I recently updated the top rated link building services page, but figured I’d give an explanation on why the ratings changed.
Linkvana was good for a really long time, but there’s better value to be had nowadays, with services like Backlink Solutions, Build My Rank and Article Ranks providing similar, sometimes even superior results and service.
I haven’t updated my Article Ranks and Build My Rank reviews yet but they’re recommended by me, why?
Article Ranks- Phase 2/Month 2 testing with Article Ranks has proven good results, and I’m just waiting for a full 60 days of testing to be complete before I reveal exactly WHY it’s a decent service,replete with urls, kws, positions before and after etc…
Testing AR for 60 days plus will help give me/us a better gauge on exactly what kind of power it wields.
For example: Is it good for direct traffic, or for boosting SERPs, or both, and for what kind of competition levels?
Can it get a top 3 ranking by itself? If so, for what kind of keywords and phrases?
Stuff like that…I can’t recommend something because it took a page 3 ranked url and pushed it to the top of page 2, capishe? That’s what other reviewers do they skew their tests to present “evidence” that a service works, but getting
doggroomingclippers.com to page 2 for keyphrase dog grooming clippers isn’t exactly hard to do….
Build My Rank - Their network is FAR superior to Linkvana’s which makes BMR a better alternative, at least pricing wise. BMR also recently incorporated some user-requested features to make it a better interface/option /tool for its users, which they’ve done.
You might want to read the Build My Rank Case study here to see how things are currently progressing
Back to LinkVana and why it’s no longer recommended….
Everyone’s into the buying aged domains with Page Rank now/still, and there’s plenty of sites and services (BMR< AR< BLS, ALN etc…)building networks on par with or superior to LinkVana.
As far as I can tell, Linkvana doesn’t do anything to help their links to you remain indexed, therefore they’re not competing with the rest of the mini-industry any more, they’re not competitive.
Edit August 12, 2010: From Linkvana
” LinkVana has introduced a new social bookmarking feature that allows LinkVana users to submit their content to a variety of social bookmarking platforms, thereby building out an even more diverse backlink profile. “
My note: for $147.00 they should do this for its users, like the better value competing services do (BMR, BLS etc…)
Does using Linkvana still have an effect on things, rankings-wise, SEO-wise? Yes, there’s just so many better ways to spend $147.00/month for ZERO links, because $147.00/month is just the membership fee, you still need to write 1-100 word snippet that’s deemed 100% unique in order to get one backlink from one of their sites.
Back in the day, this worked fine because their links generated by us, its user base were getting indexed solidly, but lots of reports lately on these backlinks becoming de-indexed.
The best way to get a self-generated backlink indexed is to link to it form indexed entities, via social bookmarking, pliggs, scuttles, BIE, BLE etc… Read more about How To Get Backlinks Indexed here
Kinda sucks that I picked linkvanareviews.com for this site’s domain name then eh?
I got a new site in the works that has a more generic sounding domain name and I will be moving all content over to that site by the end of the year
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It’s official. It’s now ironic, the site I mean.
Do you know why Dave has introduced Social Bookmarking, I remember him disliking SB.
Hello again Elbert, sorry for delay in my reply, I just got back from a week’s vacation.
Not sure why Dave introduced Social bookmarking but the HISTORY of automated social bookmarking programs has been that accounts get deleted quite a bit and there’s a constnat upkeep required to do any type of ongoing automated social bookmarking due to the need fo rmore and more account creations needed, due to the aforementioned account deletions.
Also, it seems like every year more and more of these social bookmarking sites turn to a NOfollow attribute, which means new entities are the ones that give DOfollow links, but since they’re new entities they don’t have much rank or search engine trust yet. I think it’s best to use BMD (Bookmarking Demon) to stay on top of the account creation for DoFollow social bookmarking entities.
Thanks,
Dan
Don’t you think it would be cool for BMR guys to start their own private network of SB sites that will be exclusively used to bookmark the the posts inside their BMR system/made by us, their clients, without being worried of accounts getting deleted, etc.
Hey Dan,
Can you test the NPP ?
thank you in advance.
Hey buddy, I am trying to get around to this. I got hooked up with thei routsourcing solution which wanted $45.00/highly spun lengthy articles submitted thru their network, but that’s a very unrealistic price to charge for an article spin/write so I’m still looking for a way to test this without killing myself
I have a account of NPP,
You can just email your spin aritlce to me , I will drop the article to the network.
hope help.
thank you
…who the hell are you? Unless your name is also Elbert.
Thanks for your post Dan.
So what do you suggest instead of LinkVana? Should we simply drop it or should we try to improve it? I think that their service would become quite decent if they would combine and automate posting + social bookmarking (as you say). So maybe we should make this post a little bit more famous and get the attention of LV admins?
They could start a network of pligg/scuttle sites of their own and use it for bookmarking user posts or they could just create accounts at all major SB sites.
If they care about their business they might go for it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Like my post suggests…drop it and move on to services that try harder.
Kinda like that old car rental company Avis, I think it was, “we’re #2 because we try harder” therefore “lesser” services may end up with more people happier with their services, and BMR seems like they’re trying harder if you catch my drift there…. I will do some more testing with BMR VERY shortly
Having used and got booted from linkvana the service is good, but as Daniel pointed out, its a significant investment before you get any links.. the whole service including the social bookmarking is geared to get as much money from you as possible.
They also do this layered structured where the longer you stay with them the more sites you get accessed to. In reality I have found that each month for any given category you will get access to 3 or maybe 4 new sites.
The ONLY way to make money form linkvana is to have a an automated stragedy hitting different categories for your web 2.0 sites. But linkvana do not like automation and never will because they make too much money for 2 dollars per blurb…
I still like the system, but indexing issues and lack of sites (dosent matter what they say…) means its a service that should be used for a specific purpose, and only if you have some cash to burn..
Good points here Moon, btw their social bookmarking service isn’t for their network but for your money sites, which BLS does for you automatically anyways, so yea, it’s another cash cow for them (LV) it seems, since there’s no reason why they can’t just add this feature in as part of its hefty monthly fee
I haven’t used linkvana but it’s mainly because ever since I got interested in these networks build my ranks has been out and seems so much better for the price.
Linkvana must make quite a bit of $$$ if people actually use the $2 per 100 word blurb (vastly overpriced, I can get content that will pass any duplicate system for 50 cents per 100 word. I doubt linkvana does not either)
There is also a new service advertising appearing in the Adwords section of Google search, for the keyword “linkvana” They are wejustlink.com seems like a spin off of BMR, but they don’t seem to offer any free trials.
Hi Michael, just for the record that’s no spinoff of ours. First I’ve heard of these guys myself. From their material seems like a fairly small network.
John
Their network is pretty small, and unless they’re doing BLS like stuff to your submissions and destination urls, I’d shy away from using it
Because I’m always curious, I signed up for an account at wejustlink.com. The interface looked just like ours – I guess I should be flattered. That’s where the similarities end.
Talk about false advertising though. I added 1 post and it’s sitting on a domain with just 1 backlink and PR0.
I emailed you, contact me via skype and let’s discuss how we can test your service again using your writers or outsourcing options. Skype’s free, we don’t need to voice chat, we can save the conversations for later reading etc….
Thanks for your feedback (I represent WeJustLink). wejustlink.com is new to this game, but the developers are not new to web development and SEO. We’ve used a number of networks ourselves in the past and wanted to create something for ourselves and our clients, and have opened up a public network just recently in the last few weeks (wejustlink.com). Our business model is wrapped around staying small. We want a handful of members that we can take care of very well – that’s it.
We have PR0 to PR6 blogs on our network, and our focus is on speed of indexing and also a LOW velocity of articles being published on any given blog on our network. We’ve used linkvana and were staggered at the over-subscription to this service. A typical blog will have 30 posts made to it on any given day. This in turn meant our articles were quickly buried beneath an onslaught of newer articles. Result? Yes, quick indexing – BUT our articles were getting DEINDEXED days later. We were treading water. And so we wanted to create a “low velocity” network. A quiet network, if you like. One that gets your articles indexed and they STAY indexed – a network which keeps any given article on a home page of any given blog for at least 2 weeks (key point). We actually hand design each blog and give each one a unique look too (for what it’s worth).
We know social bookmarking helps indexing, and we automate this for posts as you’ve no doubt seen. We also build natural links to our blogs too. We’re new so we’re FAR from perfect, and a little rough around the edges, and your criticism is welcome. However, I can also tell you that we are enthusiasts and our network will only improve over time. We certainly will never allow for over-subscription to our network and we are working hard on indexing rates.
Anyway, I really appreciate your feedback. The internet is certainly big enough for a number of us service providers, and I think it’s good to give people a choice of services to build links from, because if anything, there’s a real LACK of decent services out there (and I count BMR in the small clique of decent services). We hope to carve a small niche for ourselves over time and take care of our own small membership, that’s all. We don’t want to disturb your business or any other network out there.
I know as an SEO myself I use several services and I find they complement each other overall.
Thanks for stopping by WJL!
Skype me if you want me to review your service, I emailed you my Skype ID.
Thanks,
Dan
WEJUSTLINK,
How nice that you stopped by.
By reading the post and comments on this page you probably already know what most of us want.
Make it happen and you’ll certainly get more subscribers to your service.
Thanks
So do you guys recommend getting rid of LinkVana?
I was planning to use both networks just for link diversity.
We need more info.
Thanks.
ION, link diversity comes more from acquiring different link types (social, profiles, blogs, html) than using different networks to gain IP diversity.
LinkVana is all blogs, UAW is more than one type of link and more varied IP diversity, BMR is mostly blogs I think, LinxBoss is a mix, plus has IP diversity etc….
LoL..
Look what you’ve done Dan
Now I canceled my subscription to LinkVana and moved into BuildMyRank!
Dan
What’s the alternative then? BLS? BLS went down once and I don’t want to take that risk again.
Linxboss is looking better and better each day, but the quality of the sites is a bit off-putting.
I just joined Blog Blueprint, they seem ok but…. I went to a site of theirs, they published 72 posts yesterday. All with OBLs. Yep.
Their network ain’t gonna last long, I guess it’s Linxboss here I come.
Do you really think BLS is worth it? I might give that a shot next.
I think the alternative is BuildMyRank… at least at the moment.
I was a member of LinkVana until yesterday. The price is too high (not because I can not afford it, but because it is simply too high, especially when so many new service appear nowadays).
They either have to face the competition and lower the price + implement those auto social bookmarking features or they loose.
Ion, you’re correct… LinkVana does seem to be creating their own reality here; they charge a lot and it still works to some degree and people keep buying it, so it must be the right pricing model eh?
I think LinxBoss is a better alternative to BLS merely because there’s zero writing and almost a ZERO learning curve. If you look too deep into your inbound link profile, my guess is you’ll not like the quality of many of the sites linking to you.
Blog Blueprint works OK, still but it’s getting hammered and in my opinion will soon become defunct, and devoid of any value or effectiveness, which is why I haven’t linked to a sign up url for it , because I see where this network is headed with 72 posts/day per site for a 400 site network rotating sites in and out of their network…
That’s why LB should be used on those sites that already have a pretty serious link profile and a bunch of quality authority links. I guess it’s a matter of quantity when plugging in LB.
Ion, I use LinxBoss for new ish and older sites, the effects have been the same; gradual increase in SERPs, as I would expect, considering the competitiveness or lack thereof for the respective sites. I love using it for new sites that need to establish some sor to flink velocity before I get too impatient in a few months and wanna blast links to them, but in a few months time these sites will have a linking history and age, so I can either;
1- leave site in Linxboss and add more urls to get linked up
2- blast the site with some articles links or xrumer blasts or whatever, then take that site out and enter in a new one to age and establish linking history for
That’s a cool tactic you got there.
Thanks for the tips Dan.
Cheers.
Hi Ion
I spent some time looking up why Dan doesn’t recommend BMR – apparantly the site doesn’t really help your rankings much, he goes into details in the comments of the BMR post, so I’m giving it a miss for now.
I’ve joined the “waiting list” of BLS – hope they contact me soon
Ash have you tried BMR yourself? Even Dan would tell you that his test is far from conclusive.
We’ve got too many users reporting positive results not to at least take the free trial for a spin.
Hi Ash,
A blog n3twork is a blog n3twork, aged domains with pr are aged domains with pr, contextual links are contextual links, snippets are snippets and posting is posting.
Indexing is an issue so if you don’t do link stacking (sending links to your links) the chance of them not getting indexed at all or getting de-indexed in the long run EXISTS.
The price tag and the social bookmarking feature makes the difference. Everyone who is into SEO knows that using only one single service of this kind is tricky. So you have to combine, experiment, diversify and hide your links
I’m always eager to join services that talk to their clients, consider implementing new features and constantly update their database of sites. I’m not saying unsubscribe there, join that; just made a logic comparison and decided to go for BMR.
Let’s hear what Dan has to say.
Thanks.
@ BMR
Why did the price jump to $130 after the initial early stages?
What is now making LinkVana look silly is mostly the price and to a lesser degree the effort it takes to create content.
Is there a possibility you will include a starter pack for the “working class” where for example there is $59 but only 100 posts are allowed and only one niche.
A typical blog/site owner really only has 1 or 2 niche(s) that he is focused on. So paying for only what is needed is the ideal customer attraction.
BMR has a very good opportunity in getting right what Linkvana seems to be stubborn about. And what better way to dominate the market by providing a “starter pack” for the masses.
Hi Jose, you can still subscribe for $59/mo right now. Shoot me an email thru the site with your username if you are having trouble.
How many backlinks are allowed per day to a web2.0 property? BMR allows 10 bl per day per domain. I tried to use your (BMR) contact form but it doesn’t seem to be working…. (Sorry to go a bit off topic Dan)
Has anyone here used Linkvana and see any results? There are plenty of mix reviews from other places.
What about their social bookmarking service? For 100 SB/$40, it must be something special.
Hi Daniel,
I agree with you about LinkVana. I was a member there but I withdrew. It is not only the $147/Mo membership fees, but the cost really escalates when you want to submit an X amount of 100-words posts per month.
For a 1000 backlinks per month, you end up spending around $1500/Mo on outsourcing the content writing.
I have very recently joined another service, http://www.backlinksninja.com/. It also costs $147/Mo but there are no additional costs involved.
They give you 1000 backlinks per month for 5 top level domains.
I would really appreciate if you could study this system and write a detailed review as to whether it is worthwhile continuing in this membership or not.
Thanks
Raj
Hi VK, like the other commenter mentioned, BacklinksNinja is same thing as LinxBoss. So my LinxBoss reviews can be considered “Ninja” reviews, too ok?
LB continues to amaze me more often than it disappoints me, sometimes it skyrockets a url for a certain term in a real short period of time, sometimes it takes what seems like forever to move another term up, go figure
It’s been 2 months since I joined LB(Thanks Daniel) and I’m very pleased. Some of my keywords were 600+ and now at 4. Some were on page 2-3 and now on page 1 climbing slowly to #1.
Yes, I still continued to create backlinks to my sites since L4L would help with that too. That was a genius move on their part and others services should do that. Promote the backlinks automatically.
Okay, it’s not cheap but with patience or should I say with less needed patience, your site will climb just faster in ranks.
Steve, thanks for the feedback, and no it’s not the cheapest way to do things but pretty effective for a totally hands-off solution
Hi Daniel,
Thanks a lot for your comment. After your reply, I found out / realized that BackLinksNinja is actually same as LB as they are, I think, a private label service / reseller of LB.
Because the videos in BLN are all LB videos.
Secondly, I would like to know if there is any post in your blog which explains how to do a systematic link building exercise for the maximum benefit of SERP increase.
I want to get into the link building exercise more seriously now and also understand the system better.
Thanks
Raj
Oh, backlinksninja, is a private label of linxboss i think. Someone correct me if i’m wrong.
For now though I use.
Seolinkvine
articleranks
linkracer
nichepressplatinum
backlinksolutions
linxboss
and buildmyrank.
uniquearticlewizard too
Yeah, it’s a lot of money, but worth it in my rankings.
After unsubscribing I got a few emails from the SEO guys at LinkVana.
Here is what they have to say.
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Hi Ion,
My name is Alex and I am one of the SEO specialists here at Linkvana – Jack forwarded your email string onto me.
First off, let me say thanks for getting back to us with this. I guess that while our users currently see good results and most see improvements in the SERPs, from what I see from linkvanareviews.com is that we’re not worth the $147 pricetag because there are a lot of folks out there who offer cheaper services and it’s hard to differentiate what we do vs what they do.
It’s true that there are indeed a handful of services out there that can help deliver results, and we occasionally recommend them to people. However, we haven’t really done a good job of communicating and getting the word out about the recent changes and upgrades, and frankly, why our service is different and better. That’s no one’s fault but our own. As Jack mentioned in his email below, the best ideas come from folks that occasionally decide to leave us. We’re kind of lucky in a way because we have a community of users (like the ones at linkvanareviews.com and the warrior forum) who are very vocal about what they want in a service like ours, and what they’d like to see improved.
Truth be told, some of the best ideas for how to improve the power of the Linkvana system came from our users. Sometimes it comes in the form of a beta launch of a new feature (social bookmarking), or a tweak, and sometimes is comes in the form of a major upgrade to the system. It’s actually been awhile since we’ve had a major upgrade to the system because we’ve been working on improving some behind the scenes stuff. But, we’ve been quietly working behind the scenes to roll out a pretty major upgrade to the system. It includes some new features that will make things easier, and it also has some stuff that we think will lead to some powerful results for our users.
A few of those things are a new way to increase the promotion of our Linkvana blogs to further boost post indexing and domain authority, we already have our blogs on many different ip’s, but we’re adding another segment of blogs to increase capacity even further because we’ve got some power users that are needing that kind of thing, we’re adding a centralized dashboard reporting/tracking for each of your sites and tying them to your links. (not a major thing, but pretty darned useful when you’ve got a ton of sites to manage.) We’re also adding a ‘comments’ feature that uses our community of writers to outsource permanent high PR links on a variety of authority sites on specific high PR pages. (We’re pretty proud of this one). We’re adding in an new section of niched sites for our articles, which is pretty powerful for link variety. We’ve got a few other things we’re adding , but they have less to do with new features/options, and more to do with improving the speed of indexation, etc which includes the ability to add comments to individual user posts which will great increase the indexing of our sites as well as some other additions.
Anyway, our hope is that our users will like them and see consistent, improved results. Please feel free to add this reply to the discussion at linkvanareviews.com if you’d like to do so – We work hard to keep Linkvana delivering results, and frankly it costs us quite a bit of money on the testing and development side of things, but it’s kind of a pride thing for us to be good at what we do. We know we’re going to fail every now and then, but the goal is to really keep investing in our network so people will see continually see solid, measurable results. It’d be great to get your feedback on the new system too. It’ll be about a month out yet, but shoot me an email and I’ll hook you up with a free account and some free credits so you can let us know what you think.
Thanks a lot Ion,
Alex
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I still think that Linkvana is ahead in link building I am into this industry since 1999 and vote for them
Hi John, thanks for the feedback.
What else have you tried aside from Linkvana to compare with/to Linkvana?
Hi Dan
I’m into my 5th month with LB and i concur totally with your view that some sites show great improvement and others are painfully slow in their progress.I am still struggling to make the judgement to take the non performers out and use the slot for other sites as i constantly think they must be on the verge of a breakthrough but 5months is probably long enough to give them a chance. Regarding L4L is my understanding correct that this is done for us rather than requiring us to send links to our links. We just set up long tail anchors and LB create the L4L’s ?? I ask you because Erik seemed a bit vague in his reply to my question.
A couple of other questions for you, Dan, have you taken a site out of LB and monitored it’s effect ie does it hold it’s rankings without that steady link velocity it was receiving? Do you think the LB links will remain indexed long term? I know YSE is becoming pretty poor a giving a good link profile but i am finding that it is only recognising a handful of LB links after several months of LB input yet the ranking performance on average is good. Keep up the good work sir, good overview on Rank builder on WF, great potential but i have just spent a 10 hour session banging my head against the wall trying to get a song out of it.
Look forward to your further feedback on LB and RB !!
L4L will get the links that are… indexed. I had a site(2 months now) that had no links in L4L because my backlinks were not indexed thus not found by L4L. It’s normal if they can’t be found. To help, I add those known backlink myelf now because the site that worked very well for me had a few found by L4L already. If you have an ezinearticles done, add it. It’s a little more work but does give a push.
Yes, 5 months is too much I think too. I’m going for the 1-3 months rotation depending on the competition. Some will need 1 month in the new batch since not much competition/search for the keywords while other might take 3+ months. Add L4L to the mix, it’s much faster and make a slot available sooner.
Yes, that’s what I’m so glad that I’m getting feedback form readers here, because sometimes I’ll have like 5-8 new site sin LB and they do nothing, but sometimes I will have a tougher term in for a week and it starts moving right away, drives me nuts, so I’m glad to hear that this isn’t unusual, and that it’s still working for a lot of people.
Yes, sites that get their urls out of the system maintain rankings, since I suspect that more of the backlinks are found over time.
L4L,still wrapping my head around it
Out of my 24 slot(20 about 2-3 weeks in), most gained and some got from 400+ more in 2-3 weeks to the first/second page. Now, one did the opposite going from a 37 to 457. It must be a Ying and Yang thing to compensate for the others lollll This one has no L4L in it for now. I’m working on it for the next weekly update.
But the thing to remember is most are on page 1(#5-10) or near it(#11-14). I will continue to add my new backlinks in L4L.
Forgot to mentioned that the position is calculate depending if you see ads above them or a secondary link(indented) from the same site.
And since I’m in very niche marketing., my search are often in the 6000 search a month. I have a few with less than 1000 search a month. Those will be quicker to get to the top.
Thanks Steve and Dan for your feedback, concentrating on linking deeper into a site so L4L can work more leverage is a cool tip. Thanks.
Would be great if David could do a closer look and review of wejustlink.
Dunno who David is, but Dan has already contacted wejustlink and they’ll be getting back to him in a bit, once their network grows…
Just found this post Dan and totally agree I have been a long time user of LV and over the last 6 months I have noticed that only about 30% of links get indexed, which makes the cost of the ones that do get indexed way too expensive to stick with the service.
I have spoken to them about things they could do but aren’t open to it, they wanted me to stay on as a customer even after admiting it was a problem that they don’t want to fix… Right!
love the blog keep up the good work!
Hello,
I am using both linkvana and buildmyrank since 4 weeks now.
Here is what I have found on indexing.
Linkvana articles { more than posts} gets indexed {and stay indexed} very same day.
Buildmyrank posts are getting really difficult to get indexed.
Its just a 3-4 week test but linkvana surely is better in indexing then BMR.
Any similar results. Which one to quit since I want to go ahead with only one of them.
thanks
I’m currently testing both also. (just started with LV – even though it’s not recommended here anymore, thought I’d give it a try as it seems as though price as opposed to quality is what made it lose it’s ‘recommended’ status.)
So far LV is interesting…the posts that have gone live were indexed in literally hours! Less than 24 hours for sure. I search for a snippet in Google and it’s there less than a day later.
Now THAT is very impressive considering they don’t go to the extra lengths BMR, for example, go through. i.e. RSS, Bookmarking etc…
However, I noticed THIRTY blog posts being submitted per day on the blogs my posts were on. A bit alarming (seems a lot), but as long as it’s capped to that figure maybe it’s not so bad. Again, 30 does seem a lot though!
The BMR network is very good, and I haven’t noticed anything like 30 posts a day being submitted to their blogs. It might happen, but for the many posts I’ve checked it hasn’t. This means your posts stay on the front page for longer. (The LV posts I mentioned that got indexed ‘straight away’, moved to the 2nd page of it’s respective blog just as quick!)
I think if you can afford both, then perhaps go for it as it offers greater IP diversity…
If you don’t write your own posts and outsource either to the network themselves or a writer you employ, if you’re submitting more than 200 blog posts per month, the overall cost of the service is VERY similar (literally a few dollars), before eventually becoming cheaper on Linkvana, the more posts you submit…especially when you start considering things from a ‘Cost-per-Link’ perspecitve!
J, thanks for the input here… I see you already have a review site up for LinkVana 2.0.
Have you tested this yet, I thought it just came out?
I saw their affiliate manager looking for beta testers to help with this launch/re-launch /new service….
I’d be glad to hire you and your writers to test this out for us.
Thanks,
Dan
Hi Dan,
Still in the process of testing it, but so far so good. The official re-launch is tomorrow I believe. (don’t think that’s changed, although I still don’t have access to the full-set of features, like the new blog commenting feature they’re adding.)
[QUOTE]I’d be glad to hire you and your writers to test this out for us. [/QUOTE]
Sure, that would be great as you’re probably in a better position to compare 2.0 to the previous version, as I never really had an opportunity to truly experience the older system. Feel free to contact me at my email address. I’d be happy to offer you my main bonus package regardless of if you sign up through my link or not.
Regards,
J
Is the network for LV any different than 1?
Reason I ask is had an old client come back to me after the farmer update and said “what happened to all my traffic?” I had a look and the day of the update he dropped out of the SERPs totally and hasn’t come back.
I looked in my records and the only link building we ever did on this site was linkvana links, so it shows the old way that LV did things is a waste of time and money.
I can send screen shots if you want.
Hey Daniel,
I’ve finally got round to finishing a piece I was meant to write ages ago. I thought you and your readers might be interested in reading it too. It’s nothing special, just a bit of food-for-thought!
You can read it here: http://www.linkvana2.info/linkvana-is-cheaper-than-you-think/
Hope your marathon training is going well! I’ve noticed not many updates with the site lately, so I guess that’s taking up a lot of your time…
Cheers!
J
Hey J, thanks for the article and wishes…
I’ll not be updating this site until the end of April, trying to stay focused on this race, but also trying to wean myself off of blogging for a bit to think more about the larger picture of the SEO landscape, where links REALLY fit in now, and trying to ascertain best site promotion methods (for ranking and organic traffic).
One thing I feel compelled to research deeply is how the blog farm links actually help, are they all the same PR0 urls linking in, but not bringing traffic, if so then BMR, SEO LV ArticleRanks etc… yes they all bring in some credited links but can you achieved desired results just by paying for outsourced linking in this manner?
What else needs to be done to accommodate this ONE kind of link (blog farm links)? How to supplement them, ensure they remain indexed, find out where they are, how to boost them in best manner possible…
It seems to me that low quality link building is a numbers game and if you’re competing against other low quality link builders for similar terms, then it’s a battle of budgets and low-level-linking prowess… My point is… where do these kind of links really fit in in regard to the overall rankings game. I think the days are over, or soon to be over whereby you can rank in competitive niches with JUST these kinds of links, and if this holds to be true, then are these standalone link volume links or actually quality links that don’t need any further helps from us to rank the destination sites?
I think I’m being repetitive here, sorry… maybe some of what I’m trying to say is clear?
Good luck Dan,
keep your eye on the prize
Thanks Sam
Hey Dan,
I would like to see if you can do another Linkvana review. Mostly because of the relaunching of LV 2.0, and all. Maybe try out their Linkitpro service, and see if their $149 directory submission to 5000 sites is really worth it. Also, I got an email they also relaunch Linkumate, with reduced prices and upgrades.
I’m going to go try out Linkumate on my own.
I had some stuff put through LV2.0 it wasn’t bad at first, was actually pretty good, but then its effects wore off maybe because this “new link source”, so to speak… got old quickly. I see it going the way of LV 1.0.
LinkuMate is something I feel good about trying, especially for a dozen or so EMDs that got adsense slapped, should be pretty easy to rank them on just Bing according to Kelley’s videos on LinkuMate
I decided to give wejustlink a try and the results have been very disappointing. The average page rank claimed by WJL is 2.44 – my experience after 17 posts is an average of 0.47 PR score.
I sent a support request and emailed the company direct. As I have not received a reply I have now requested a refund and have asked them to close my account.
Did LinkVana survive Panda 3.3? I’m getting a lot of mixed info on this.