I haven’t done a review on SE Nuke even though I’ve used it for a while.
Actually, to clarify that…. I’ve used SE Nuke several times AND for a while since I’ve had to cancel simply because it wasn’t a tool I was comfortable using and there’s plenty of SE Nuke alternatives out there anyways.
SE Nuke is a powerful, powerful tool but for heavy hitters who will repeatedly work this tool for maximum effect.
It’s also pricey, and for a reason (it does a lot). I used to think that SE Nuke was only good for dominating low-to-medium competition terms but why would anyone bother paying over 100/month unless they’re master niche researchers finding all these golden nuggets easy micro niches?
However, like with any tool repeated used makes for more desired results being achieved, and SE Nuke can help you rank for competitive terms with repeated use.
You also don’t want to be buying SE Nuke if you’re on a tight budget because it comes with a heft price tag, and if you’re on a tight budget then you may not be able to splurge on a tool like this.
Also if you don’t already have your own winning formula for making money-making websites or a formula for why you’d want to use all the modules within SE Nuke then it’s definitely not something you want to invest time and money in
What’s are best alternatives to SE Nuke?
- Outsourcing SE Nuke tasks to an SE Nuke outsourcing service
- Brute Force EVO II – sucks, doesn’t do profiles linking well but does other things OK
- Link Builder Pro – works well for making Web 2.0 entities, has less sites it can work with than SE Nuke
- SERP Assist - lower-priced wanna-be SE Nuke, but has far less web entities and features
For $127/month you can get a lot of SE Nuke-like tasks done for you and you won’t need to carry the “weight” of carrying a hefty monthly membership fee along with the pressure of having to learn how to use it properly, and for max effect. I consider outsourcing the best SE Nuke alternative since it means you get the full power of this tool without having to do anything.
However, if you have a staff, or people working for you, you can familiarize them with the ins-and-outs of working with SE nuke then pay them a salary to work this tool hard. Of course you’ll need to apply massive action here to make it worth the monthly fee and the salary you might be paying your staffers…
So where to find the best SE Nuke services?
- Google (se nuke services, se nuke outsourcing)
- Backlinksforum (BFSOs section)
- Warriorforum (WSOs section)
Personally, I prefer using blog networks and article syndication services for my link building and article syndication since it means I keep getting links from diverse range of IP addresses
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Bleh – I don’t really like SEO Nuke. I’ve only used the trial though so I’m not a long time tester.
There’s a lot of hype around this tool and the guy on the intro video sounds like he’s lying about everything he says.
In my opinion there are much better ways to spend $127 a month in SEO terms.
True, there might be better ways to spend 127/month but it does do a lot of things, and like Link Dozer, it could help people stay organized, and being organized and persistent and efficient has its own rewards, too
I’ve talked with Dave and he says his top priority is adding more web 2.0 sites for posting. I think the idea of serp assist is just so much better that’s it’s going to be worth it in the long run. Although since I got it, about 8 days ago, he has already added more web 2.0′s, which is all I really care about. People over at the senuke forums seem to favor the profile module over the others, which makes it a very expensive profile poster. There are much better alternatives out there. Plus, the owner of serpassist is working on several different diagram features where you can just select a certain level spoke link wheel to be created. Pop your content in, then check back in about 36 hours and it’s done. But, the best part is the scheduler.
Don’t get me wrong, I like senuke, but for the most part, I find serpassist to be a better value to me.
Thanks for the review.
Thanks for the feedback David. I still maintain that more sites are need in order for SERP Assist to be worth paying 77/month for
Hi Guys,
Firstly I would like to say I had the full version of se nuke a while back for 3months.
In my opinion it was one of the least time versus quality buys i made.
The training recieved was terrible so it took me a while to learn how to use it properly.
I think it was ok at link building but for me the simple line was that it just took far far to long making accounts and submitting articles plus was a far to exspensive monthly fee.
There are better one of payment softwares out there that are able to create accounts and submit to 2,000 accounts in aprox 1.5hours.
Plus other advantages…
Could se nuke compete with that?
Thanks for the review. I use SEnuke and SERP Assist and I like them both. I’ve tried Link Builder Pro and Evo II, but they just didn’t gel with me.
There was a time when I used the pro version of SEnuke. But I later found alternatives to the pro features that I could snag for a one-time payment. So, I downgraded to the Lite version because I haven’t found anything as efficient for managing multiple web 2.0 blogs. It’s one of the backbones of my link building.
As for SERP Assist, I share the same sentiments as David. I really like how the visual diagramming and actual implementation work hand-in-hand. Plus, I like not having to babysit the software and have it hog up resources. I can map out huge link networks in one sitting. It’s really efficient once you master it. I don’t plan on getting rid of it anytime soon.
One thing I forgot to mention about SERP Assist is that I got in as a BETA tester. So, I pay a discounted rate.
Honestly (I’m with Dan here), I don’t think I would pay $77 or $97 per month given it current list of sites. However, I could see it becoming worth as much when more sites and features are added.
I’ve already seen a number of new sites and features rolled out since I joined a few months ago. So, I’d say in a couple of months, SERP Assist will emerge as a heavy-hitter, especially when version 2.0 is launched.
I’ve got to put my foot in my mouth here, Dan.
After our chat yesterday I decided to take a closer look at my projects in SERP Assist to see if my diagrams were congruent with the actual work that was completed by SERP Assist. Anyway, I have to say I was disappointed. It’s not as automated as I thought.
Before SERP Assist I used Bubbl.us (and still do) to map things out visually. Given this, I have to admit I was pretty taken by SERP Assist’s ability to execute what I had mapped out visually. I figured that with this tool I could automate the portions of my linking diagrams that involve posting content on web 2.0 blog sites.
However, after further review, it’s not as efficient as I thought. Thus, it has a long, long way to go. And I don’t have the patience to wait for it to get there – at least when that patience requires some $$$ from my pocket. So, I’m cancelling my subscription.
I still maintain that the program is newbie-friendly (but I still don’t think it’s worth the $77 or $97 monthly price tag). It has been efficient in posting content to the web 2.0 blog sites. Even though, it can take a few days for it to actually create the accounts and publish the content. I have to admit, however, that sometimes this is pretty slow, too – at least for me. But it eventually gets around to it without much more input needed from the user apart from submitting the tasks to the SA Central server.
The profile linking portion leaves much to be desired also. The way SERP Assist works, you have to tell it to create a new email account for each profile link in your diagram. Honestly, I didn’t discover this until today. It’s in the SERP Assist forum, I just overlooked it initially. Plus, the language of the original sales page gave me the impression that the entire process was completely automated. Well, I put tons of profile links in my diagrams. And, honestly, I don’t have the patience to go through and tell SERP Assist to create a new email account for each individual profile link and then wait days for it to actually post the link.
Besides that, there aren’t many profile sites to choose from. There are profile link building bots out there that are much more efficient for building profile links and some of them only require a one-time payment.
Sorry for the long comment. But after singing the praises of SERP Assist (a tool I think still has potential but still has a long, long way to go) I thought I should be forthright about where I stand with it now.
Thanks for making me think
Paul
Thanks Paul, mind if I do some sort of SERP Assist review post based on your experiences (name withheld) and our conversation?
Sure, go right ahead.
Dan
Can you write one post about your way to outsource the article ?
SENUke is like a “wide but shallow” pool.
It performs a lot of functions – none of them particularly well.
The keyword tool is shunned (even in Nukes own forums) in favour of MNF or Samurai. The spinner is shunned for Best Spinner (which now plugs into Nuke – sort of an admission of mediocrity IMO)
The account creation is flakey, and has huge omissions, the content submission is ok, but limited (due to the omissions in account creation)
It seems unhappy to accept additional sites or scripts, and the ones that are packaged with it are now little more than “spam palaces” with hundreds up hundreds of Nuke users firing in poorly written IM copy by the bucketload.
The result is that it either gets deleted on site – or the webmasters in question have given up (and the site is losing credibility)
My link checking was showing Nuke’s performance – whilst adequate in 2009 and early 2010 – was on a rapid downward spiral from about May 2010.
I use stand alone, customizable tools now.
This might involve a little more in the way of project management – but it is for a fraction of the cost of Nuke (most of the tools are one-off payments) and the results are hugely superior to Nuke.
After modding the new tools (by adding many more sites than those they ship with) my results are vastly superior to Nuke – even when it was in its pomp.
Paul, thanks for chiming in here….so what standalone tool can be customized to create, publish to, and manage more Web 2.0s than SE nuke?
Outsource backlinking,article writing trust me it works in quality. dunno why senuke is so hyped and not worth $127. Acquire links and Keep going.
atleast if not hire a coder and you goota program ure own software or script. developing in php will cost few hundreds depends on no of sites u wanna submit and manage(without GUI).
Tried Magic submiter?
I haven’t tried it except for one time when I bought an outsourced link building package that included SE nuke blasts and Magic submissions, with dismal results. Someone commented on this blog recently and said that Magic could be tweaked to include more article directories to submit to, and if that’s the case, then it’s a tool that can be customized into a powerhouse tool, much like sick Profile Maker can be used to build itself into a real powerhouse, too. In my opinion it’s NOT a powerhouse tools out of the box though, and that’s basically what most people want; a powerful and effective out of the box solution.
Thanks sir. Good article.
I have come up with a “formula” but my budget has not allowed me to try out yet. But it is practically hiring someone for SE Nuke and Xrumer and building a backlink network.
I hope this formula works, if it does, it will bring me up to first page for keywords that have less than 10K competition “intitle”.
John, you’re pretty close to the winning formula, you need SE Nuke, Xrumer, and an indexing network to achieve what you want
Thanks for the reply dear sir.
What did you mean with index network? You mean to ping everything? If so its part of the service I will buy (package includes building a mini network with 8+ web 2.0 sites and using the two software to give the 8 web 2.0 sites i.e squidoo and hubpage like 5000+ links that then is filtered into my site
)
Many thanks.
Speak to you soon.
I use Xrumer. It is more flexible, 10$ is not that much and it is effective if u have a base of 50-60k forum profiles u can leave your back link too.
Also I agree – custom tools, mini nets and free bloghosts (if u have 1000-2000 of them) are a real rush for gray seo we play in.
Konstantine
BTW in Russia or India custom scripts cost some less money. I paid 20$ for php emailer and bought some WP abd Blogspot accs for 10-5 cents each.
Ping me if u need help with this.
Konstantine
OK, good to know Konstantine, hit me up on Skype please to discuss
Aaa, lovely sir!
I learned so much from your blog.
Many thanks for that.
Keep up the good work.
John
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for all the information you’ve been providing. I’ve been learning alot and have been using UAW for the past month.
Any experience or knowledge of Xgen Seo? It’s a cheaper alternative to SE Nuke, and offers more Web 2.0 sites than Serpassist.
There’s a 14 day free trial as well.
Tim
There’s really STILL no better alternative to SE Nuke for what SE Nuke does.
XGENOSEO isn’t good, and that’s merely anecdotal reference/opinion, albeit from a trusted source
I thought I would leap to SerpAssist’s defence here. I have been using it a lot recently and do really like it. If you only have one or two sites it isnt worth using but if you have a few it definitely is.
I love the fact that it is pretty hands off and I also like the fact that if sites go down like Vox that SerpAssist will in the background replace that site with another.
Sure sometimes it doesn’t always work out to plan and sometimes there are slight backlogs but if you talk to Dave the developer he is pretty on the ball and together when it comes to any troubleshooting.
My biggest success with it so far is a 1st page ranking for a site with 135,000 monthly searches where I am the only 1st page site with 0PR.
It is also continuously improving.
I suspect that SE’s have got savvy to the whole “auto web2.0″ creation racket.
IMO these tools all leave a huge footprint. In that they only fill in the absolute bare minimum of profile information when setting up a site.
No “about me” no “photo” no change of default theme, no “find your friends” or whatever.
I reckon, REAL users will mostly fill in a lot of these fields – or at least a decent percentage of them.
Twitter following tools for instance now chack for “full profiles” before following a user – to try and weed out the “multi profile user accounts” from the real people.
I know that’s an abstract example, but these Wordpress.com sites all with standard theme, no bio, no photo etc etc. Well, I’d give users 90 days to get some info up – or delete them if I was in their shoes.
The best web2.0 creation is done by hand. It takes maybe 10 minutes a site. You can still pump in spun content if you must, but it’s possible to have a 6 node strructure up in around an hour. (remember, you have to write/source the original content whether you automoate sign up and submission or not) Yes, spin it if you want (something else you have to do or outsource whether you automate or not).
I don’t make a massive number of web2 sites, as many now are no follow or have begun to stink in the last year or so, but those I do I make by hand – I can honestly say every single one I have ever made has been indexed, and not one site deleted.
I also find that adding to exising structures (for new keywords/links) by adding new pages or posts or modules or whatever is better than creating new structures. BUt many web2 creation tools do not let you do that at all.
Finally, the updating of these tools is woeful.
http://www.yourmetalife dot com/?page_id=106
(replace the dot with a simple “.”)
THis is the last submission I could be bothered to make with magic submitter. Notice how all the listed errors are script errors (cannot find this button, cannot find this link etc etc)
I should have added the initial sign up log as well, because that would show that barely 50% succedded at sign up, then with a further 80% failing at submission I was left with an overall 90% failure rate.
SENuke is currently not a lot better, A year ago it was a very good tool (not withstanding the limitations of profile etc) but it has slipped faster than Nick Clegg’s popularity rating and manages barely 50% overall success at the moment – tellingly it’s the high PR sites that fail with the greatest frequency (because they change the on site procedures more often to detract spammers probably)
My advice. Make web2 structures yourself if you want to avoid expensive fees for semi maintained software that produces barely acceptable sites.
Does anyone want to add to that?
What is the experience of WEB2.0 creation tools now?
Am I alone in seeing a huge failure and deletion rate?
Even Nuke (which was the best until a few months ago) suffers from issues now.
I know I mentioned it above, but to my mind the biggest failing is caused by the shoddy profiles created during the initial sign up processes.
THe bare minimum is done. 3/4 of the profiles on WEB2.0 places that Nuke signs up for are left blank.
Think about it..if you really WERE interested in writing a blog about
“The Benefits of a a new flea collar” or whatever..wouldn’t you fill in some other stuff? Put in a photo, fill in the “about you” field”?..In other words show some darn interest in what you claim to be interested in.
Wouldn’t you post regularly, and not just once or twice in a “sales copy”kind of way?
I have seen web2.0 structures built with bots being pulled down left/right and centre over the past 3-4 months. I am sure this is because they leave this huge “half filled” footprint wherever they stomp.
And even Nuke has started to suffer terribly over the past 16-20 weeks on the basic stuff. The success rate (even with the half filled profiles) is getting lower and lower as I suspect the devs are concentrating on NukeX most of the time.
Not sure if their is an answer to this in terms of a 3rd party piece of software, but I am pretty certain we are at the beginning of the end as far as this generation of WEB2.0 site bots are concerned.
THe sites have got too slick. Wordpress.com changes it’s version about every 3 days now. Squidoo doesn’t notify the change but seems to alter about every three days as well. Even hubpages alters the sign on and submit scripts once a fortnight at the most (just subtlely – just enough to cock up a bot)
I reckon the changes are now automated.
Every 4 days this box will change name from “%name%” to” %#name%” then “%username%” then….
I think the anti bot programming is probably automated now – at least for the major sites (i.e the ones you really want) When they update they add programming that will change the position and element name every 72 hours in a subtle way automatically.
They also seem to delete sites after about 60-90 days with half filled profiles or single spammy content.
All VERY simple stuff to implement by them. Only suprise is it’s taken them so long to get around to it.
Paul, great points here, it’s basically the main reason why I can’t condone spending 147/month for SE Nuke , since 1/2 if not more of your stuff created on web 2.0s gets deleted after a while.
And Rank Builder by Goad, think they’re gonna keep up with things?
Or people making one-time fee bots, with unlimited lifetime support, are they gonna update their bots and software every 3 days, 2 weeks, once a month?
SEO LinkRobot, one time fee, bad business decision there to make it a one time fee when these things are programming quagmires, Waterloos, Vietnams, Afghanistan, whatever….
What’s good about SE Nuke is they’re updating their code frequently since they have a large customer base paying a lot of money, but all I know is that
I have 89% of my Web 2.0s that I created manually still standing,
and about 1/3 of the bot created ones still standing at last check.
That’s more or less exactly my experience as well. 30% left.
I’m sure it’s the bots lack of complete profile that leaves a footprint.
Of course, the more complete the profile needs to be, the more elements need to be programmed into the bot – and the more it will cost, and the more likely it is to fall over with so many more elements and forms to get right each time it runs.
The “30% left” is the main reason I like low Competition (ie, easy to dominate) terms to rank for.
By the time my back links start to “go away”, I’ll have some longevity for my Domain and be ranked mainly for on-site SEO.
Jim >
and …
… “HAPPY THANKSGIVING!”
……. to All
I’m surprised no one mentioned Magic Submitter.
I’m not – check out my last run on the useless thing.
http://www.yourmetalife.com/?p=229
A terrible mess of software where the developer adds more and more features but doesn’t keep the core up to date.
You have the ability to program it to sign up and submit to sites (great) but in practice, it’s database is so poorly maintained that you spend more time fisxing the sign up and submission bit than you do actually signing up and submitting anything.
Even the major sites, squidoo, wordpress, livejournal, wiwkispaces etc fail almost daily – the answer on the forum when you raise it is;
“Well you can fix it yourself, so what are you moaning about”
For a one off putchase product this may be an ok attitude, but for a subscrition based solution it stinks.
My advice, if you want to spend 60% of your time fixing and reprogramming a bot – then this tool is for you.
If you would rather be creating or submitting content leave it well alone.
Also – as of farmer – the sites it creates( which lack full bio’s photo’s/template changes etc etc) are very poor at transferring any link juice anyway. (they were getting worse anyway – but farmer just about kicked these one/two post link sites into touch)
And SenukeX lol – that’s probably vapourware by now. I read “review” of it 1 year ago today (10th March 2010) “Coming the middle of the year” it said (the year being 2010) then Autumn, the New year, then first quarter 2011 now…..
And no I don’t mean vanilla Nuke – I mean NukeX
Given the clamp-down on poorly designed micro WEB2 sites – it was probably a waste of time getting it anyway.
Paul
I am giving magic submitter a try. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it and you can add your own sites easily, whether its a blog comment, forum, etc.. I think this feature is a real game changer. It may take 5 minutes to add a site, but think about being able to add sites that have not been spammed to death, or are directly related to your niche. That’s powerful. Plus they update as much or more than senuke.
With SENuke, the UI is not designed well. Its just not user friendly.
Would appreciate a review on Magic Submitter.
Thanks
I’ve been testing Magic submitter and SE nuke and both are just OK, I have developed a formula where I build Sqidoo’s and Blogspots that link to my money site.
I want to do the following and was wondering If you guru’s can suggest tools for each of my tasks:
- Sqidoo’s and Blogspot’s = Manual Creation ?
- Other Standard Web 2.0 linking to Sqidoo’s = Magic Submitter ?
- Social Bookmarking for Sqidoo’s and Blogspot’s = Bookmarking Demon ?
- Forum profiles for Sqidoo’s and Blogspots’s = Dripfeed blasts ?
- 2000 Article Submissions for Money site = Aritcle Marketing Robot ?
- Indexing and Pinging = Scrapebox rapid indexer ?
I think it’s best to use a different tool for each job which also make your link building technique unique and (hopefully) outrank the competition.
Thanks,
Mytechguru
Hey Marlon, good questions here…
I want to do the following and was wondering If you guru’s can suggest tools for each of my tasks:
- Sqidoo’s and Blogspot’s = Manual Creation ?
- Other Standard Web 2.0 linking to Sqidoo’s = Magic Submitter ?
- Social Bookmarking for Sqidoo’s and Blogspot’s = Bookmarking Demon ?
- Forum profiles for Sqidoo’s and Blogspots’s = Dripfeed blasts ?
- 2000 Article Submissions for Money site = Aritcle Marketing Robot ?
- Indexing and Pinging = Scrapebox rapid indexer ?
Oh, one more point… I think I read somewhere that Magic can help with Backlink energizer account creations, for the needed clusters, so you might want to look into that
RE: What’s the goal here? To rank the lenses? To rank them for long tails? Or merely to get them indexed and send some links to them to get some link juice behind them?
We Don’t want to rank lenses and Hub Pages we just want to hype them up in order to give juice to the money site I like to call Sqidoo’s and Hub Pages “Octaine Web 2.0′s” as I can see Google gives them more love than a standard seb 2.0 entity.
I ‘m going try try and build a 50 site Web 2.0 Wheel around the “Octaine” Squidoo’s and Hubpages then maybe send some Profile spammy links to them. Sould I use DFB or Sick submitter (which I really like) for profile links? Also what tool\tools would you use to build the Web 2.0 Profiles out? I want to submit 5 spun articles to each standard Web 2.0 sites to build some authority towards my Sqidoo’s and Hub Pages in order to power the money site to postion #1 for a competitive keyword.
Regards,
Mytechguru
Whatever you do, do not send profile links to squidoo pages, I’ve done this twice and in both instances Squidoo shut down the page.
I’ve had the same thing done to me with a hub, so I agree, but I also know that you can get away with some under-the-radar profile linking to these types of entities.
Cheers for the tips guys, I’ve just been looking at Sick as cheaper alternative to DFB what do you think? Also Just about to Trial SEO Link Robot.
I am anxiously awaiting your evaluation of SENuke-x. I hope your back and full of energy now that you have completed your marathon. What was your time?
“anon April 20, 2011 at 12:33 am
Whatever you do, do not send profile links to squidoo pages, I’ve done this twice and in both instances Squidoo shut down the page.”
Great catch – I’ve noticed this. Adding links to a Squidoo, Tumblr or Wordpress page seems fine – but as soon as you backlink them they seem to close them down. “Anti structure” site removal AND an open invitation for negative linking practices to destroy competitors Tier one linking sites.
When did Squidoo start closing down lenses that you build backlinks to?
Since ages ago, back when I made the comment in April 2011. I didn’t test for all types of backlinks. But everytime I used profile links, they’d find out and close the page down. Might be different now I haven’t tried since.
Yup, since back when, when mainstream profiles links services were all the rage
What type of backlinks can I build to a squidoo lens without getting it shutdown? Can I build social bookmarks, web 2.0 contextual links, or document sharing site links to a squidoo lens without getting it shutdown?
Cross link to lenses from other lenses, mass distribution article marketing links, but higher quality article links should be direct links.
Mix up link types to lenses, which should be considered as 1 tier/level away from “money site”