no worries I can definitely wait a while. I was investigating promotion yesterday. For the next week or more I’m switching my attention back to the publishing side of business.

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Steve November 20, 2010 at 6:07 pm

Daniel,

I just got Backlink Energizer and Paul’s Indexing plugin.

I’m trying to cobble together all of the thoughts you’ve posted in previous posts and comments, and what I’ve come up with is this…

I can create an RSS feed using the trackbackfeed plugin, then plug the feed into Backlink Energizer to index the UAW posts.

Following this method, I wouldn’t have to use the Indexing tool plugin, right?

BTW, thanks for this blog. You are definitely one of the guys I go to for expert SEO advice.

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Sammy January 31, 2011 at 11:33 am

My concern with these plugins is that a lot of these sites we get links from are low quality spammy sites. With pingback optimizer or the indexing tool we’re in essence linking to these spammy sites in order to get them indexed.

I’ve heard a lot of people raise this concern here and over at backlinks forum and it seems to be getting ignored. I’m all for getting my links indexed in an automated manner but linking to all these sites that are spammy by nature can’t be good for our sites.

I like the idea of just using the plugins to scrape the URL’s of the pingbacks and using services like backlinkbooster.com or BLE to do the actual indexing.

What are your thoughts Dan?

P.S I noticed that I called you “dave” in another comment I made. I appologize for that. Dan, Dave… It just sounded similar.

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Daniel January 31, 2011 at 9:58 pm

Sammy good question also…

You’re right in that you don’t really want to be PERMANENTLY linking to crappy neighborhoods, if that’s where the links are coming from, which is why it’s OK to do it temporarily, but even better to use 3d party entities and virtual real estate to do that linking for you.

In other words, approve the trackbacks and pingbacks you get, leave them there for a while to make your site work at indexing them, but later on remove them form your site, but not before you grabbed the list of TBs and PBs and ran them through an indexer/booster type of tool or service.

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